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I sat down with Strive CEO Matt Cole to discuss digital credit, $ASST, and $SATA. Matt Cole breaks down the mechanics, the dividend structures, what the risks are, Michael Saylor's decision to sell bitcoin, and why a thriving ecosystem of digital credit issuers is better for bitcoin long-term. YouTube:...

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Michael Saylor may have just revealed the future of Bitcoin treasury companies… and Strive is already building it. In this conversation with Strive's Chief Strategy Officer Avik Roy, we break down: • Why Strategy’s latest earnings call changed the game • The rise of digital credit ($STRC, $SATA & beyond) • Why some Bitcoin treasury firms failed • Why selling Bitcoin can actually be bullish • The next phase of institutional $BTC adoption One of the most insightful discussions we’ve had on Bitcoin treasury strategy. 00:00 Avik Roy’s Bitcoin Origin Story 14:26 What Avik Actually Does at Strive 17:39 Why Strive Wants to Become a PURE Bitcoin Company 20:19 Will Bitcoin Treasury Companies Start Consolidating? 27:14 Europe vs US Bitcoin Treasury Markets 29:00 Michael Saylor’s BIGGEST Earnings Call Hint 30:25 Why STRC Is Dominating the Market 33:22 The Most Shocking Part of Strategy’s Earnings Call 37:32 “Bitcoin Is Fungible… But Not for Taxes” 41:19 The Credit Rating Catalyst That Could Change Everything 44:18 Why Some Smaller Bitcoin Treasury Companies Failed 48:19 Will SATA & STRC Keep Paying Huge Yields? 52:35 Which Bitcoin Treasury Company Is Next? 56:44 “Bitcoin Treasuries Are Like Private Equity in the 1980s” 01:01:18 Macro Outlook: Bitcoin, Inflation & The Fed 01:05:08 Final Thoughts & Where to Follow Avik Roy Full episode 👇
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Michael Saylor may have just revealed the future of Bitcoin treasury companies… and Strive is already building it. In this conversation with Strive's Chief Strategy Officer Avik Roy, we break down: • Why Strategy’s latest earnings call changed the game • The rise of digital credit ($STRC, $SATA & beyond) • Why some Bitcoin treasury firms failed • Why selling Bitcoin can actually be bullish • The next phase of institutional $BTC adoption One of the most insightful discussions we’ve had on Bitcoin treasury strategy. 00:00 Avik Roy’s Bitcoin Origin Story 14:26 What Avik Actually Does at Strive 17:39 Why Strive Wants to Become a PURE Bitcoin Company 20:19 Will Bitcoin Treasury Companies Start Consolidating? 27:14 Europe vs US Bitcoin Treasury Markets 29:00 Michael Saylor’s BIGGEST Earnings Call Hint 30:25 Why STRC Is Dominating the Market 33:22 The Most Shocking Part of Strategy’s Earnings Call 37:32 “Bitcoin Is Fungible… But Not for Taxes” 41:19 The Credit Rating Catalyst That Could Change Everything 44:18 Why Some Smaller Bitcoin Treasury Companies Failed 48:19 Will SATA & STRC Keep Paying Huge Yields? 52:35 Which Bitcoin Treasury Company Is Next? 56:44 “Bitcoin Treasuries Are Like Private Equity in the 1980s” 01:01:18 Macro Outlook: Bitcoin, Inflation & The Fed 01:05:08 Final Thoughts & Where to Follow Avik Roy Full episode 👇

