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I still can't get over this discrepancy: Ken Klippenstein posted Discord receipt of Tyler Robinson “confessing” to killing Kirk. WaPo said it was the 'only' message posted. Yet NYT said Tyler was joking with friends on Discord between the shot and when he turned himself in. 🤔

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We now have absolute proof Tyler Robinson was framed for the Charlie Kirk assassination. They were planning on setting up Tyler Robinson to die in a police shootout. That plan was foiled when Tyler realized he was being framed and randomly showed up at a police station and turned himself in before the cops could kill him.
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We now have absolute proof Tyler Robinson was framed for the Charlie Kirk assassination. They were planning on setting up Tyler Robinson to die in a police shootout. That plan was foiled when Tyler realized he was being framed and randomly showed up at a police station and turned himself in before the cops could kill him.

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Here's the proof that Tyler Robinson was mirandized at 6:25 PM on Thursday, September 11th—NOT Friday the 12th, as the fedsloppers claim. Post this wherever you see one of them arguing it was the 12th. Why it's important: 1. Tyler supposedly posted a confession to Discord at 7:57 PM on September 11th. But by that time, he'd already been sitting in custody at the Washington County Sheriff's office since 6:25 PM and NOT confessing. 2. At 7:50 PM the night of the 11th, while Tyler was already in custody, they held the infamous press conference where they released video and pictures to aid the manhunt. Later, it would be claimed that Tyler's dad recognized these photos and persuaded Tyler to turn himself in. But if Tyler was already in custody when those pictures were released, this narrative was a lie. 3. If they're lying about how and when Tyler turned himself in—and if the Discord confession is fake—then this is powerful evidence of a conspiracy & cover-up. That is why the fedsloppers need "the evening of Tyler's arrest" to be Friday, September 12th, not Thursday the 11th. NOTE: Whether you accept this newly discovered timeline or not, you're left with only 2 choices: either Tyler somehow confessed on Discord while he was in custody at the Sheriff's office and refusing to confess to them, OR he confessed on Discord WHILE he was counseling with his parents, detective friend & LDS bishop on the best course of action (and then turned himself in and refused to confess). Do either of those possibilities sound even remotely likely?
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Here's the proof that Tyler Robinson was mirandized at 6:25 PM on Thursday, September 11th—NOT Friday the 12th, as the fedsloppers claim. Post this wherever you see one of them arguing it was the 12th. Why it's important: 1. Tyler supposedly posted a confession to Discord at 7:57 PM on September 11th. But by that time, he'd already been sitting in custody at the Washington County Sheriff's office since 6:25 PM and NOT confessing. 2. At 7:50 PM the night of the 11th, while Tyler was already in custody, they held the infamous press conference where they released video and pictures to aid the manhunt. Later, it would be claimed that Tyler's dad recognized these photos and persuaded Tyler to turn himself in. But if Tyler was already in custody when those pictures were released, this narrative was a lie. 3. If they're lying about how and when Tyler turned himself in—and if the Discord confession is fake—then this is powerful evidence of a conspiracy & cover-up. That is why the fedsloppers need "the evening of Tyler's arrest" to be Friday, September 12th, not Thursday the 11th. NOTE: Whether you accept this newly discovered timeline or not, you're left with only 2 choices: either Tyler somehow confessed on Discord while he was in custody at the Sheriff's office and refusing to confess to them, OR he confessed on Discord WHILE he was counseling with his parents, detective friend & LDS bishop on the best course of action (and then turned himself in and refused to confess). Do either of those possibilities sound even remotely likely?

