Is once saved always saved? How will Peter answer?

The sin unto death is refusing salvation. A believer can loose fellowship, usefulness, testimony, reward and even be chastened. But can never lose salvation. The prodigal son lost his place but never lost his sonship.

Salvation is a birth, not a contract. Jesus said, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." (John 3:6) Can you become unborn? No. You can change your name, deny your family, and never speak to your parents again, but you cannot remove their DNA from your body. The same is true of the new birth, hence why Jesus used birth to describe it to Nicodemus. The moment you believed, your dead spirit was made alive. You were sealed with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13–14). That seal is God's guarantee, not yours. Can your weakness break God's seal? Can your unbelief erase God's DNA? Can a man make everlasting life temporary? No. Your mind still needs renewal. An unrenewed believer may live carnally, remain immature, or fail to enjoy all that is theirs in Christ, but none of those things undo the new birth. Peter denied Jesus before the cross, before the resurrection, and before the Holy Spirit came to indwell believers. The New Covenant had not yet begun. "But what about those who walked away?" John already answered that "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us." (1 John 2:19) Their leaving didn't prove salvation was lost. It revealed they never truly belonged. Grace doesn't make people run from Christ. Grace reveals Christ, and seeing Him is what transforms us (Titus 2:11–12; 2 Corinthians 3:18).

