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If Randle opts in, the Wolves can (while staying under the 2nd apron)... - Re-sign/extend ONE of Naz Reid and Nickeil Alexander-Walker If Randle opts out, the Wolves can (while staying under the 2nd apron)... - Re-sign/extend BOTH Naz Reid and Nickeil Alexander-Walker AND use the full, non-taxpayer midlevel... show more

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connor☂️1 年前

Randle opting in and TC leaving is a doomsday scenario for the franchise

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Vance Ginn1 年前

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John Quast1 年前

Dane, If Randle opts in would the Wolves then be able to trade him as an expiring contract this off-season or is it one of those contracts you can't trade till February 15th or something? Thanks

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Jake Brustuen1 年前

The one point I thought of when listening.... IF Julius opts in....Naz doesn't want to resign here for bench minutes again...

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🐸1 年前

This tweet will single-handedly turn the entire fan base against Randle. (Although much of the fan base already has turned)

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Casual Sports Fan1 年前

I think there is a genre of teams (not many) that you could move Randle to, not give up a first and maintain salary flexibility and those are play-in caliber teams that might look to make a push and one I have liked is Chicago And you mentioned ball as a potential MLE anyways

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Mr. 2571 年前

Not sure the wolves would be able to get a better player than Randle with that 14 mil, but I think they could definitely get someone that fits better with the team

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TWolves Takes1 年前

Damn no question, get him out of here

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HotKarlMalone1 年前

Very close to zero chance he doesn't opt in, no?

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WOLVESFAN1 年前

We have to trade him before the deadline. There is no way he doesn’t opt in to his current contract and the whole reason we traded KAT was to keep naz and naw.

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JimmyHughes1 年前

Also consider as of now we'd have the 15th overall pick.

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The Wolves let Nickeil Alexander-Walker go in the offseason — because they could not re-sign Julius Randle, Naz Reid and NAW without exceeding the 2nd apron for a second consecutive season. They’ve been needing a player like NAW since he departed, and Ayo Dosunmu was traded for to fill that void.

The Wolves let Nickeil Alexander-Walker go in the offseason — because they could not re-sign Julius Randle, Naz Reid and NAW without exceeding the 2nd apron for a second consecutive season. They’ve been needing a player like NAW since he departed, and Ayo Dosunmu was traded for to fill that void.

Dane Moore

46,352 次观看 • 5 个月前

There are two types of extensions Naz Reid can sign this summer... Option 1: Opt into his $15M player option, plus add 4 years and $94.2M 25-26: $15.0M 26-27: $21.0M 27-28: $22.7M 28-29: $24.4M 29-30: $26.0M (maybe a player option) Total: 5 years, $109.1M Option 2: Opt out of $15M player option, then sign a 4-year, $87.2M extension 25-26: $19.0M 26-27: $20.9M 27-28: $22.8M 28-29: $24.7M (maybe a player option) Total: 4 years, $87.2M I explained here how Reid taking option 1 opens up the door for the Wolves to keep all three of Reid, Julius Randle and Nickeil Alexander-Walker while staying under the 2nd apron. (Reid could also receive a bigger offer from Brooklyn or maybe even Detroit, if that's how those teams opt to use their cap space. He could also theoretically be a sign-and-trade candidate. But these are the options for the Wolves have to sign him to a long-term deal.)

There are two types of extensions Naz Reid can sign this summer... Option 1: Opt into his $15M player option, plus add 4 years and $94.2M 25-26: $15.0M 26-27: $21.0M 27-28: $22.7M 28-29: $24.4M 29-30: $26.0M (maybe a player option) Total: 5 years, $109.1M Option 2: Opt out of $15M player option, then sign a 4-year, $87.2M extension 25-26: $19.0M 26-27: $20.9M 27-28: $22.8M 28-29: $24.7M (maybe a player option) Total: 4 years, $87.2M I explained here how Reid taking option 1 opens up the door for the Wolves to keep all three of Reid, Julius Randle and Nickeil Alexander-Walker while staying under the 2nd apron. (Reid could also receive a bigger offer from Brooklyn or maybe even Detroit, if that's how those teams opt to use their cap space. He could also theoretically be a sign-and-trade candidate. But these are the options for the Wolves have to sign him to a long-term deal.)