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Really can’t stress how devastating this revelation from Baron Coleman is to the “unofficial” Tyler Robinson timeline. I say unofficial timeline bc the most damning Discord chat message- the one leaked to and published by Ken Klippenstein on September 16, isn’t actually referenced in the Utah County probable cause court filing. No Discord chats whatsoever are mentioned there. There is a Discord chat mentioned in the booking charge, but it gives no specifics. If Tyler Robinson was in custody at 6:25 MST on September 11, 2025 he could not have written that supposed confession message. So if he didn’t write it, who did? Who had access to Tyler’s account? Who was Klippenstein’s source? That message has been used to convict Tyler in the court of public opinion. Where it originated is extremely important to figure out.
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Charlie Kirk’s killer reportedly confessed to the murder on a Discord server, just hours before being taken into custody. If this reporting is accurate, it could be the final nail in the coffin for Tyler Robinson...quite literally. “CNN has learned through the Washington Post—that the suspect in the Charlie Kirk murder apparently confessed to the act on a Discord chat.” “According to two of its sources, that in about two hours before the 22-year-old Tyler Robinson was taken into custody, he used a Discord social media app to message a group of friends on there where he said,” “I have some bad news. It was me at UVU yesterday.” “And he then also went on to thank them and telling them that he would be surrendering and thank them for, quote, ‘all the good times and laughs.’”
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Here is Tyler Robinson after he/his parents turned him in to the police. He is wearing the same converse shoes as before when he was caught on camera in the stairwell. The evidence is incontrovertible. All the people who said Robinson was never on UVU campus were catastrophically wrong. Tyler Robinson is going to be charged, and all the insane speculation/lies about this case are officially put to bed. It’s over.
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Here is Tyler Robinson after he/his parents turned him in to the police. He is wearing the same converse shoes as before when he was caught on camera in the stairwell. The evidence is incontrovertible. All the people who said Robinson was never on UVU campus were catastrophically wrong. Tyler Robinson is going to be charged, and all the insane speculation/lies about this case are officially put to bed. It’s over.

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Wow Baron Coleman was right. The shadows in these photos allegedly of Tyler Robinson (first posted by TMZ) don’t line up with how long they are supposed to be at that time/location. So where was Tyler? When was Tyler? What was Tyler?!! 🤯🤨
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Wow Baron Coleman was right. The shadows in these photos allegedly of Tyler Robinson (first posted by TMZ) don’t line up with how long they are supposed to be at that time/location. So where was Tyler? When was Tyler? What was Tyler?!! 🤯🤨

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Further proving how sick and demented Tucker Carlson is, he is now trying to help Tyler Robinson get off with murder by lying and saying, “Charlie Kirk was not murdered for his opinions on transgenderism. Obviously. Those of us who knew him best and called him a friend believe he was most likely murdered for his evolving views on Israel.” Tyler Robinson planned his attack and said in writing it was over trans issues. He confessed, his trans lover confessed and Tyler’s family turned him in. Tucker is spewing proven lies for the sake of amplifying anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and running cover for the radical left. He is demented, and clearly has a motive to sow discord in America based off of lies. Very sick. Andrew Kolvet Tyler Bowyer Erika Kirk

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🔥🚨" LADIES & GENTLEMEN..WE GOT HIM." Charlie Kirk Assassination update in Arrest of suspect Tyler Robinson. ROBINSON REACHED OUT TO A FAMILY FRIEND IMPLYING HE HAD COMMITTED THE INCIDENT ROBINSON HAD BECOME MORE POLITICAL IN RECENT YEARS AND MENTIONED CHARLIE KIRK WAS COMING TO UTAH TO A FAMILY MEMBER. THEY TALKED ABOUT WHY THEY DIDN'T LIKE HIM & THE FAMILY MEMBER ROBINSON SAID KIRK WAS FULL OF HATE ROBINSONS ROOMMATE TOLD HIM HE MADE A JOKE ON DISCORD. THE ROOMMATE SHOWED IT TO AUTHORITIES.. THE MESSAGE SAID HE " I NEED TO RETRIEVE A RIFLE FROM A DROP POINT." "HEY FASCIST CATCH" READ ONE OF THE CASING "IF YOU READ THIS YOU ARE GAY" READ ANOTHER.
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🔥🚨" LADIES & GENTLEMEN..WE GOT HIM." Charlie Kirk Assassination update in Arrest of suspect Tyler Robinson. ROBINSON REACHED OUT TO A FAMILY FRIEND IMPLYING HE HAD COMMITTED THE INCIDENT ROBINSON HAD BECOME MORE POLITICAL IN RECENT YEARS AND MENTIONED CHARLIE KIRK WAS COMING TO UTAH TO A FAMILY MEMBER. THEY TALKED ABOUT WHY THEY DIDN'T LIKE HIM & THE FAMILY MEMBER ROBINSON SAID KIRK WAS FULL OF HATE ROBINSONS ROOMMATE TOLD HIM HE MADE A JOKE ON DISCORD. THE ROOMMATE SHOWED IT TO AUTHORITIES.. THE MESSAGE SAID HE " I NEED TO RETRIEVE A RIFLE FROM A DROP POINT." "HEY FASCIST CATCH" READ ONE OF THE CASING "IF YOU READ THIS YOU ARE GAY" READ ANOTHER.