I think we need to be careful as believers, and especially as ministers of the gospel, not to create theological categories that Scripture itself does not create in an attempt to balance the warning passages with the assurance passages. For example, what does it mean to say, "A Christian can lose his salvation, but he will not because God will keep him"? That may sound balanced at first hearing, but on closer examination it creates a theological contradiction rather than resolving one. Either a truly regenerate believer can finally perish, or he cannot. There is no meaningful middle ground. If God has promised to preserve those who are truly His, then the question of whether they can finally be lost has already been answered by God's own saving work. The true biblical balance is not that a believer can be lost but will not be. The biblical balance is that those who are truly saved are truly kept, while those who finally abandon Christ prove that their faith was never saving faith in the first place. Jesus said: “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” John 10:27–28 This is not weak assurance. This is the promise of the Shepherd. Jesus does not say, “My sheep may perish, but I will try to prevent it.” He says, “They shall never perish.” The ground of the believer’s security is not the strength of the sheep but the faithfulness of the Shepherd. Paul teaches the same truth: “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation… ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession.” Ephesians 1:13–14 A true believer is not merely touched by the Spirit. He is sealed by the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the guarantee of the believer’s inheritance until the final redemption. If the seal can fail, then the guarantee is not truly a guarantee. This is why salvation must first be understood as Scripture presents it. Salvation is not merely joining a church, praying a prayer, being baptized, having an emotional experience, or making a public profession. Salvation is God’s decisive work of regeneration, justification, adoption, sealing, and union with Christ. Jesus called it the new birth. When Nicodemus asked, “Can a man enter the second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus used that very impossibility to teach the necessity of being born of the Spirit. Birth creates life. Birth creates identity. Birth creates relationship. The New Testament never speaks of a person being born of God and then becoming unborn. John says those who receive Christ are “born… of God” (John 1:12–13). Paul says, “If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new” (2 Corinthians 5:17). The old man has been crucified with Christ. A new life has begun. That new life is not the product of human effort, and it cannot be reversed by human weakness. That old life doesn't exist again, so there's nothing to go back to. This does not mean believers never sin. Scripture never teaches sinless perfection. Believers may stumble, struggle, need correction, and require discipline. But Scripture distinguishes between a believer’s struggle with sin and a life finally characterized by unbelief and departure from Christ. Peter is a perfect example. Peter denied Christ three times. His failure was grievous. Yet before he fell, Jesus said: “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: but I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.” Luke 22:31–32 Peter fell, but his faith did not finally fail. Why? Because Christ interceded for him. Even in his darkest failure, Peter did not cease to be one of Christ's own. He did not lose his sonship, forfeit the new birth, or need to be born again a second time. Rather, the same Lord who prayed for him also restored him. His restoration was not a second regeneration, but the loving recovery of a wandering son. This is not unique to Peter. Hebrews says Christ “ever liveth to make intercession” for those who come to God by Him and is therefore “able also to save them to the uttermost” (Hebrews 7:25). The believer’s perseverance is secured by Christ’s ongoing priestly ministry. Judas is different. Judas was not a true believer who lost salvation. Jesus said from the beginning that some did not believe, and John explains that Jesus knew “who they were that believed not, and who should betray him” (John 6:64). Jesus later said, “Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?” (John 6:70). Judas walked with Christ outwardly, but he never belonged to Christ savingly. That distinction is vital. Not everyone who is around Christ is in Christ. Not everyone who serves in religious activity has experienced the new birth. Not everyone who says “Lord, Lord” belongs to the Lord. This is also why the warning passages must be read carefully. Hebrews does not teach that Christ loses His sheep. Hebrews repeatedly warns against unbelief. The wilderness generation saw God’s power, experienced covenant privileges, ate manna, drank from the rock, and witnessed divine glory. Yet Hebrews says: “So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.” Hebrews 3:19 Again: “The word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.” Hebrews 4:2 Their problem was not lack of privilege. It was unbelief. That same framework helps us understand Hebrews 6. The people described experienced profound spiritual privileges. They were enlightened. They tasted the heavenly gift. They were made partakers of the Holy Spirit. These descriptions should not be minimized. But the author immediately gives an illustration: Land that drinks in the rain and bears useful fruit receives blessing. Land that bears thorns and briers is rejected and near to being cursed. Hebrews 6:7–8 The rain is real. The privilege is real. The experience is real. But the fruit reveals the land. It shows they were never saved. Then the author says: “But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation.” Hebrews 6:9 That phrase matters. The author distinguishes profound spiritual privilege from “things that accompany salvation.” Hebrews 6 is not describing a sealed believer becoming unsealed, a born-again person becoming unborn, or Christ losing one of His sheep. It warns against receiving great light and still remaining barren in unbelief. The same is true in the epistles. The Corinthians had serious sins: division, carnality, lawsuits, drunkenness, and even sexual immorality. Yet Paul still addressed them as “sanctified in Christ Jesus” and “called to be saints” (1 Corinthians 1:2). He rebuked them because their conduct contradicted their identity. The Galatians were drifting into legalism. Paul corrected them sharply, but he still labored over them as those who needed Christ formed in them. The Ephesians were told to put off the old man and put on the new, not because they needed to become children of God again, but because they were to live consistently with what God had already made them in Christ. This is important because some speak as though sexual sin alone can make a believer lose salvation. But sin is sin. Lying is sin. Pride is sin. Bitterness is sin. Gluttony is sin. Laziness can be sin. Covetousness is sin. If salvation could be lost by any sin, no believer would stand. Our hope is not that we never stumble. Our hope is that we have an Advocate. “If any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.” 1 John 2:1 A true believer does not make peace with sin. He may struggle, but he comes to the Father. He confesses. He is corrected. He is disciplined. He grows. He works out in conduct the salvation God has already worked in him by grace. That is why assurance is not presumption. Presumption says, “I can live in sin because I once made a profession.” Assurance says, “Christ has saved me, sealed me, and is sanctifying me; therefore I will follow Him.” The Bible gives no comfort to the hypocrite who claims Christ while loving darkness. But it gives strong comfort to the believer who belongs to Christ and struggles in dependence upon Him. Romans 8 gives the believer one of the strongest assurances in Scripture: “Whom he justified, them he also glorified.” Romans 8:30 Paul speaks of glorification as so certain that he writes it as already done. Then he asks, “Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?” His answer is not “many things can.” His answer is that nothing in all creation can separate the believer from the love of God in Christ Jesus. So the issue is not whether God’s children are warned. They are. The issue is what those warnings mean. Warnings are real means God uses to keep His people watchful, humble, and persevering. They also expose those who are merely near the covenant community but never truly united to Christ by faith. The Bible’s message is not that salvation can be gained, lost, regained, and lost again. The Bible’s message is that Christ saves completely those who come to God through Him. A true Christian may fall, but Christ restores. A true Christian may struggle, but Christ intercedes. A true Christian may be disciplined, but God does not abandon His child. A true Christian may be weak, but the Shepherd does not lose His sheep. That is not careless security. That is biblical assurance. Christ is not merely the author of our faith. He is the finisher of it. “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.” Philippians 1:6