One Chair

26,877 Aufrufe • vor 4 Monaten

Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate Episode 75: Growing Trust Grows Liquidity In this week's Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down Strive adding 1,355 BTC, Bitcoin's breakout, and why short-term traders may miss the move. They also discuss how digital credit could reshape the next bull market, why liquidity is the clearest measure of trust, and what Michael Saylor and Warren Buffett teach about building balance sheet companies. Here's the latest with Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, Ben Werkman, and Tim Kotzman Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:40 - Strive's Balance Sheet Growth 06:13 - Bitcoin's Breakout 08:23 - Warrants and Short-Term Trading 13:38 - Zoom Out and Stay in the Game 21:31 - Digital Credit Changes the Bull Run 23:09 - $SATA Volume and 75 Dividends 26:00 - Liquidity Is Trust 32:03 - Why Digital Credit Isn't for Everyone 37:20 - Building Strategy's Liquidity Engine 41:49 - Lessons From Michael Saylor and Buffett 50:04 - The Return of Balance Sheet Companies $MSTR $STRC $ASST $SATA $BTC
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Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate Episode 75: Growing Trust Grows Liquidity In this week's Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down Strive adding 1,355 BTC, Bitcoin's breakout, and why short-term traders may miss the move. They also discuss how digital credit could reshape the next bull market, why liquidity is the clearest measure of trust, and what Michael Saylor and Warren Buffett teach about building balance sheet companies. Here's the latest with Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, Ben Werkman, and Tim Kotzman Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:40 - Strive's Balance Sheet Growth 06:13 - Bitcoin's Breakout 08:23 - Warrants and Short-Term Trading 13:38 - Zoom Out and Stay in the Game 21:31 - Digital Credit Changes the Bull Run 23:09 - $SATA Volume and 75 Dividends 26:00 - Liquidity Is Trust 32:03 - Why Digital Credit Isn't for Everyone 37:20 - Building Strategy's Liquidity Engine 41:49 - Lessons From Michael Saylor and Buffett 50:04 - The Return of Balance Sheet Companies $MSTR $STRC $ASST $SATA $BTC

The Hurdle Rate Podcast

97,889 Aufrufe • vor 12 Tagen

📺 The Bitcoin For Corporations Show Episode 32 now live — hosted by Pierre Rochard Pierre sits down with Matt Cole, Ben Werkman, and Jeff Walton to break down Strive’s evolution into a Bitcoin treasury powerhouse. From solving the retirement crisis with 13% yields to surviving the coming AI disruption, learn why digital credit is the "iPhone moment" for corporate finance. 00:31 Strive’s Bitcoin Journey 01:45 Digital Credit Yields 03:08 Bitcoin iPhone Moment 06:54 Institutional Infrastructure 14:27 S&P 500 Barriers 15:31 Cash "Hot Potato" 19:30 AI Risk Hedge 27:01 S&P 500 Turnover 31:08 Strive vs MicroStrategy 38:00 Corporate Game Theory 43:02 Bear Market Growth
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📺 The Bitcoin For Corporations Show Episode 32 now live — hosted by Pierre Rochard Pierre sits down with Matt Cole, Ben Werkman, and Jeff Walton to break down Strive’s evolution into a Bitcoin treasury powerhouse. From solving the retirement crisis with 13% yields to surviving the coming AI disruption, learn why digital credit is the "iPhone moment" for corporate finance. 00:31 Strive’s Bitcoin Journey 01:45 Digital Credit Yields 03:08 Bitcoin iPhone Moment 06:54 Institutional Infrastructure 14:27 S&P 500 Barriers 15:31 Cash "Hot Potato" 19:30 AI Risk Hedge 27:01 S&P 500 Turnover 31:08 Strive vs MicroStrategy 38:00 Corporate Game Theory 43:02 Bear Market Growth