Johnny St.Pete

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Holy hell… Candace Owens actually said, to support her claim that Erika Kirk was “complicit” - in promoting a false narrative that Tyler Robinson was the shooter - (walking it back quite a tad) because… She doesn’t believe that Erika Kirk believed that Tyler Robinson was the shooter when Erika Kirk said that to Bari Weiss. But that’s, you know, just “her opinion”. This is pathetic and absolutely delusional.
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Holy hell… Candace Owens actually said, to support her claim that Erika Kirk was “complicit” - in promoting a false narrative that Tyler Robinson was the shooter - (walking it back quite a tad) because… She doesn’t believe that Erika Kirk believed that Tyler Robinson was the shooter when Erika Kirk said that to Bari Weiss. But that’s, you know, just “her opinion”. This is pathetic and absolutely delusional.

Viva Frei

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Tucker Carlson claims Israel killed Charlie Kirk… But is there PROOF of this? “Charlie Kirk was murdered, and he was not murdered for his opinions on transgenderism, obviously. He was, I believe, and most people who knew him well as I did and was friends with him as I was, believe he was most likely murdered for his evolving views on Israel,” Tucker stated, without evidence to support his claim. Over nine months have passed since Charlie was assassinated and the only evidence that people like Tucker can produce that Israel killed Charlie is their own increasing malice toward Israel. In reality, Charlie penned a seven-page letter to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on May 2nd, 2025—approximately four months prior to Charlie's murder. In this letter, Charlie offered to help Israel craft their outreach to young Americans in order to more effectively fight the brain rot of anti-Semitism that Charlie was seeing increasing on the college campuses that he visited. “His evolving views on Israel”—this evolution didn't exist in any evidentiary way. The actual evidence of why Charlie was murdered clearly demonstrates that Tyler Robinson committed this murder and was motivated by a pro-transgender ideology. Let's review just a few of these points: -Tyler Robinson was dating a transgender named Lance Twiggs who called himself Luna. -Tyler Robinson and his transgender lover were into furry pornography. -Tyler Robinson carved furry symbols on bullets. -Tyler Robinson carved “hey fascist! CATCH! ↑→↓↓↓” on one bullet. This is emblematic of the transgender ideology, which is at its heart, a neo-Marxist ideology. -Tyler Robinson's own mother said he was increasingly pro-trans in his politics. -Tyler Robinson called Charlie hateful. -Tyler Robinson wrote in a handwritten note to his transgender lover, “I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it.” -Tyler Robinson then texted his transgender lover, “I had enough of his, Charlie Kirk's hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.” -Tyler Robinson then told his parents after they confronted him about killing Charlie: “there is too much evil and the guy [Charlie Kirk] spreads too much hate.” There is zero evidence for Tucker's accusation that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
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Tucker Carlson claims Israel killed Charlie Kirk… But is there PROOF of this? “Charlie Kirk was murdered, and he was not murdered for his opinions on transgenderism, obviously. He was, I believe, and most people who knew him well as I did and was friends with him as I was, believe he was most likely murdered for his evolving views on Israel,” Tucker stated, without evidence to support his claim. Over nine months have passed since Charlie was assassinated and the only evidence that people like Tucker can produce that Israel killed Charlie is their own increasing malice toward Israel. In reality, Charlie penned a seven-page letter to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on May 2nd, 2025—approximately four months prior to Charlie's murder. In this letter, Charlie offered to help Israel craft their outreach to young Americans in order to more effectively fight the brain rot of anti-Semitism that Charlie was seeing increasing on the college campuses that he visited. “His evolving views on Israel”—this evolution didn't exist in any evidentiary way. The actual evidence of why Charlie was murdered clearly demonstrates that Tyler Robinson committed this murder and was motivated by a pro-transgender ideology. Let's review just a few of these points: -Tyler Robinson was dating a transgender named Lance Twiggs who called himself Luna. -Tyler Robinson and his transgender lover were into furry pornography. -Tyler Robinson carved furry symbols on bullets. -Tyler Robinson carved “hey fascist! CATCH! ↑→↓↓↓” on one bullet. This is emblematic of the transgender ideology, which is at its heart, a neo-Marxist ideology. -Tyler Robinson's own mother said he was increasingly pro-trans in his politics. -Tyler Robinson called Charlie hateful. -Tyler Robinson wrote in a handwritten note to his transgender lover, “I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it.” -Tyler Robinson then texted his transgender lover, “I had enough of his, Charlie Kirk's hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.” -Tyler Robinson then told his parents after they confronted him about killing Charlie: “there is too much evil and the guy [Charlie Kirk] spreads too much hate.” There is zero evidence for Tucker's accusation that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

