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Is math something humans invent—or something we discover? And why does it describe the universe so uncannily well? In this episode of Uncommon Knowledge, Peter Robinson sits down with mathematicians David Berlinski, Sergiu Klainerman, and Stephen C. Meyer to explore one of the deepest mysteries in science and philosophy:... show more
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@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer Fascinating. Great beauty and mystery lays in Fibonacci sequence and golden ratio too. How is that possible if not a divine concept.

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer God created man, and henceforth man endeavoured to explain what he observed

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer Our world exists beyond our forms of perception, which is mainly material. Philosophy tries to consider all possible factors but math(science) considers only the factors we can perceive. Hence it’s rather a discovery than an invention. It’s our highest form of consciousness.😂

@Jon_Hartley_ @p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer These discussions are always an embarrassment.

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer @BenBayer : fascinating study case: a mystic, an agnostic and a septic in the same room !

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer As an engineer with some math background, I was in awe of the minds at the table. Then I wondered if I would feel the same awe if they were AI avatars. I think I felt it because I could relate to them as human minds. Where are we heading?

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer nah, I'm good

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer Thank you all for this!

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer of course objectivism compel to allegiance !

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@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer I liked the discussion. Concerning the role of God I would like to quote what Laplace said to Napoleon about his book on celestial mechanics and the need for God: je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothese

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer Language is something humans invented, so they can have silly conversations about math.

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Peter...uncommon indeed! The average high school graduate can barely read and write, and this group ponders esoteric mathematics.

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer Cannot wait to see this! I have to wait until morning though.

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer Uncommon Knowledge is the only production that redeems Hoover.

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer "The consistency of the hole is not an axiom at all" it is a pure whim. "Existence exists", "Consciousness is conscious" and "A is A" are the fundamental axioms of metaphysics.

@p_m_robinson @StephenCMeyer 2+2=4 is interesting in our being certain of it - as a tool in making sense (our sense) of the universe - & projected it on the world. Later we ascertained the sameness of units - two ducks & not 1 hill + 1 duck unless acknowledged the difference & accepted it. It is just a tool.