Bitcoin For Corporations

186,630 Aufrufe • vor 6 Monaten

Bitcoin Capitalism — my keynote from BTC Prague 2026. Digital Capital is the foundation for Digital Credit, Digital Money, Digital Yield, Digital Equity, and a universe of Bitcoin-backed products and services. Timestamps: 01:37 - The Four Bitcoin Ideologies and the case for Bitcoin Capitalism 03:29 - Bitcoin as Digital Capital: thousand-year capital with a half-life of infinity 06:12 - Bitcoin network snapshot and ~68% dominance 07:41 - What is money? The Austrian view, the conventional investor view, and “Bitcoin is money, everything else is credit” 09:21 - Digital Money and Digital Credit: bitcoin-backed products for fiat-facing investors 11:28 - Digital Credit: an ~$11–12B asset class that was zero 12 months ago 14:54 - Bitcoin’s opportunity: $1T of bitcoin vs. $1,000T of global capital 15:43 - The 10-dimensional model for reaching stranded capital 16:44 - 1) Asset types: commodities, equities, credit, derivatives, real estate, money, and tokens 18:07 - 2) Capital functions: store of value, appreciation, income, collateral, and payments 19:29 - 3) Custody: self-custody, banks, custodians, broker-dealers, prime brokers, and exchanges 20:34 - 4) Jurisdictions: 664,000 legal and regulatory environments for capital 22:03 - 5) Distribution networks: banks, exchanges, payment networks, and $156T controlled by wealth advisors 23:13 - 6) Account forms: retirement accounts, brokerage accounts, insurance policies, treasuries, and trusts 24:51 - 7) Risk: market, currency, duration, regulatory, credit, technical, security, theft, and counterparty risk 26:03 - 8) Liquidity: transforming $350T of illiquid capital with liquid digital assets 28:02 - 9) Investors: banks control ~$200T and need compliant bitcoin-backed products 30:09 - 10) Product characteristics: fixed rate, floating rate, leverage, callability, fees, and structure 30:45 - The 10x10 matrix for channeling global capital into Bitcoin 31:19 - How $10–20T of capital could expand Bitcoin into a $100T network, moving from $70K to $700K to $7M per bitcoin 32:10 - Bitcoin Capitalism as a Darwinian market: winners, challengers, failures, and 1,400 companies tracked by Strategy 34:53 - Existing bitcoin-backed products: Trezor, Unchained, Fidelity Investments, FOLD BITCOIN, Tando, Relai 🇨🇭, Cash App, Hodl Hodl, AnchorWatch, meanwhile | Bitcoin Life Insurance, $IBIT, $STRC, and $MSTR 40:03 - Digital Capital, Digital Credit, Digital Money, and Digital Yield competing with traditional capital markets 41:03 - Digital Money and Digital Yield: better stablecoins and higher-yield bitcoin-backed products 47:27 - 3 ways to participate: savers, investors, and innovators 49:19 - The aluminum airplane analogy: people buy the product, not the commodity underneath 52:29 - Build a ₿ridge to connect $BTC to the global capital markets 53:42 - 10,000 products, 10,000 needs, and 100,000 corporate efforts to change the world
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Bitcoin Capitalism — my keynote from BTC Prague 2026. Digital Capital is the foundation for Digital Credit, Digital Money, Digital Yield, Digital Equity, and a universe of Bitcoin-backed products and services. Timestamps: 01:37 - The Four Bitcoin Ideologies and the case for Bitcoin Capitalism 03:29 - Bitcoin as Digital Capital: thousand-year capital with a half-life of infinity 06:12 - Bitcoin network snapshot and ~68% dominance 07:41 - What is money? The Austrian view, the conventional investor view, and “Bitcoin is money, everything else is credit” 09:21 - Digital Money and Digital Credit: bitcoin-backed products for fiat-facing investors 11:28 - Digital Credit: an ~$11–12B asset class that was zero 12 months ago 14:54 - Bitcoin’s opportunity: $1T of bitcoin vs. $1,000T of global capital 15:43 - The 10-dimensional model for reaching stranded capital 16:44 - 1) Asset types: commodities, equities, credit, derivatives, real estate, money, and tokens 18:07 - 2) Capital functions: store of value, appreciation, income, collateral, and payments 19:29 - 3) Custody: self-custody, banks, custodians, broker-dealers, prime brokers, and exchanges 20:34 - 4) Jurisdictions: 664,000 legal and regulatory environments for capital 22:03 - 5) Distribution networks: banks, exchanges, payment networks, and $156T controlled by wealth advisors 23:13 - 6) Account forms: retirement accounts, brokerage accounts, insurance policies, treasuries, and trusts 24:51 - 7) Risk: market, currency, duration, regulatory, credit, technical, security, theft, and counterparty risk 26:03 - 8) Liquidity: transforming $350T of illiquid capital with liquid digital assets 28:02 - 9) Investors: banks control ~$200T and need compliant bitcoin-backed products 30:09 - 10) Product characteristics: fixed rate, floating rate, leverage, callability, fees, and structure 30:45 - The 10x10 matrix for channeling global capital into Bitcoin 31:19 - How $10–20T of capital could expand Bitcoin into a $100T network, moving from $70K to $700K to $7M per bitcoin 32:10 - Bitcoin Capitalism as a Darwinian market: winners, challengers, failures, and 1,400 companies tracked by Strategy 34:53 - Existing bitcoin-backed products: Trezor, Unchained, Fidelity Investments, FOLD BITCOIN, Tando, Relai 🇨🇭, Cash App, Hodl Hodl, AnchorWatch, meanwhile | Bitcoin Life Insurance, $IBIT, $STRC, and $MSTR 40:03 - Digital Capital, Digital Credit, Digital Money, and Digital Yield competing with traditional capital markets 41:03 - Digital Money and Digital Yield: better stablecoins and higher-yield bitcoin-backed products 47:27 - 3 ways to participate: savers, investors, and innovators 49:19 - The aluminum airplane analogy: people buy the product, not the commodity underneath 52:29 - Build a ₿ridge to connect $BTC to the global capital markets 53:42 - 10,000 products, 10,000 needs, and 100,000 corporate efforts to change the world