Liz Wheeler

37,264 görüntüleme • 2 ay önce

Today was Doomsday for the Charlie Kirk Murder Industrial Complex. For the true crime SSRI wine moms and failed Only Fans models turned internet detectives — the grift is officially over. Tyler Robinson’s defense attorneys just admitted to the court that… - Tyler Robinson was on campus to kill Charlie Kirk - Tyler Robinson brought a gun to campus to kill Charlie Kirk - positively ID Tyler Robinson in the campus surveillance video we watched in the courtroom - Admit Tyler Robinson walked with a firearm concealed in his pants to the rooftop - The rooftop surveillance video is the “strongest evidence” the prosecution has - The rooftop surveillance video shows the “shooter” in the prone position over Charlie Kirk for 44 seconds - Tyler Robinson's defense team confirms Charlie Kirk was shot by a bullet travelling at a downward angle from a shooter atop the Losee Center - Tyler Robinson’s confessions to Lance Twiggs about killing Charlie Kirk are real - Tyler Robinson only intended to Kill Charlie Kirk — and did not kill anyone else. This is critical because… - The entire filing is an argument that focused on fighting the death penalty rather than arguing that Tyler Robinson is innocent of taking the shot The lawyers aren’t claiming Robinson wasn’t there, or that he was eating at a steak restaurant, or a patsy of any kind. The defense is now begging for MERCY from the Judge in a last ditch effort to save Tyler from the death penalty. We are all owed an apology from the Charlie Kirk Murder Industrial Complex. Will they give back the millions they made selling lies… Or will they accuse Tyler Robinson’s defense of being in on it with their ‘fedslop’ filing? Watch and see…
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Today was Doomsday for the Charlie Kirk Murder Industrial Complex. For the true crime SSRI wine moms and failed Only Fans models turned internet detectives — the grift is officially over. Tyler Robinson’s defense attorneys just admitted to the court that… - Tyler Robinson was on campus to kill Charlie Kirk - Tyler Robinson brought a gun to campus to kill Charlie Kirk - positively ID Tyler Robinson in the campus surveillance video we watched in the courtroom - Admit Tyler Robinson walked with a firearm concealed in his pants to the rooftop - The rooftop surveillance video is the “strongest evidence” the prosecution has - The rooftop surveillance video shows the “shooter” in the prone position over Charlie Kirk for 44 seconds - Tyler Robinson's defense team confirms Charlie Kirk was shot by a bullet travelling at a downward angle from a shooter atop the Losee Center - Tyler Robinson’s confessions to Lance Twiggs about killing Charlie Kirk are real - Tyler Robinson only intended to Kill Charlie Kirk — and did not kill anyone else. This is critical because… - The entire filing is an argument that focused on fighting the death penalty rather than arguing that Tyler Robinson is innocent of taking the shot The lawyers aren’t claiming Robinson wasn’t there, or that he was eating at a steak restaurant, or a patsy of any kind. The defense is now begging for MERCY from the Judge in a last ditch effort to save Tyler from the death penalty. We are all owed an apology from the Charlie Kirk Murder Industrial Complex. Will they give back the millions they made selling lies… Or will they accuse Tyler Robinson’s defense of being in on it with their ‘fedslop’ filing? Watch and see…

