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"It's disgusting, two decades on, we're finding new documents," says wrongly-convicted former subpostmaster Lee Castleton. He spoke out after Channel 4 News obtained a secret 2006 contract between the Post Office and Fujitsu which, despite decades of denial, shows the organisations were able to centrally alter subpostmaster accounts. The...

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Keith9 months ago

So the usual playbook: it's "too early" to comment - can't comment now there's an inquiry! - this is all water under the bridge it's too late to comment now meanwhile no justice and nobody held accountable

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Mark Cosovich9 months ago

We've secured our massive pensions and bonuses, What's not to like ?

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KernowbysVyken9 months ago

Where’s @EdwardJDavey to opine on this? He is a disgrace and should be stripped of his knighthood

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Dean Smith9 months ago

As a decent, hard working, law abiding citizen I am not ashamed to say I wish bad things on everyone involved in this vile murderous cover up, also see VIP Lane thieves & killers Water Company CEOs thieves & mass polluters I don’t even feel bad using the word Scum!!!

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Bill Brennan9 months ago

All the postmasters were led to believe they were the only ones having accountancy issues, if they had been able to go online and tell others of their troubles the truth could have came out decades ago.

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RMH9 months ago

If Channel 4 found the contract how did others not find it?

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Jacdavies9 months ago

Can’t let this go . They have to be brought to justice- it’s not just about compensation for the lost masters it’s about those responsible being held to account.

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Janet9 months ago

Utterly damning again & again. The sub postmasters injustices just keep stacking up. Having to relive this over & over again as more proof is uncovered about the cover up.

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Colin Stevens9 months ago

Now lock them all up - starting with Vennells! 😡

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Phil Thorne9 months ago

Isn’t this revealing perjury?

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David Fellowes9 months ago

This isn’t going to go away until full and fair restitution is awarded to the victims and the families, and the full force of the law imposed on the wrong doers. Close the Post Office and ban Fujitsu from the UK is but a minimum.

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Joh Taylor9 months ago

It beggars belief that the PO thought this might not come to light, for me it proves criminality re wrongful prosecutions and perjury under oath at the inquiry.

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pafaa_sofap9 months ago

They can keep apologising. They won't be believed until they stop prevaricating and fighting over the deserved compensation for the PO victims and their families.

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Dave Peterson Ⓥ 🇨🇦9 months ago

@fujitsu_uk you cowards. I once had one of your laptops and loved it. Now I feel ashamed to have ever done business with an organization that is apparently willing to treat people like rubbish. I will NOT be doing business with you ever again for the lives you have destroyed.

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@simonryan9 months ago

@Channel4News jujitsu needs to be struck off and taken down and paid every penny they took every person

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LittleFly #FBPE 💙 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇪🇺9 months ago

Apologies are not enough @UKLabour Prosecutions must follow

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Your free🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇲9 months ago

@EdwardJDavey total hypocritical tosser. You need a cell.

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JambosOnTour9 months ago

@CounsellingSam Did you pass this info to the Met?

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T. Rooth9 months ago

Let me give you a hint. Police executive (& LA's) work to principles laid down hundreds of years ago: Lord Halifax in his 1693 work Political, Moral and Miscellaneous Thoughts and Reflections stated: "Laws are for the information of wise men and the blind obedience of fools"

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@PeteMann9 months ago

@ThePosieParker @EdwardJDavey Perhaps you could help with this? Maybe if they pay you £250k? Oh no! Wrong side. I bet you would though. Money grubbing little creep

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Jackie G9 months ago

This is exactly what #1950swomen face. Decades later, hidden evidence still surfaces because it was never scrutinised. Like Horizon, the state said “nothing to see here.” Apologies cost nothing. Truth, accountability and justice have been systematically denied!

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REG BRAILEY9 months ago

So how are the government dealing with this?

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Jon ARPS. #ourNHS9 months ago

From day one, it was clear that the Post Office goal was to get rid of Sub Post Offices by any means....

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Memory of WWVets Golf9 months ago

Bankrupt @Fujitsu_Global and #jailvennels #PostOfficeScandal

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DrFionaFawcett9 months ago

Show no mercy...

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Ian Aspinall 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 who's/your/daddy9 months ago

And the libdems think they are the party of the people with a self centered narcissist as its head

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Little Old Wine Drinker9 months ago

@Patrici89225734 When will criminal charges begin for the senior execs and politicians who knew and facilitated prosecutions of innocent postmasters?

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gardengirl25 🐭9 months ago

The days when channel four dug deep into real stories, shame fight seems to have evaporated now

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Simon Clarke9 months ago

Another inquiry which will drag on giving the guilty time to go senile,retire,emigrate or die

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David Pilcher9 months ago

There needs to be criminal accountability at every level. Those that caused lives to be destroyed must go to jail.

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Kevin David Jones9 months ago

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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Filbert Cobb9 months ago

Ed Davey should resign and if there is a mechanism to bar him from any future position of importance it should be plugged in and switched on

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