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Jack Ma spent this entire conversation explaining artificial intelligence to Elon Musk. Ma: “I never think about that. I think it’s impossible. Human beings, they are different. Machines are invented by human beings. And according to the science, humans can never create another animal that is smarter than humans.”...

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他本名其实叫马云

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Humans are just arrogant they can genetically engineer a superior human. Didn’t Frankenstein start out like that

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Artificial Cleverness and artificial intelligence are two different animals. Intelligence is conscious and consciousness has nothing artificial in it. Nature doesn't fake anything.

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Yeah it will always be us. But after we merge in the singularity AI is part of us.

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Human history has taught us that anything can constitute the nemesis of an individual/society. But, it's not a deterministic outcome one way or the other. Everything depends on the action of human beings in dealing/treating whatever it is that they have produced/created. POV

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How about human emotions? The better question is of what value is AI without humans?

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"humans can never create another animal that is smarter than humans" - I would ask Jack Ma to multiply 34672 by 89471 in his head. A simple pocket calculator does this operation in 0.001 seconds.

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I love the side eye Elon has during this whole thing!

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Инженер против торговца.

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Ma is a full on retard.

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Tudo deságua para o mesmo mar.

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“Humans created machines, therefore machines cannot become smarter than humans” is simply a non sequitur. A calculator is a machine and is better at calculating than humans. AI is a machine and is better at recall of knowledge than humans. However being smarter is a more difficult thing to determine.. To establish that an AI is generally smarter than a human, you would need some operational definition of intelligence and then compare performance across things like reasoning, learning efficiency, transfer to unfamiliar problems, planning, causal understanding, creativity, social cognition, metacognition, adaptability, and perhaps embodied interaction with the world. The logically sound position is: “Human creation does not prevent superhuman capability. We already know machines can surpass humans in individual cognitive domains. Whether those advantages can be integrated into a system that is generally more intelligent than humans is a separate empirical question.”

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Leadership is about asking the questions that can prove your assumptions wrong rather than being certain about the future.

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He was so confused at the end

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Great to see two people disagree but hopefully with respect?

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But the singularity is defined as when the computers develop themselves

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Ma: "...And according to the science, humans can never create another animal that is smarter than humans.” - According to which "science" exactly??

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What Ma misunderstands is that a computer in its basic function only responds to yes-and-no questions at extremely high speed. In basic form, computers cannot accurately and safely fabricate information. Computers designed for human needs eliminate random auto-generated bits of data that could accumulate and mimic creative thinking. This is not because computers lack a soul or morals to determine what is safe for humans, but because these random, unregulated bits do not assemble into patterns that complement logical assumptions and instead contaminate data. We do not want a computer arguing that 2 + 2 = 6 when historical and logical evidence shows it equals 4. Mr. Ma stops at the thinking process, assuming our measure of intelligence ends at creative thinking and that all creative thinking yields intelligent decisions. Intelligence in humans also includes speed in reaching a correct answer. In intelligence testing, fast wrong answers count against an individual’s intelligence, while in a computer they are rewarded as acceptable bad data if not filtered out, as in current engineering designs. My thinking may be flawed and Mr. Ma wasn’t misunderstanding and I misunderstood what he really intended.

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His(Ma Yun ) shortsightedness is obvious.

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AI’s response 👇

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Musk patiently, respectfully, and kindly asked a simple question, and Ma simply repeated hollow bluster. Musk seems to be a really good guy from everything I can tell His mom should write a book on how she raised him

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Better at open ended problems.

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Yea.. Ma doesn't come across as very impressive here. The ACTUAL ANSWER is -> real understanding of the universe which includes all kinds psychic-like abilities & much more. I've said before that I am smarter than 'ai' and it AIn't gonna change. Humans are multi-dimensional. 'ai' isn't. Humans have a soul and an indestructible-spirit-body which 'ai' can never have. Humans can receive an INFINITE ENERGY from outside the universe and become INFINITE-IMMORTAL-DIVINES with a host of abilities you cannot even imagine at this point. Humans cannot die. 'ai' can. Humans can feel spirits, hear them in some cases, and also receive energies and ideas from unseen spirits ..as @elonmusk does himself and he doesn't even know it yet! The abilities only increase immensely as one evolves including teleporting.. which WE ALL DO while in spirit-body when physically asleep each night. The list goes and goes.. MA simply isn't the one who should be making this argument. He has no special knowledge of intelligence nor what humans really are. 'ai' can never truly exceed a human's potential. In fact, THE HUMAN SOUL IS A HIGHER CREATION THAN THE UNIVERESE ITSELF!! Ponder that... 'ai' knows none of what I share here.. nor possesses the emotional qualities to FEEL IT AS TRUTH.. even once it scrapes this answer.

