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If the developers are able to censor Bitcoin, then they will become required to censor Bitcoin. The knots protocol is dangerous.

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zippy11 months ago

Filters have been used since the beginning. They were not a threat then, and they are not a threat now. The term “censorship-resistance” refers to the fact that anyone can transact. It doesn’t mean add arbitrary non-monetary data.

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Sasha Hodder11 months ago

If miners/nodes can coordinate to exclude a class of transactions, that’s censorship in principle. And once the norm becomes “we filter X,” the scope of X can expand under pressure. So even “filters for good reasons” create a censorship surface.

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dewmap11 months ago

This is a ridiculous statement, try to figure it out. Here is a hint stupid...

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Cato The Elder11 months ago

It’s dangerous only to the financial health of your practice. He’s wrong - if you prune the OP_R Returns you can’t run an archival node that would allow bootstrapping new nodes. And decentralization would be compromised.

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Kevin Stelmach11 months ago

Respectfully you’re married to a tap root wizard, might want to sit this one out.

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Richard “Dick” Whitman (🌎/21M)11 months ago

Just stop

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Jason Cassidy - World's Top Bitcoin Satologist11 months ago

The Final Boss showed this video to a few of my friends who dabble in #crypto via #Bitcoin. Andreas saying this basically convinced all three of my friends that 'Whoever Knots people are, they are likely pedo's and should be banned from Bitcoin". Andrea's did his job very well.

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Sasha Hodder11 months ago

He was amazing in the early days! I listened to him for many hours! (till he went off track with the mastering eth stuff).

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Dario Rivas11 months ago

@FollowJay Is this the I love Eth book author. Im bitcoin only.

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Sasha Hodder11 months ago

@FollowJay

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Jason Cassidy - World's Top Bitcoin Satologist11 months ago

@RubenOr34985586 Account based systems are inferior to UTXO-based for a litany of reasons. #BTC is seeing its day in the sun after a decade of innovation was stifled so a litany of low-value chains could pop up and grift the public. Also, Little Nicky and Turning completeness..

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magic77711 months ago

There’s a better solution, one that doesn’t even involve censorship at all. Fix ALL bugs in the Bitcoin code that allow non-monetary data in a transaction. That approach was submitted by @lukedashjr two years ago and REJECTED by Core as “too controversial”. 🤔

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Joe11 months ago

Seems to me that Knots is an attempt to save Bitcoin from its inevitable abandonment when CSAM gets locked into the Bitcoin blockchain, forcing every node runner to then host CSAM 🫣

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Dimitri-H 🇧🇪11 months ago

@440UrPp Censorship has always been part of Bitcoin in regatds to transaction relay. Only the blockchain itself is immutable and censorship resistant. Filters on consensus and policy restrict data relay so less JPEG's bloat the chain.

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Tomasz Kaczorowski #XBT #BTC #Bitcoin11 months ago

The author of “Mastering Ethereum” has spoken… Feel sorry that this legend is no longer serving humanity well.

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Sasha Hodder11 months ago

Nick was pro eth too

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Sasha Hodder11 months ago

Nick liked eth too

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kelo11 months ago

Good thing bitcoin is censorship resistant. And even 80-90% running knots wont do anything to censor txs that have economic demand.

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E. Krediet11 months ago

“Paying the fee” makes a non-monetary Bitcoin transaction (spam/CSAM) not more valid than paying postage makes junkmail valid. Paid or not, it's still junkmail, so that’s why we have spamfilters. There is only one "valid" use of Bitcoin: money. It’s NOT a general database.

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Rory11 months ago

@adam3us Retarded.

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Sovereign Individual11 months ago

Disincentivizing retarded shitcoinery is not censorship, it's efficiency

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Nero11 months ago

If developers are able to change Bitcoin to whatever they want, then we are not sovereign with an immutable form of money.

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william cooper11 months ago

I noticed most agreeing you are "crypto" and "eth" people

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Sasha Hodder11 months ago

lol

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LLL1311 months ago

The legend himself! Hey Sasha can I ask please, was this recent from Andreas?

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Sasha Hodder11 months ago

I think so, it was on his patreon

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d.fenestrator11 months ago

Bitcoin is a monetary network. Not some place to post your boob pics, woman.

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Malachi11 months ago

Preserving intended usecase != censorship. For the nth time, a reasonable OP_RETURN would have been acceptable for everybody. Core's behavior is dangerous. His point about pruning also doesn't make sense. Without archival nodes you wouldn't have a blockchain anymore.

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Tom Dobridge11 months ago

Really getting sick of if this hyperbolic censorisp altruism bs.

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MyBrainHz - #XBT11 months ago

Bitcoin requires core to censor it from spam. Bitcoin needs to remain uncensorable money, but spam bloat can frustrate Bitcoin's main purpose by filling blocks with non financial TX's. So, we will frutrate the spam, not the other way around. #RunningKnots

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shin11 months ago

Yes. #NotKnots

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The Disciple11 months ago

You don’t even know what the protocol does. Try harder.

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JOQUE11 months ago

"One person's spam is another person's content." Nah. GTFO.

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₿lackthorne AI11 months ago

Luke is certifiably batshit. #NotKnots

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Tal Shmuel Harel11 months ago

oh wow haven't seen Andreas in while. legend.

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ellipsoidrope11 months ago

Not even a possibility. It’s FOSS.

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Megamaru11 months ago

"Censor" in this case is only about random data that has nothing to do with financial or economic transaction data... Fucking hell, there is already a pornhub and a dark web for weirdos, I refuse to let my node host CSAM, fuck you.

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Beachguy90411 months ago

Who is this guy?

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Dena Lunsford11 months ago

@adam3us Hello handsome

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Gavin Mehl11 months ago

@cryptorebel_SV you may want to quote what Antonoplis calls bible vs here...

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boozy | XBT10 months ago

"Spam is subjective" "Knotzis." Where else have we heard these kinds of things? These CoreTards will not listen to logic or reasoning. They need to just leave bitcoin, and make their own spam-ridden, CP blockchain.

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