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"I don't think it was a debate." Eric Weinstein gives his take on Dave Smith's appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast opposite Douglas Murray. 📺 Piers Morgan | Dave Smith | | Douglas Murray
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@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray It wasn’t a debate It was Douglas Murray defending the elitist Very weird to be doing on a show that exists as opposition to elitism

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@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Bill Maher and Douglas Murray are the same type of people who hold biased views on the Middle East. They have zero valid views on why Israel is the only safe place in the Middle East

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Oh so no Eric Weinstein is now an expert on Israel - Hamas? 😂

Okay, Pierce—just one small correction at the very end. You said Trump’s idea for Gaza represents an ethnic cleansing we haven’t seen in modern times. But actually, we have seen such cases—in the Middle East and Africa. The most recent example is, of course, Assad’s Syria, which ethnically cleansed 5.5 million Sunni refugees and drastically altered the country’s demographics. (Not that it helped him in the end.)

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Yeah agreed, it was not a debate. Douglas singlehandedly decimated Dave and though Rogan was neutral, caught some of that firestorm.

There was no material debate. Neither brought any deep substance where they went down and did source scrutiny with one claim at a time. But Douglas Murray did give everyone the needed wakeup call that Dave Smith really doesn't have any material credibility. And if people want to get material credibility, they should look to people with the work product and good arguments, like:

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray It was obvious to everyone who watched that Dave wiped the floor with Douglas. 🤔🤣

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Eric Weinstein says “I’m not familiar with Dave’s work” 🤣

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray It was gatekeeping because neocons can’t win the debate. America First. No more interventionism for technocrat oligarchs and dialecticians.

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Piers, you let Dave Smith interrupt John Spenser too much & allowed him to prattle on too long while Eric Weinstein patiently waited like a pro. Dave's emotion-based take was already clear, whereas Eric's take was brilliant & more substantive/insightful yet you shorted him too.

It would’ve been better to have @benshapiro or @charliekirk11 debate because they are used to the gaslighting, cherry picking of facts and utter incoherence of argumentation that Dave does than @DouglasKMurray who has deep experience in conflicts and swims more in the deep end of the pool. I think Murray held his own against the scatterbrained launching of various slanders by smith as an Israel hater who shows minimal knowledge of the region but has absorbed the Jew hating propaganda well.

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray once again u didn't go down to Dave's level. use his gaza kids in rubble eg. & ask him if his kid is still held hostage in gaza now, what would he do?

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray I must say, Eric’s close on this seems to me to be almost precisely Murray’s position in ‘On Democracies and Death Cults’, and much of what he said on Rogan.

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray There you go. @EricRWeinstein is a real intellectual compared to @DouglasKMurray who is an IDF propagandist.

When someone like Douglas Murray listens more than he speaks, as he did while Dave dominated the conversation, you witness the brilliance of an expert allowing an overconfident novice to expose their own flaws. It was uncomfortable watching this debate. Dave clearly needs to read more and conduct proper research. Rogan asked Murray to stop interrupting Dave, yet Dave repeatedly interrupted Murray without reprimand. That’s when Murray strategically stepped back, letting Dave ramble despite his shaky grasp of the issues. As intellectuals often note, “When someone persists in defending a wrong point, let them talk and simply nod.” Rogan never called out Dave’s interruptions, which were blatant. People sided with Dave because they perceived Murray as arrogant—nothing more. If Murray had reacted emotionally, perhaps tearing up when Dave raised his voice, the audience would have sympathized with him instead. That’s basic human psychology at work. This wasn’t a debate!

Once again @ComicDaveSmith makes an emotional appeal that is not based on reality. No one likes war, Dave. No matter how many quotes you’re able to pull together to make your case. After listing to 5+ hours of your debates, it’s not clear to me what drives your hate of Israel. If you came into this academic challenge free of any bias, what persuaded you to form so much hate for the Jewish state. Your arguments are nothing that we have not heard from Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, Rashid Khalidi and Elon Pepe. Have you studied the organized movement behind the New Historian revisionism?

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Pierce, why are you continue to put on Dave Smith idiot.... BIG IDIOT. Asshole for a mouth

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray @ComicDaveSmith, great job 👏

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Eric has honour and integrity in all subjects he gets involved in

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Dave Robson definitely NOT still smarting from Douglas Murrays's criticism. No, NOT smarting AT ALL!!! (You can actually see it eating away at him.)

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Eric made great points, such that Douglas came to discuss a book and Dave came to debate.

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray The late great Carl Sagan spoke about Mars his entire career, without visiting once. According to Murray's flawed logic, we shouldn't take Carl Sagan seriously. The debate was Murray Vs Murray & he knocked himself out. Ps Eric is a friend of Murray, so don't trust his opinion.

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Eric Weinstein deserves a follow for that. 🙌🏼 Even Dave was liking his calm demeanor.

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Eric is great!

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray It's painfully embarrassing how much the "comedian" is out of his depth. His fans think he makes more sense than people thrice his capability proves Dunning Kruger.

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Joe sucks Arab cocks

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray I didn't see the exchange as a debate either, @DouglasKMurray came at this from a journalistic POV. Smith refused to be challenged on his inaccuracies and ignorance on Israel. If you're going to obsess on a subject why not take the opportunity to go and find out first hand.

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Piers needs to have @TheOmniLiberal on as soon as possible

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Dave Smith made an emotional argument based on ‘ethics’ which in of itself is a philosophical question. He doesn’t consider the impact of Israel not dropping bombs over a given period of time and has the arrogance to assume he’s better placed to dictate morality best.

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray 2/2 and if Israel, or any country attacked, cant respond with military force because kids might be killed, isnt this an invitation for forces that dont care about the rules to attack?

@piersmorgan @ComicDaveSmith @EricRWeinstein @DouglasKMurray Literally turned off after an hour.