Dane Moore

62,381 次观看 • 1 年前

The Wolves have nine players under contract next season for a total of $190M. That leaves about $30M in space beneath the 2nd apron. Functionally, and if ownership is willing to pay another hefty tax bill, that $30M is the Wolves spending power this summer to... - Re-sign Ayo Dosunmu - Re-sign their other free agents (Hyland, Conley, Anderson, Clark) - Make a player-for-player trade where they take back more money than they send out - Use tax MLE ($6M) to sign a free agent - Use $10.8M trade exception from Conley trade (but that would hard cap them at 1st apron, which is $13M below 2nd apron)

The Wolves have nine players under contract next season for a total of $190M. That leaves about $30M in space beneath the 2nd apron. Functionally, and if ownership is willing to pay another hefty tax bill, that $30M is the Wolves spending power this summer to... - Re-sign Ayo Dosunmu - Re-sign their other free agents (Hyland, Conley, Anderson, Clark) - Make a player-for-player trade where they take back more money than they send out - Use tax MLE ($6M) to sign a free agent - Use $10.8M trade exception from Conley trade (but that would hard cap them at 1st apron, which is $13M below 2nd apron)

Dane Moore

71,813 次观看 • 2 个月前

If the Wolves were able to have a cap space team (maybe Brooklyn or Chicago) absorb Julius Randle's contract next season ($33M), that would open up three interesting roster building tools I want to highlight. I think this is relevant because the Wolves front office has a history of kind of stringing together transactions -- even over the course of multiple transaction windows (offseason and trade deadline). The Randle trade would be Randle + draft compensation for say Brooklyn to absorb the contract - maybe: Randle + No. 28 for a future 2nd (Adjust compensation as you see fit. Not the point of this exercise. Obviously if this would cost a bunch, they wouldn't do it. Or maybe they'd have to move to using Gobert's salary as the salary moved into another team's cap space.) Shedding Randle's salary would drop the Wolves well below the *1st* apron (about $52M). And while beneath the 1st apron, the Wolves would open up the ability to three additional roster building tools for spending that $52M... (If Ayo Dosunmu were to sign for $17M, that would be $35M in room below the 1st apron. And need to make sure to get the roster to 14 players.) 1. The non-taxpayer midlevel exception ($15M) - The "big MLE" is a $15M gift card for teams to spend above the salary cap but below the 1st apron. So if the Wolves were to use this, they would be hard-capped at the 1st apron ($13M below 2nd apron). If a team is over the 1st apron, they only have access to the taxpayer or "mini MLE", which is $6M next season - Could go out and sign a free agent for up to $15M in starting salary - Could also use this $15M as a trade exception and trade for a player who makes up to $15M 2. The trade exception generated in the Mike Conley salary dump trade to Chicago ($10.77M) - A trade exception allows a team to trade for a player without sending back matching salary for up to the amount of the trade exception - So with access to this trade exception, the Wolves could trade for a player making up to $10.77M - Using a trade exception also hard caps a team at the 1st apron ($13M below 2nd apron) 3. Making a Randle trade to a team who absorbs his contract into cap space would also create another trade exception (up to $33M) - The size of that trade exception would be Randle's $33M, minus whatever the Wolves took back in the trade - Might not need that for spending this summer. But doesn't expire for 365 days. The downside of working below the 1st apron as opposed to the 2nd apron is it restricts overall spending power by $13M -- because that's the gap between the two aprons.

