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In a nutshell, why Murray wins on substance. "Maybe I'm being a LITTLE hyperbolic.. MAYBE" Rather than defend him, Smith and Rogan collapse and pretend Cooper had been "just kidding" and "joking around." Was he joking? Watch the side-by-side and make up your own mind. And I'm NOT attacking...

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realm47vor 1 Jahr

You could win a debate with Dave Smith, but I don't see how you could possibly think that Murray won this one. He didn't even know Darryl's name, and had never listened to any of his content. And kept confusing him with Ian and others. He had no idea what he was talking about.

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Ancaptainvor 1 Jahr

So let's ignore that he literally says he's being hyperbolic to prod at his friend and instead assume he is saying exactly what you imply. Can you connect the dots for me to how this is dangerous? And be specific.

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Marty Milliganvor 1 Jahr

For fuck sake, this world class gaslighting. Coopers point is that Churchill made a string of terrible decisions that made matters worse and drove escalation. This has been a completely reasonable position for fifty years. Murray's response was that he disagreed with it because he thinks it holds Churchill to too high of a standard because he couldn't know what would happen. The entire point of the exercise is to look at the decisions and see what happened and if there were better alternatives.

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Lazarus Longvor 1 Jahr

Get a grip dude. He says right there he’s also trying to provoke Jocko. Everyone needs to chill. Just wait until the podcast comes out my god.

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Noam Dwormanvor 1 Jahr

Let's not bullshit, huh? Yes he says he was being a "little hyperbolic... maybe," but OBVIOUSLY that doesn't mean he doesn't agree with the point, or that he's "joking around" or is not a Churchill detractor. He doesn't even commit to it being hyperbole ("maybe").

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Jabronski 📟vor 1 Jahr

When it was just Dave and Rogan in the room a few episodes earlier, they agreed enthusiastically with each other that it was a joke, but also insisted that it is a true and correct piece of historical analysis. So it's only a joke when being held up to scrutiny...

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AdAstraPerAspergersvor 1 Jahr

Yet you, Noam, absurdly say that Dave "knows way more about this stuff than [you] do." No, if what he says is false, he gets no credit for "knowing." He's either lying or he doesn't know wtf he's talking about. Stop giving him the benefit of non-existent doubt.

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Dijuan Rolandasvor 1 Jahr

The more I see @ShallyWalk the performance is unreal. Adjusted my strategy based on his approach, Pulled in $160K in profits.

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P Breit 🇺🇸vor 1 Jahr

It really wasn’t even close. Murray did not produce (m)any arguments that weren’t fallacies, misrepresentations or strawmen.

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Tucker Qatarlsonvor 1 Jahr

He was trolling, but not joking.

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This! At 1st I thought he was being playful but from close up view he wasn't smiling instead there was this softness in him. He even did it twice w/o zy's knowledge which wudn't be the case if he was just joking. And to say, it was just a day after zy got heatstroke on set 🥹
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The moment the police pursued and caught a man running from them, they asked why he was fleeing. He replied that he just didn't want any 'wahala' (trouble) with them. As they began searching him, shouting, 'Where did you keep the Cana?', they took his phone while his girlfriend was calling. When a policeman picked up the call, the young man asked, 'Why are you answering my phone?', to which they replied by slapping him and dragging him into their vehicle.
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The moment the police pursued and caught a man running from them, they asked why he was fleeing. He replied that he just didn't want any 'wahala' (trouble) with them. As they began searching him, shouting, 'Where did you keep the Cana?', they took his phone while his girlfriend was calling. When a policeman picked up the call, the young man asked, 'Why are you answering my phone?', to which they replied by slapping him and dragging him into their vehicle.

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📱Darina.kudrina's Instagram story about her visit to the set of BizeBiŞeyOlmaz, we appreciate her honesty 🫂🤍 "Friends, I'm telling you about my meeting with Mert. This wasn't just a photo. Finally, the moment he had waited and desired had arrived I wanted to chat with him. Just be by his side for a while, talk, and get a feel for what kind of person he is. How does he communicate, what are his facial expressions, etc.? In general, today is an absolutely unexpected end to the walk. This is a meeting with Mert, They were filming a series. I even got to see a bit of how they filmed the scene. We remained very obedient and didn't interfere with the filming. We didn't record anything with our phones. We stood there and watched And Mert saw him I mean, he saw, he was looking right at us Across the street we stood like that. And security saw that we were not interfering with the process. When the filming was over and they put a gown on him, they walked him to the caravans. I just walked alongside her in parallel, As you know, the case is almost accidental. There was security, but today there was another one. The famous Kingfisher guard was not there. I was walking parallel and at some point the path cleared. He got free and I just went back to him, I called him "Mr. Mert" I said, 'Hi, I'm from Russia,' and he stood there and said hello to me. And as you know, he let his guard down and came up to me. I said you have a minute, can I take a picture? He says something like yeah, well, just wait a second and that's it. I said, okay, I'll wait. He went to the trailer and changed his clothes and got out. and he called me and said, "Come here." And he took his signature selfie. #MertRamazanDemir MertRamazanDemir
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📱Darina.kudrina's Instagram story about her visit to the set of BizeBiŞeyOlmaz, we appreciate her honesty 🫂🤍 "Friends, I'm telling you about my meeting with Mert. This wasn't just a photo. Finally, the moment he had waited and desired had arrived I wanted to chat with him. Just be by his side for a while, talk, and get a feel for what kind of person he is. How does he communicate, what are his facial expressions, etc.? In general, today is an absolutely unexpected end to the walk. This is a meeting with Mert, They were filming a series. I even got to see a bit of how they filmed the scene. We remained very obedient and didn't interfere with the filming. We didn't record anything with our phones. We stood there and watched And Mert saw him I mean, he saw, he was looking right at us Across the street we stood like that. And security saw that we were not interfering with the process. When the filming was over and they put a gown on him, they walked him to the caravans. I just walked alongside her in parallel, As you know, the case is almost accidental. There was security, but today there was another one. The famous Kingfisher guard was not there. I was walking parallel and at some point the path cleared. He got free and I just went back to him, I called him "Mr. Mert" I said, 'Hi, I'm from Russia,' and he stood there and said hello to me. And as you know, he let his guard down and came up to me. I said you have a minute, can I take a picture? He says something like yeah, well, just wait a second and that's it. I said, okay, I'll wait. He went to the trailer and changed his clothes and got out. and he called me and said, "Come here." And he took his signature selfie. #MertRamazanDemir MertRamazanDemir

Mert Ramazan Demir World FC

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After this man spent over $300 at his local store. When he was leaving the store they asked to see his receipt, he declined. So they detained him and called the police. The police came and took his cart away from him and was pushing it back to the store. After they were going to arrest him for not leaving, he finally, finally shows the receipt and they let him take his stuff he bought. Usually if they ask to see it and you refuse, it’s not a huge deal. But in this instance he had many high priced items not in bags, you can see just the boxes in the cart. Maybe put a sign at the door that you will be checked if items over a certain dollar amount isn’t in a bag, would that be reasonable?
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After this man spent over $300 at his local store. When he was leaving the store they asked to see his receipt, he declined. So they detained him and called the police. The police came and took his cart away from him and was pushing it back to the store. After they were going to arrest him for not leaving, he finally, finally shows the receipt and they let him take his stuff he bought. Usually if they ask to see it and you refuse, it’s not a huge deal. But in this instance he had many high priced items not in bags, you can see just the boxes in the cart. Maybe put a sign at the door that you will be checked if items over a certain dollar amount isn’t in a bag, would that be reasonable?

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Asmongold shares the craziest story about his dad's first marriage and how it ended "My dad's first wife was a crazy fucking bitch. He woke up and it was wet, it was her blood. She had been cutting herself in the bed with him. He just got home from a 12 hour shift." "The last time he saw that bitch was when they were wheeling her away to the mental institution with the bar doors. He waved her goodbye and said that's it, I'm done." "One time we were going out for barbecue and she calls him screaming. He just hangs up. I'm like who's that? He's like, I don't know. You ready to go? Yeah I'm ready to go."
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Asmongold shares the craziest story about his dad's first marriage and how it ended "My dad's first wife was a crazy fucking bitch. He woke up and it was wet, it was her blood. She had been cutting herself in the bed with him. He just got home from a 12 hour shift." "The last time he saw that bitch was when they were wheeling her away to the mental institution with the bar doors. He waved her goodbye and said that's it, I'm done." "One time we were going out for barbecue and she calls him screaming. He just hangs up. I'm like who's that? He's like, I don't know. You ready to go? Yeah I'm ready to go."

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