I stand by what I said

Citing the flawed racist consensus pre-1978 as evidence against ideological diversity is exactly backwards. Revelation comes when we have questions that need answered. And if there had been no diversity of opinion on that issue, the right question would never have been asked.

Go back and watch my video slowly. The question of if this sort of thing is morally acceptable is not an open question. It’s not. Any diversity of opinion on such a clear subject is cancer. This is literally sexualizing This underage boys. Boy Scouts are under 18. This is his brand that he shamelessly promotes. Is this acceptable for a Latter-day Saint? What Christian seeking Christ is going to take us seriously when we promote people who are actively promoting the sexualization of boys to gay men?

Oh, cool! You’ve combined both of your most recent obsessions into one! Read Delbert Stapley’s letter to George Romney and tell me that unity around that position was what the Lord wanted. Drop the Pono thing altogether. Then I’ll watch the video as slowly as you want.

You can’t be this dense. If there was no ideological diversity, the church would still think black people were less valiant in the pre-existence. Everyone would have just assumed that it was the truth that God told his prophet, Brigham Young.

Go back and watch the video again… slowly. You clearly don’t understand my point

You already talk to slow, I can’t watch it any more “slowly”. Explain your point. Or is it in the original video? Revelation doesn’t happen without diversity of thought. Revelation then settles the diversity of thought until the next question arises.

It seems like people hear “diversity” and have to automatically defend it without understanding the concept they are defending. To me it’s like you are telling people to hold on to the iron rod and this guy is like, “no, letting go of the iron rod is our strength.”

Let’s strengthen our unity, not glorify our diversity.

That clip from Oaks hits HARD!

2005 BYU devotional “The Dedication of a Lifetime” Dallin H. Oaks “In a memorable message given at the 1971 October conference, Elder Boyd K. Packer likened the fulness of the gospel to a piano keyboard. He reminded us that a person could be attracted by a single key, such as a doctrine they want to hear played over and over again.” “Some members of the Church who should know better pick out a hobby key or two and tap them incessantly, to the irritation of those around them. They can dull their own spiritual sensitivities. They lose track that there is a fulness of the gospel . . . [which they reject] in preference to a favorite note. This becomes exaggerated and distorted, leading them away into apostasy.” “Beware of a hobby key. If you tap one key to the exclusion or serious detriment of the full harmony of the gospel keyboard, Satan can use your strength to bring you down.”

No idea what that has to do with what I said in the video.

You teach a lot of true doctrine Jacob, which I love and agree with, but you’re not playing the whole piano.

@ThoughtfulSaint This is the most critical thing you’ve ever said to anyone on here.

@ThoughtfulSaint I believe in being kind and not just being nice. The truth doesn’t always feel nice. Jacob is a good man. He can handle it.

@yourproductsx @ThoughtfulSaint Can you explain the relevance? What does it have to do with the video?

The quote I shared with Jacob has everything to do with the video Jacob put together. Because Jacob is sharing true doctrine. He shared quotes from President Oaks. However, this is only playing a portion of the piano. Jacob is focusing on a few hobby keys, which are true. But he’s missing out on the beauty of the music of the whole gospel.

Oof that was an L for that guy.

"Revelation is messy" book of Baloney chapter 1 vs 2.

This is your sign to leave Mormonism.

Nope

It’s all good, God has a lot more in case this one doesn’t stick.

Except most of the churches current positions came from the diversity you are criticizing. That diversity is now considered the “truth”.

A sizeable portion of your views are a direct result of ideological diversity and the LDS church changing its stance on various matters.

Tink tink. Stop touching the money of child traffickers and calling it tithing.

Hmmm.

My issue is the @Ch_JesusChrist made my life hard embedding the currency of child trafficking into the Utah government. Then stealing from tax payers through the governors office. Messing around with the Stratos project and now nuclear. Completely preventable issue. So—YOU STOP.

Another day another topic

You're such a smug @$$hole. Your probably smell your own farts in a wine glass to get high off your own smugness...

Dig in Jacob. You are winning! 💪🏻

The Lds church just changes its stance on things like that because if they didn’t more people would leave than what are already pouring out. You wanna talk about the 40 percent of Rm’s who’s lose their testimony in the field and leave the church after return

Diversity is our biggest weakness.

The LDS would not allow Blacks to be in your so called Priesthood. The Word of God which we hear in scriptures is not some static Word, but Word brought to us from the mouth of the living God by his life-giving Breath or Spirit-Word. This is revelation.

But magic underwear is not.

Where is the clip from President Oaks from?

Amen

Well said.

@Mormonger Banger!

The problem is when you say “be one” the church it’s more “listen to the leaders for they speak to God for us and we aren’t able to ask and speak to god and receive revelation straight from him”

Jacob Hansen is a liar and Mormon cult appologist