If the Wolves were able to have a cap space team (maybe Brooklyn or Chicago) absorb Julius Randle's contract next season ($33M), that would open up three interesting roster building tools I want to highlight. I think this is relevant because the Wolves front office has a history of kind of stringing together transactions -- even over the course of multiple transaction windows (offseason and trade deadline). The Randle trade would be Randle + draft compensation for say Brooklyn to absorb the contract - maybe: Randle + No. 28 for a future 2nd (Adjust compensation as you see fit. Not the point of this exercise. Obviously if this would cost a bunch, they wouldn't do it. Or maybe they'd have to move to using Gobert's salary as the salary moved into another team's cap space.) Shedding Randle's salary would drop the Wolves well below the 1st apron (about $52M). And while beneath the 1st apron, the Wolves would open up the ability to three additional roster building tools for spending that $52M... (If Ayo Dosunmu were to sign for $17M, that would be $35M in room below the 1st apron. And need to make sure to get the roster to 14 players.) 1. The non-taxpayer midlevel exception ($15M) - The "big MLE" is a $15M gift card for teams to spend above the salary cap but below the 1st apron. So if the Wolves were to use this, they would be hard-capped at the 1st apron ($13M below 2nd apron). If a team is over the 1st apron, they only have access to the taxpayer or "mini MLE", which is $6M next season - Could go out and sign a free agent for up to $15M in starting salary - Could also use this $15M as a trade exception and trade for a player who makes up to $15M 2. The trade exception generated in the Mike Conley salary dump trade to Chicago ($10.77M) - A trade exception allows a team to trade for a player without sending back matching salary for up to the amount of the trade exception - So with access to this trade exception, the Wolves could trade for a player making up to $10.77M - Using a trade exception also hard caps a team at the 1st apron ($13M below 2nd apron) 3. Making a Randle trade to a team who absorbs his contract into cap space would also create another trade exception (up to $33M) - The size of that trade exception would be Randle's $33M, minus whatever the Wolves took back in the trade - Might not need that for spending this summer. But doesn't expire for 365 days. The downside of working below the 1st apron as opposed to the 2nd apron is it restricts overall spending power by $13M -- because that's the gap between the two aprons.

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Asked Rudy Gobert about the value of having more depth for the playoff push and if he sees similarities between what Nickeil Alexander-Walker brought and what Ayo Dosunmu can bring. "Nickeil was impacting the game every night for us and I think it's gonna be the same for Ayo on both ends of the floor. They don't have the same skillset, but they both are gonna impact our team in a positive way every night. Now we just need to look at the market and look if there's a 38 year-old point guard that can help us."

Asked Rudy Gobert about the value of having more depth for the playoff push and if he sees similarities between what Nickeil Alexander-Walker brought and what Ayo Dosunmu can bring. "Nickeil was impacting the game every night for us and I think it's gonna be the same for Ayo on both ends of the floor. They don't have the same skillset, but they both are gonna impact our team in a positive way every night. Now we just need to look at the market and look if there's a 38 year-old point guard that can help us."

Dane Moore

107,060 次观看 • 5 个月前

Messed around with the Giannis trade package that The Athletic said Milwaukee would be interested in from Minnesota... - Jaden McDaniels - Naz Reid - Terrence Shannon Jr. - No. 28 pick in 2026 draft - Wolves 2033 1st round pick And what becomes clear is that the money doesn't work and neither does what remains of the roster. So my point is, even if the Wolves want to agree to that asking price, to make their money and roster work, additional and roster reconstruction would still need to be done -- by trading at least one of Julius Randle or Rudy Gobert, all while navigating the aprons.

Messed around with the Giannis trade package that The Athletic said Milwaukee would be interested in from Minnesota... - Jaden McDaniels - Naz Reid - Terrence Shannon Jr. - No. 28 pick in 2026 draft - Wolves 2033 1st round pick And what becomes clear is that the money doesn't work and neither does what remains of the roster. So my point is, even if the Wolves want to agree to that asking price, to make their money and roster work, additional and roster reconstruction would still need to be done -- by trading at least one of Julius Randle or Rudy Gobert, all while navigating the aprons.