Michael Saylor

266,579 Aufrufe • vor 3 Monaten

The Blueprint for a New Financial System Michael Saylor, founder and Executive Chairman of MicroStrategy, returns to explain how Bitcoin is transforming global capital markets and redefining the future of wealth creation. Drawing from his background in science and engineering, Saylor breaks down how Bitcoin’s architecture merges technology, economics, and mathematics to create the first truly engineered form of sound money — one that’s reshaping corporate finance, investment strategy, and even national policy. In this conversation, we explore why legacy finance is structurally unsustainable, how overcollateralized digital credit could replace sovereign debt, and why Bitcoin’s “refinery model” may ignite a new era of capital efficiency. Saylor details the evolution from digital gold to digital credit, how MicroStrategy’s innovations are setting the blueprint for Bitcoin-backed balance sheets, and why governments, banks, and investors will ultimately be forced to adopt Bitcoin as the foundation of a new global financial system. Timestamps: 0:00 – Why Bitcoin Is Inevitable 4:12 – How Technology Turned Energy Into Capital 8:27 – Why 99% of Companies Are Locked Out of Capital Markets 12:38 – The “Kerosene” Metaphor: Refining Bitcoin Into Yield Instruments 18:21 – Designing Digital Credit: How It Actually Works 32:55 – How Bitcoin Becomes the Base Layer for Digital Credit 48:12 – Rebuilding Legacy Finance on Bitcoin Infrastructure 56:09 – Turning USD Yield Into Bitcoin Yield 1:12:24 – Why Bitcoin’s Refinery Model Could Spark a New Industrial Revolution 1:24:10 – How Digital Credit Will Outperform Traditional Bonds 1:38:52 – Why Governments and Corporations Will Be Forced to Adopt Bitcoin 1:52:40 – Adapting to Change — Why Relevance Is Earned Daily Note: This interview was recorded with Mark Moss on September 30, 2025, before $STRC, $STRK, $STRD, and $STRF began trading on Robinhood.
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The Blueprint for a New Financial System Michael Saylor, founder and Executive Chairman of MicroStrategy, returns to explain how Bitcoin is transforming global capital markets and redefining the future of wealth creation. Drawing from his background in science and engineering, Saylor breaks down how Bitcoin’s architecture merges technology, economics, and mathematics to create the first truly engineered form of sound money — one that’s reshaping corporate finance, investment strategy, and even national policy. In this conversation, we explore why legacy finance is structurally unsustainable, how overcollateralized digital credit could replace sovereign debt, and why Bitcoin’s “refinery model” may ignite a new era of capital efficiency. Saylor details the evolution from digital gold to digital credit, how MicroStrategy’s innovations are setting the blueprint for Bitcoin-backed balance sheets, and why governments, banks, and investors will ultimately be forced to adopt Bitcoin as the foundation of a new global financial system. Timestamps: 0:00 – Why Bitcoin Is Inevitable 4:12 – How Technology Turned Energy Into Capital 8:27 – Why 99% of Companies Are Locked Out of Capital Markets 12:38 – The “Kerosene” Metaphor: Refining Bitcoin Into Yield Instruments 18:21 – Designing Digital Credit: How It Actually Works 32:55 – How Bitcoin Becomes the Base Layer for Digital Credit 48:12 – Rebuilding Legacy Finance on Bitcoin Infrastructure 56:09 – Turning USD Yield Into Bitcoin Yield 1:12:24 – Why Bitcoin’s Refinery Model Could Spark a New Industrial Revolution 1:24:10 – How Digital Credit Will Outperform Traditional Bonds 1:38:52 – Why Governments and Corporations Will Be Forced to Adopt Bitcoin 1:52:40 – Adapting to Change — Why Relevance Is Earned Daily Note: This interview was recorded with Mark Moss on September 30, 2025, before $STRC, $STRK, $STRD, and $STRF began trading on Robinhood.