I think when people come to the complete knowledge of the difference between Sin as a Nature and Sin as an Act and the provision of God in Christ for both All this confusion will be gone for Good.

Sir don’t confuse people, chose one place you want to stay. You can’t balance the gospel abeg.

Rightly said,sir. Just one question What then is the sin that lead to death and what sin exactly did jesus died for?

Can the earth turn to an egg tomorrow morning? yes it can, but will it? No..that a thing is possible doesn't mean it is probable, hence the dichotomy between can / will have no bearing on this argument. The bible teaches that the saved will forever be saved. It's that simple.

You can't balance this. That's exactly the problem. You either believe your salvation is eternal or you believe it is temporal and based on your works rather than the perfect works of Jesus. Your analogy of the possibility of a branch breaking off the vine is funny too...

From This video, so God has people he can save specially. Chai...these children sef

I don't think you answer the question tho

Its funny, how you swing up and down, started with quoting the bible then in another breath you leave the bible to peg salvation on the sovereignty of God there by Pushing selective preference on the character of God. God is no respeecter of persons.

Jesus did not say it's possible this is what Jesus himself said

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: What Christ has started, He will finish The bornagain man can never be lost NEVER!

Heb 6:4-6 is my position: For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them

@iamebukadavid What people are saying is that a Christian CAN NOT lose his/her salvation

You can't lose what was never given to you out of merit. Salvation is a gift, given while we were yet sinners, so how can you lose what was given to you, when the giver saw your state before He gave you.

Oga, one question: when your child offends you, does that child cease to be your child? Does the child lose his relationship with you? It seems to me you don't understand the difference between "relationship" and "fellowship."

Thanks, but it shows Men got saved by Effort, Action or Activity they have done. We are saved by Grace through Faith. No works of Men is involved in His Salvation. So, how would you lose it? Assurance of Salvation is in the finished work of Christ. Not in what you've done!

I concur that Biblical Christianity provides Assurance without Presumption. However, isn't using Peter as an example, a presumption that a Christian will not lose their salvation even if they aren't persevering in Faith at the end of time? Do you believe in Salvation by Grace?

This is an extremely smart take 🫡

This is the perfect balance!

God bless you. Imagine saying Judas didn’t lose his salvation because he once had salvation. People just want to think

In law, you can't put something on nothing. If You're making this sort of argument, it means you're not aware of the gospel. You have never listened to Jesus Christ. That's the danger of drinking old wine even after the new wine had been provided by Jesus Christ. No one is saved while still alive. Those who endure suffering to the end shall be saved, according to Jesus Christ. The call is a call to affliction as in the parable of the sower. People leave Christ and run after false prophets like Paul et al only to come online to argue in an unlearned manner. Do you now see why this argument shouldn't have arisen in the first place? No one gets saved while living on earth, how does once saved bla bla come about? Guys, listen to Jesus Christ or perish.

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If You are having the thought of losing salvation , means that you believed by your works that was how you earned it and by works that’s how you retain it.. Salvation comes by faith in Jesus and not what the person does but what Jesus did .. who believed is OSAS

Bad guy. We think the same way

Hebrews wasn't written to Christians. Hebrews was written to Hebrews.

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This is insightful, the doctrine of eternal salvation is akin to a subtle endorsement of licentiousness. “Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.” Hebrews 3:12 KJV

I wonder why this is even a conversation.