Dane Moore

43,552 次观看 • 1 个月前

Nickeil Alexander-Walker on the support he’s gotten from his neighbors and Wolves fans “It means a lot… in my neighborhood a lot of the fans have made up signs, did balloons, I came home and they had chalk on the concrete… so I just want to say thank you to everybody and I really appreciate it. When they do small jesters like that, take time out of their day, like they had a sign and it was going to rain, so they put a bag over the sign and like that takes time, that takes care, I definitely appreciate that”

Nickeil Alexander-Walker on the support he’s gotten from his neighbors and Wolves fans “It means a lot… in my neighborhood a lot of the fans have made up signs, did balloons, I came home and they had chalk on the concrete… so I just want to say thank you to everybody and I really appreciate it. When they do small jesters like that, take time out of their day, like they had a sign and it was going to rain, so they put a bag over the sign and like that takes time, that takes care, I definitely appreciate that”

Andrew Dukowitz

246,294 次观看 • 1 年前

The Wolves salary dumped Mike Conley's $10.8M contract at the trade deadline. These were the functional salary cap-related values to the Wolves in making that trade... - The trade got them below the 1st apron, which gave them the ability to take back more money in a subsequent trade (because you can't be over the 1st apron and take back more money than you send out in a trade). Technically, they took back more money in the Ayo Dosunmu trade, because it included Julian Phillips and his contract. But if you remember, the Conley trade happened two days before the deadline. They made the move in advance to open up the possibility of taking back more money in a trade for an expensive star (potentially Giannis). That was the theoretical value there, much more than it was about the value of bringing in Phillips. - They saved a lot of money on the luxury tax bill after paying nearly $100M in luxury tax for being above the 2nd apron the season before. - They created a $10.8M trade exception that they can use to absorb up to $10.8M in salary without sending money back. But using a trade exception hard caps you at the 1st apron and only lasts for 12 months. - Got off Rob Dillingham's contract that is set to pay him $6.9M this coming season and $8.8M the following season. This creates some space beneath the aprons that they could need if they are to re-sign Ayo Dosunmu. Also created another $6.6M trade exception when doing the Dillingham-Dosunmu trade, because the Wolves absorbed Dosunmu into the Alexander-Walker trade exception from last summer ($7.6M NAW trade exception, and Dosunmu made $7.5M). Transacting this way hard-capped the Wolves at the 1st apron, but at that point in time the deadline was about to pass, they weren't trading for Giannis or anyone else, meaning there was no cost to being hard-capped at the 1st apron for the rest of the season. (Though that could impact a draft night trade, I believe -- because that's the same calendar year.) - The 21st picks salary this season ($3.9M) is $800k higher than the 28th picks salary this coming season ($3.1M). So while that player should be more valuable, that player would also carry a bigger cap hit. What it cost them was a pick swap with Detroit in this draft -- moving them back from pick 21 to pick 28 in the 1st round. So I asked Tyler Metcalf how much value the Wolves gave up in this draft by moving back from 21 to 28.

The Wolves salary dumped Mike Conley's $10.8M contract at the trade deadline. These were the functional salary cap-related values to the Wolves in making that trade... - The trade got them below the 1st apron, which gave them the ability to take back more money in a subsequent trade (because you can't be over the 1st apron and take back more money than you send out in a trade). Technically, they took back more money in the Ayo Dosunmu trade, because it included Julian Phillips and his contract. But if you remember, the Conley trade happened two days before the deadline. They made the move in advance to open up the possibility of taking back more money in a trade for an expensive star (potentially Giannis). That was the theoretical value there, much more than it was about the value of bringing in Phillips. - They saved a lot of money on the luxury tax bill after paying nearly $100M in luxury tax for being above the 2nd apron the season before. - They created a $10.8M trade exception that they can use to absorb up to $10.8M in salary without sending money back. But using a trade exception hard caps you at the 1st apron and only lasts for 12 months. - Got off Rob Dillingham's contract that is set to pay him $6.9M this coming season and $8.8M the following season. This creates some space beneath the aprons that they could need if they are to re-sign Ayo Dosunmu. Also created another $6.6M trade exception when doing the Dillingham-Dosunmu trade, because the Wolves absorbed Dosunmu into the Alexander-Walker trade exception from last summer ($7.6M NAW trade exception, and Dosunmu made $7.5M). Transacting this way hard-capped the Wolves at the 1st apron, but at that point in time the deadline was about to pass, they weren't trading for Giannis or anyone else, meaning there was no cost to being hard-capped at the 1st apron for the rest of the season. (Though that could impact a draft night trade, I believe -- because that's the same calendar year.) - The 21st picks salary this season ($3.9M) is $800k higher than the 28th picks salary this coming season ($3.1M). So while that player should be more valuable, that player would also carry a bigger cap hit. What it cost them was a pick swap with Detroit in this draft -- moving them back from pick 21 to pick 28 in the 1st round. So I asked Tyler Metcalf how much value the Wolves gave up in this draft by moving back from 21 to 28.

Dane Moore

59,064 次观看 • 1 个月前

I think a big part of the Minnesota fanbase's connection to Naz Reid is about the many Naz Reid's of Timberwolves past that never became anything. If you actually decided to spend/waste time on the Wolves from 2008 to 2018, what fueled that experience was watching obscure players and, perhaps naively, thinking they could become so much more than they were reasonably expected to become. (Anthony Randolph and Alexey Shved were two of mine.) Naz Reid, who went undrafted in 2019, was the first obscure Wolves player to actually hit. And I think that's why -- especially the people who were watching those games for that dark decade -- fell in love with Reid.

I think a big part of the Minnesota fanbase's connection to Naz Reid is about the many Naz Reid's of Timberwolves past that never became anything. If you actually decided to spend/waste time on the Wolves from 2008 to 2018, what fueled that experience was watching obscure players and, perhaps naively, thinking they could become so much more than they were reasonably expected to become. (Anthony Randolph and Alexey Shved were two of mine.) Naz Reid, who went undrafted in 2019, was the first obscure Wolves player to actually hit. And I think that's why -- especially the people who were watching those games for that dark decade -- fell in love with Reid.

Dane Moore

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Nickeil Alexander-Walker on his potential return "I'll never burn a bridge. — This is the only place I've had a real opportunity to play and be the best version of myself. — There's no way that I'm gonna go into the off-season and X-out in Minnesota. That'd be crazy."

Nickeil Alexander-Walker on his potential return "I'll never burn a bridge. — This is the only place I've had a real opportunity to play and be the best version of myself. — There's no way that I'm gonna go into the off-season and X-out in Minnesota. That'd be crazy."

Jonah

355,436 次观看 • 1 年前

Asked Chris Finch about the adjustment in Mike Conley's role this season and what that process has been like. In his answer he talked a bit about the rotation big picture "We're getting up to the point here where we might even shrink the rotation a little bit smaller, and then everybody (who plays) minutes will level out". For context, the Wolves have been playing a 10-man rotation for most of the season, but with the 9th and 10th guys often playing between 4 and 8 total minutes. So I read that as the leveling out coming in the form of removing one guy so everyone who plays is receiving 10+ minutes a night. These were the 10 players who played tonight while the Wolves were at full-strength Gobert Randle McDaniels (got hurt tonight) Edwards DiVincenzo Reid Conley Hyland Shannon Clark (Rob Dillingham has not been in the 10-man rotation of late when the Wolves are at full-strength.)

Asked Chris Finch about the adjustment in Mike Conley's role this season and what that process has been like. In his answer he talked a bit about the rotation big picture "We're getting up to the point here where we might even shrink the rotation a little bit smaller, and then everybody (who plays) minutes will level out". For context, the Wolves have been playing a 10-man rotation for most of the season, but with the 9th and 10th guys often playing between 4 and 8 total minutes. So I read that as the leveling out coming in the form of removing one guy so everyone who plays is receiving 10+ minutes a night. These were the 10 players who played tonight while the Wolves were at full-strength Gobert Randle McDaniels (got hurt tonight) Edwards DiVincenzo Reid Conley Hyland Shannon Clark (Rob Dillingham has not been in the 10-man rotation of late when the Wolves are at full-strength.)

Dane Moore

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