Benny Johnson

728,733 görüntüleme • 12 gün önce

UVU campus Officer Bagley gives the first evidence testimony in the trial of Tyler Robinson for the Murder of Charlie Kirk Notably, he lays out in detail when and where he was when he heard a gunshot and why he concluded it was a rifle shot.
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UVU campus Officer Bagley gives the first evidence testimony in the trial of Tyler Robinson for the Murder of Charlie Kirk Notably, he lays out in detail when and where he was when he heard a gunshot and why he concluded it was a rifle shot.

Andrew Kolvet

48,099 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

🔥👀 LANCE TWIGGS VIDEO TESTIMONY IS PLAYED in the Provo, Utah courtroom for the world to see after attempts by the Tyler Robinson defense to prevent it. “ HE HAD SAID HE WAS PLANNING ON GOING HUNTING WITH HIS FAMILY & WANTED TO ENGRAVE MESSAGES ON BULLETS” - Twiggs Twiggs is shown a note and explains finding it under his computer keyboard. He then took a picture of it. He then asks him about the discord messages. Robinson played D&D. He was asking for a tool to do this a month before at most. Says they met in 2023. He first met his as a new roommate. Says they BEGAN DATING months after they moved in. Tyler Robinson spent the night of the 9th & 10th and left early because Tyler claimed he had a LONG RIDE to work. Says Tyler did not message him all day until 11pm on the 10th This is the video deposition regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk by alleged assassin Tyler Robinson Twiggs seems to confirm he engraved the bullets. 👀Jack Posobiec
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🔥👀 LANCE TWIGGS VIDEO TESTIMONY IS PLAYED in the Provo, Utah courtroom for the world to see after attempts by the Tyler Robinson defense to prevent it. “ HE HAD SAID HE WAS PLANNING ON GOING HUNTING WITH HIS FAMILY & WANTED TO ENGRAVE MESSAGES ON BULLETS” - Twiggs Twiggs is shown a note and explains finding it under his computer keyboard. He then took a picture of it. He then asks him about the discord messages. Robinson played D&D. He was asking for a tool to do this a month before at most. Says they met in 2023. He first met his as a new roommate. Says they BEGAN DATING months after they moved in. Tyler Robinson spent the night of the 9th & 10th and left early because Tyler claimed he had a LONG RIDE to work. Says Tyler did not message him all day until 11pm on the 10th This is the video deposition regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk by alleged assassin Tyler Robinson Twiggs seems to confirm he engraved the bullets. 👀Jack Posobiec

Johnny St.Pete

20,756 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

This has always bothered me.. Lance Twiggs stated today that he found a confession Letter in Tyler Robinson’s room, under his keyboard— he took a Screenshot of it and it was never seen again Here’s the problem… • September 15, 2025 Kash Patel first said that Tyler Robinson texted someone that he had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk • September 15, 2025 Kash then said there was a Handwritten Note, that doesn’t exist anymore, of Tyler, stating he had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk. He said it was destroyed, but “verified” via interrogation and forensic evidence of said note. So the only confirmation of a confession note is what Lance Twiggs took a screen shot of, but the original note got destroyed? Am I understanding that correctly? Sounds very odd…
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This has always bothered me.. Lance Twiggs stated today that he found a confession Letter in Tyler Robinson’s room, under his keyboard— he took a Screenshot of it and it was never seen again Here’s the problem… • September 15, 2025 Kash Patel first said that Tyler Robinson texted someone that he had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk • September 15, 2025 Kash then said there was a Handwritten Note, that doesn’t exist anymore, of Tyler, stating he had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk. He said it was destroyed, but “verified” via interrogation and forensic evidence of said note. So the only confirmation of a confession note is what Lance Twiggs took a screen shot of, but the original note got destroyed? Am I understanding that correctly? Sounds very odd…

MJTruthUltra

169,453 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce