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In August 2021, Osterholm sent a group text (explicitly to avoid FOIA issues) about how cloth masks don't work to Fauci, Walensky, and others. Here's the question to Psaki about Osterholm's prior comments that prompted this text. It was related to a DeSantis EO banning mask mandates for school... show more

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And wasn't it Osterholm and other members of CIDRAP who were an early source of pushback against COVID nonsense until one day everyone but him went radio dark and he was suddenly singing a different tune?

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Kelley Kvor 2 Monaten

Yep.

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TenRelosvor 2 Monaten

i cant see his name w/o posting his classic anti-flu-vax rant in the NY Times way back in 2012, a more medically honest era

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Kelley Kvor 2 Monaten

My favorite is this:

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Justin Hartvor 2 Monaten

Nice find!

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Kelley Kvor 2 Monaten

I had to track down what made him fire off that lengthy text. Psaki totally threw him under the bus, saying he was just one expert and good for him, but that the federal government experts knew better. LOL

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dcnhvor 2 Monaten

Will someone get her to circle back to that and see if she was lying or lied to?

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Chrisvor 2 Monaten

If I recall, Osterholm wanted a shift from cloth masks to mandatory n95s for all. He was a big part of the whole problem.

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Kelley Kvor 2 Monaten

I don't recall if Osterholm wanted an actual N95 mandate, but he was definitely pushing N95 masks. Meanwhile, CDC and the Biden admin kept insisting, without evidence, that forcing kids to wear cloth masks was a critical public health measure.

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MPvor 2 Monaten

What’s insane is she’s literally standing there with NO MASK

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Kevin Stewartvor 2 Monaten

Osterholm was pretty clear on his own podcast that cloth masks were useless… Avoiding FOIA was for recipient’s benefit presumably. Although devious and wrong.

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Kelley Kvor 2 Monaten

Yes, and that's what Psaki was being asked about. Because we certainly weren't mandating N95s for school children. The CDC and govt experts were still pretending like cloth masks were very important for school children to be wearing all day, every day in class.

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elvin johnvor 2 Monaten

the type of harm people like Fauci, Biden and @jrpsaki did during that time is unimaginable. Don't know if we will ever get justice for what they did to our country.

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While not wearing one herself.

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Rootvor 2 Monaten

I watched this live and wondered why Psaki got a mask exemption? It was always rules for thee and not for me with this crowd.

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Carlihuahuavor 2 Monaten

They genuinely believe we are all barely functioning idiots.

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Alvaroidzvor 2 Monaten

NBD Psaki. Proud Toddler Muzzler.

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Que minus the BarBvor 2 Monaten

@TheGeorgiaChief @jrpsaki guess what? You are just as culpable for spreading lies…

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Mike Antenuccivor 2 Monaten

I share this often: cloth masks given to employers by the state of Ohio. I received two boxes of these useless things. An early red flag that we were not dealing with serious people

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Rusty Kuhlvor 2 Monaten

I’m just curious was there ever and official change in stance like she says here by the dept of education or others that masks were no longer needed or did it all just quietly go away because of leader like RDS who were doing the right things?

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Kelley Kvor 2 Monaten

The CDC did eventually drop recommendations for school masking, but based it on the end of the PH emergency iirc, as opposed to a recognition that it was ineffective, and they pivoted to "high-quality" masks for anyone (including school children) who want to stay "protected."

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Rusty Kuhlvor 2 Monaten

And that’s why you should never consent to new things “for a short period of time” or “for an emergency”…there was never a plan to end it or stop what they were doing.

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Warner olivervor 2 Monaten

Michael Osterholm was an absolute legend before Covid only to be silenced and surpassed by egomaniacal Fauci and his Flying Monkeys

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ScienceGuardiansvor 2 Monaten

Bombshell claim meets documented reality 👇

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Sudha Lakshmivor 2 Monaten

Whatever one thinks of Osterholm, at least he got it right on masks. And of course the #Masks4All thugs went after him for that.

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Gaelic Storm 🇺🇸vor 2 Monaten

Jail For Pstupid

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OCwaves🌊vor 2 Monaten

@jrpsaki @PsakiBriefing #neverforget

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Ruth Hallvor 2 Monaten

This was an attempt to control the citizens making it easier to overthrow the government

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Vlad Impalervor 2 Monaten

This witch should be rotting in prison

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twk4usavor 2 Monaten

The Media was willing partners! Especially pathological liar, Sakoshit

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SunDevil Donvor 2 Monaten

Psaki psucked

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OpinionsInFluxvor 2 Monaten

He says they offer limited benefit, not that they don’t work at all. I read his text to say a cloth mask is better than nothing but that N95 masks are what should be recommended because they offer significantly greater protection.

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Kelley Kvor 2 Monaten

Osterholm said cloth masks offer "very limited protection," meanwhile the CDC was recommending mask mandates in schools across the country, which were overwhelmingly cloth masks. CDC kept pretending that all those Paw Patrol and Old Navy masks were critical for public health.

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daledwayervor 2 Monaten

Shame on you @jrpsaki

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#USAvor 2 Monaten

Were factcheckers working back then? @ddale8 @cnn

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Patrick Josephvor 2 Monaten

SUE her

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Holly Wilsonvor 2 Monaten

@erichhartmann @jrpsaki is a liar and should be fired immediately

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Jennifer Levequevor 2 Monaten

🤯

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Daniel Hsu 🗝️vor 2 Monaten

The Fourth Seal Revelation 6(8) is a GREEN horse. And who is the rider? 😆

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Vaughn Misesvor 2 Monaten

@erichhartmann Osterholm was wrong about a lot of things but correct on this point

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Hollos1120vor 2 Monaten

This is ludicrous, just look at this, it was ok for Psaki not to wear a mask. WTF were we all thinking

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Dr. Tracy Høeg (Tracy Beth Høeg, MD, PhD) tells Congress that the highest quality scientific evidence has consistently shown that masks do not work, school closures were not necessary, and six feet of distancing was not based on science: "We've had evidence prior to the pandemic that masks were largely ineffective at preventing community transmission of influenza and other upper respiratory viruses, and we did not obtain any new high-quality evidence during COVID-19 that masks are an effective mitigation strategy. We have several confounded observational studies, many of which were actually published by the CDC, that have severe flaws in them, that unfortunately led people to believe that masking children was going to be effective and necessary to keep children in schools. But the highest quality data we have, for example, from a Cochrane review of randomized studies, has not found evidence that masks are effective. It wasn't science-based, and the six feet of distance was arbitrary... We should have by default kept our schools open, but instead, we required non-evidence-based mitigation strategies as a prerequisite for getting our children back into school."

Dr. Tracy Høeg (Tracy Beth Høeg, MD, PhD) tells Congress that the highest quality scientific evidence has consistently shown that masks do not work, school closures were not necessary, and six feet of distancing was not based on science: "We've had evidence prior to the pandemic that masks were largely ineffective at preventing community transmission of influenza and other upper respiratory viruses, and we did not obtain any new high-quality evidence during COVID-19 that masks are an effective mitigation strategy. We have several confounded observational studies, many of which were actually published by the CDC, that have severe flaws in them, that unfortunately led people to believe that masking children was going to be effective and necessary to keep children in schools. But the highest quality data we have, for example, from a Cochrane review of randomized studies, has not found evidence that masks are effective. It wasn't science-based, and the six feet of distance was arbitrary... We should have by default kept our schools open, but instead, we required non-evidence-based mitigation strategies as a prerequisite for getting our children back into school."

KanekoaTheGreat

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🚨 FLORIDA GOV. RON DESANTIS JUST NOW: "A pandemic is like the Super Bowl for somebody [like Fauci!] And yet he was WRONG about lockdowns. He was WRONG about masks. He was WRONG about school closures. He made up the six foot social distancing. He was wrong about demanding restaurants be closed!" "And so this is the Super Bowl. This is what you live for in that field. And he was wrong about all those things!" "I know that firsthand, because I was clashing with him on all of those issues in those early months of COVID, he would come down to Florida and do TV hits on local news attacking me for mandating that schools be open." "And he would come in for allowing restaurants to function and all this other stuff." "He would even host conference calls with mayors and counties as a way to circumvent our policies and to impose mandates. And we BLOCKED IT." 🔥

🚨 FLORIDA GOV. RON DESANTIS JUST NOW: "A pandemic is like the Super Bowl for somebody [like Fauci!] And yet he was WRONG about lockdowns. He was WRONG about masks. He was WRONG about school closures. He made up the six foot social distancing. He was wrong about demanding restaurants be closed!" "And so this is the Super Bowl. This is what you live for in that field. And he was wrong about all those things!" "I know that firsthand, because I was clashing with him on all of those issues in those early months of COVID, he would come down to Florida and do TV hits on local news attacking me for mandating that schools be open." "And he would come in for allowing restaurants to function and all this other stuff." "He would even host conference calls with mayors and counties as a way to circumvent our policies and to impose mandates. And we BLOCKED IT." 🔥

Eric Daugherty

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