Idk why Vivziepop keeps forcing her own experiences into established characters like it won't fuck up their development. Ever since she did that with Charlie, Charlie went from being somewhat annoying and naive to just downright stupid and selfish and so many ppl hate her now

Charlie gasping at angel being a murderer or wtv is hilarious to me bc...you guys are in hell..what did u expect

People need to accept the fact that Vivziepop doesn't know how to write characters consistently

And when Valentino went to help with his non-consensual sex-power beam, that wretch smiled at him, even Vox had more common sense than her in this scene

Ngl I had a gut feeling about Charlie.. and now she just shows how terrible she is. For being the daughter of hell, she seems SO disconnected from her people even though she runs a hotel 🫩

@Crowley_NRC Also why would they care he’s a murderer like 99% of the people in hell in this show were murderers

to be fair, i've always hated charlie

Just want to point this out "What exercise can you do to redeem someone of being a murderer" I'm pretty sure half it's not the majority the population of the sinners are murderers and far far worse, that little scene it's just a little funny to me

Character development is something vivziepop just can't write

Charlie is my favorite character, and I say with my whole chest that her writing in S2 was absolute ass

She’s the daughter of pride, she did promise not to cross his boundaries but she’s to focused on her own goals to understand what she’s doing is wrong… because thats how she expresses her sin of pride?

She didn’t even invite the abuser, she was to invite journalists.Vox just used that as a pretext to gain entry to the hotel. In fact,no one at the hotel even knew who Vox was and let’s not forget that Husk also supported Charlie’s idea, precisely bc he, too,knew nothing about Vox

It's like Season 2 Charlie is a clone with no memories of the original.

Hazbin’s music is so ass that I gen thought the clown music was a part of the og scene until it kept going 😭😭

she is princess of hell why doesnt she kill that fuckass tv and the other bitch already

she fanonizes her characters hella

Vivi will never improve she doesnt care what fans think of her writing no character consistency, no development whatsoever just pathetic self insert.

In season 3 Charlie most likely will be worse tryin impressing Lilith. Charlie is her own worse enemy

I will always find hilarious the scene where it's reveal that Angel is a... murderer 😮😮😮 ??? Like hello you live in hell next to a city called Canibal Town how is this supposed to be a big reveal ??? (also Charlie wants to redeam sinners but she never asked their sins ???)

😭😭 Is that what she's been doing?! That's so disappointing, I understand making certain characters have some of your traits as their aurthor but messing up their development and overall storyline just because of that is terrible writing

It's almost as if these are HER characters not yours.... Almost like they were specifically made to be in her ideals, idk??? 😂

So… you’re saying she’s a bad writer because a character broke a promise? I’m sorry but there are so many other criticisms you can make towards her writing. Yet you pick the fact that a character broke a promise.

Lol

Do character motivations/development just reset after 1 minute? Even modern SMG4 can keep character development at least through a whole arc

It’s almost like it’s her own character that she can do what she wants with! Almost like there’s the option to not like the shows plot and not watch it as a result! Wild concept, I know!

thats why im never watching this and the pilot solos. pilot charlie could never

S2 is ass, and was solely write with making vox look good and powerfull in mind

Honestly will Charlie ever learn that not every sinner can be redeemed.

I don't get how she managed to make the main character so unlikeable.

Angel deserve sm better :((((

Charlie was so annoying in s2, and she barely did anything that made the plot move forward, unlike in the previous season. I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling about her character "development" in the next one.

Yup vivziepop really make rich or royal are difficult to be better person Just repeat a mistake and never admit they wrong, blitz, angel dusk and her gf angle to tell him they the one hurts them but they just stubborn to be listening a real reality they action

I don’t like Charlie for this exact reason + her being her typical happy annoying self 👎🏾

no excuse for inviting ex abuser when she knew it would Tigger him it beyond selfish and is infact the opposite of character growth and your dreams or goals shouldn't out way people your trying to help if it putting them in danger, Charlie can still be hero without self interest