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Here's Elon Musk explaining why we'll have to move AI to deep space. “I see a path to Starship cost-per-ton-to-orbit being lower than air flight. That opens up a very wide range of possibilities. The most obvious one I think is actually solar-powered AI satellites. So, to move the... AI to orbit and essentially deep space over time, because you can actually access over a billion times more energy from the sun in deep space than you can on Earth. To scale to Kardashev, to make any progress on a Kardashev 2 scale, which is using some non-trivial amount of energy from the sun, you kind of have to do space solar power. You could only beam a tiny amount of that back to Earth or you would melt Earth. Earth actually receives a very, very tiny amount of the sun's energy. I mean, Earth is a tiny dust mote. Earth, to scale with the sun, we look like a little crumb. So, to scale civilization, to be at all relevant on a Kardashev 2 scale, like to even use a millionth of a percent of the Sun's energy, you really have to have your solar power in deep space.” Tesla Shareholder Meeting, November 6, 2025show more

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Elon Musk reveals the vision he's most excited to see in his lifetime "Earth only receives about half a billionth of the Sun's energy. The Sun is essentially all the energy" "If you wanted to harness a millionth of the sun's energy, that would be about 100,000x more electricity than we currently generate on Earth for all of civilization" "The only way to scale is to go to space with solar. Launching from Earth, you can get to about a terawatt per year" "Beyond that, you want to launch from the moon. You want to have a mass driver on the moon" "With that mass driver on the moon, you could do probably a petawatt per year"

Elon Musk reveals the vision he's most excited to see in his lifetime "Earth only receives about half a billionth of the Sun's energy. The Sun is essentially all the energy" "If you wanted to harness a millionth of the sun's energy, that would be about 100,000x more electricity than we currently generate on Earth for all of civilization" "The only way to scale is to go to space with solar. Launching from Earth, you can get to about a terawatt per year" "Beyond that, you want to launch from the moon. You want to have a mass driver on the moon" "With that mass driver on the moon, you could do probably a petawatt per year"

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