Michael Saylor

472,340 Aufrufe • vor 11 Monaten

Bitcoin treasury companies are evolving FAST. In this conversation with Joe Burnett, MSBA, we discussed: • Why digital credit $STRC $SATA could be Bitcoin’s next major catalyst • How Strive $ASST is becoming one of Bitcoin’s most important treasury companies • Michael Saylor’s latest move with Strategy $MSTR • Why altcoins may struggle going forward • The rise of “amplified Bitcoin” • How Bitcoin-backed yield products could reshape Wall Street • Why Bitcoin could eventually reach $1.6M One of the biggest takeaways: Bitcoin is no longer just an asset: an entire financial system is being built on top of it. This feels a lot like Bitcoin in 2015… most people still don’t understand what’s coming. 00:00 Joe Burnett's Journey into Bitcoin 06:42 What Joe Burnett Actually Does at Strive 07:53 Why Strive Is Moving Faster Than Every Other Bitcoin Treasury Company 13:09 Strategy’s Shocking New Bitcoin Selling Plan Explained 19:06 The Most Important Takeaway from Strategy’s Earnings Call 25:18 Why Altcoins May Never Recover Against Bitcoin 28:11 Why Debt Is Dangerous for Bitcoin Treasury Companies 30:43 “The World Will Change This Week” — What Is Strive Building? 31:44 Strive’s New Digital Credit ETF Explained 34:31 Joe Burnett Reacts to Jeff Walton vs Coffeezilla 39:07 The Insurance Analogy That Changed the Debate 43:07 Which Bitcoin Treasury Companies Actually Matter? 47:58 Will Digital Credit Replace the 60/40 Portfolio? 52:17 Could Digital Credit Dividend Rates Stay High Forever? 57:58 Why Joe Thinks Bitcoin Is Entering a Historic New Era Full episode 👇
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Bitcoin treasury companies are evolving FAST. In this conversation with Joe Burnett, MSBA, we discussed: • Why digital credit $STRC $SATA could be Bitcoin’s next major catalyst • How Strive $ASST is becoming one of Bitcoin’s most important treasury companies • Michael Saylor’s latest move with Strategy $MSTR • Why altcoins may struggle going forward • The rise of “amplified Bitcoin” • How Bitcoin-backed yield products could reshape Wall Street • Why Bitcoin could eventually reach $1.6M One of the biggest takeaways: Bitcoin is no longer just an asset: an entire financial system is being built on top of it. This feels a lot like Bitcoin in 2015… most people still don’t understand what’s coming. 00:00 Joe Burnett's Journey into Bitcoin 06:42 What Joe Burnett Actually Does at Strive 07:53 Why Strive Is Moving Faster Than Every Other Bitcoin Treasury Company 13:09 Strategy’s Shocking New Bitcoin Selling Plan Explained 19:06 The Most Important Takeaway from Strategy’s Earnings Call 25:18 Why Altcoins May Never Recover Against Bitcoin 28:11 Why Debt Is Dangerous for Bitcoin Treasury Companies 30:43 “The World Will Change This Week” — What Is Strive Building? 31:44 Strive’s New Digital Credit ETF Explained 34:31 Joe Burnett Reacts to Jeff Walton vs Coffeezilla 39:07 The Insurance Analogy That Changed the Debate 43:07 Which Bitcoin Treasury Companies Actually Matter? 47:58 Will Digital Credit Replace the 60/40 Portfolio? 52:17 Could Digital Credit Dividend Rates Stay High Forever? 57:58 Why Joe Thinks Bitcoin Is Entering a Historic New Era Full episode 👇

One Chair

15,547 Aufrufe • vor 4 Monaten