How can you Explain Consciousness with math when consciousness created math?

By that logic, we could never explain consciousness or anything else, for that matter, since all our tools are made by consciousness. And when we finally do explain consciousness, it will obviously be through a tool created with consciousness. What kind of nonsense is this?

Math is not created. Numerals or the numbering system are created but not math.

I've never seen any scientist "not want to go there" as woo-woo peddlers often claim. Usually because they are pushing ideas that are contradicted by scientific facts and don't want to directly address that fact. Instead inventing a conspiracy for why their ideas aren't accepted.

Who is it talking? It‘s not Prof. Sagan .

“Science doesn’t tell us why the Big Bang happened, how the singularity occurred in the first place, or why it exploded when it did. It tells us there is objective scientific evidence that it occurred. So, what exactly was the Big Bang?” – Book III The Enigmatic Mystery

Carl Sagan would disagree with this, he believed in explaining the mind wholly in terms of the physical processes in the brain

Truth.

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It's like trying to define the artist with their painting. Free will, a product of consciousness, eludes prediction, challenging science's control. Power lies in predicting the future, but free will defies that, leaving science hesitant to explore beyond equations.

How can you NOT explain consciousness when consciousness created math.

Religion's power is in its projections of the past of God's free will, and not so much yours.