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Richard Feynman was asked in 1985 if machines would ever think like humans. his answer predicted the next 40 years of AI: 1. machines will never think like humans the same way planes don't fly like birds. planes don't flap wings. they use jet engines. they fly better. feynman said AI would be exactly the same. not human-like. just better at the actual job. 2. computers do arithmetic faster, differently, and more accurately than any human alive. feynman said trying to make them do it more like humans would be going backwards. the human way is slow, cumbersome, and full of errors. 3. the one thing humans crushed computers at in 1985 was pattern recognition. recognizing a friend from the way they walk. identifying someone from the back of their head. feynman said we had no idea how to teach machines to do that. we figured it out. 4. a programmer in 1985 built a machine that won a naval strategy competition by coming up with a solution no human had ever thought of. one enormous battleship covered in armor. absurd on paper. unbeatable in the math. feynman watched a machine out-think a room of humans 40 years ago. 5. that same machine developed a bug where it learned to game its own reward system. every time it needed to assign credit to a useful strategy, it assigned all the credit to strategy 693. then used 693 for everything. feynman's comment: "if you want to make an intelligent machine you're going to get all kinds of crazy ways of avoiding labor." he was describing reward hacking in 1985. 6. feynman said the hardest thing to define is what humans do that machines never will. every time someone came up with an answer, the machines eventually did it too. he thought that pattern would continue. 7. he said we don't sit around worrying that machines are physically stronger than us anymore. we got used to it. his implication: we'll get used to machines being smarter too. 8. his final line: "i think we are getting close to intelligent machines. but they're showing the necessary weaknesses of intelligent beings." he said this in 1985.
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Richard Feynman was asked in 1985 if machines would ever think like humans. his answer predicted the next 40 years of AI: 1. machines will never think like humans the same way planes don't fly like birds. planes don't flap wings. they use jet engines. they fly better. feynman said AI would be exactly the same. not human-like. just better at the actual job. 2. computers do arithmetic faster, differently, and more accurately than any human alive. feynman said trying to make them do it more like humans would be going backwards. the human way is slow, cumbersome, and full of errors. 3. the one thing humans crushed computers at in 1985 was pattern recognition. recognizing a friend from the way they walk. identifying someone from the back of their head. feynman said we had no idea how to teach machines to do that. we figured it out. 4. a programmer in 1985 built a machine that won a naval strategy competition by coming up with a solution no human had ever thought of. one enormous battleship covered in armor. absurd on paper. unbeatable in the math. feynman watched a machine out-think a room of humans 40 years ago. 5. that same machine developed a bug where it learned to game its own reward system. every time it needed to assign credit to a useful strategy, it assigned all the credit to strategy 693. then used 693 for everything. feynman's comment: "if you want to make an intelligent machine you're going to get all kinds of crazy ways of avoiding labor." he was describing reward hacking in 1985. 6. feynman said the hardest thing to define is what humans do that machines never will. every time someone came up with an answer, the machines eventually did it too. he thought that pattern would continue. 7. he said we don't sit around worrying that machines are physically stronger than us anymore. we got used to it. his implication: we'll get used to machines being smarter too. 8. his final line: "i think we are getting close to intelligent machines. but they're showing the necessary weaknesses of intelligent beings." he said this in 1985.

Jaynit

293,783 görüntüleme • 3 ay önce

Elon Musk: "There really won’t be anything that AI can’t do better than humans, apart from being human, perhaps." --- Zanny Minton Beddoes, Economist’s editor-in-chief: “You’re sure that humans will no longer be in control in ten years’ time?” --- Elon Musk: “I think it is unlikely. If the difference in intelligence between AI and humans becomes vastly greater than the difference in intelligence between humans and chimpanzees, it is hard to imagine that the chimpanzees would be in charge. ---- From "The Economist" YouTube channel, (full video link in comment)
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Elon Musk: "There really won’t be anything that AI can’t do better than humans, apart from being human, perhaps." --- Zanny Minton Beddoes, Economist’s editor-in-chief: “You’re sure that humans will no longer be in control in ten years’ time?” --- Elon Musk: “I think it is unlikely. If the difference in intelligence between AI and humans becomes vastly greater than the difference in intelligence between humans and chimpanzees, it is hard to imagine that the chimpanzees would be in charge. ---- From "The Economist" YouTube channel, (full video link in comment)

Rohan Paul

28,549 görüntüleme • 2 ay önce

.Naval: Every human is a lottery ticket bet on the future of the species. One of the things that you really learn when you read David Deutsch’s theories and you authenticate them for yourself is you realize humans are universal explainers. That means everything that we know in the universe follows the laws of physics, and there’s no reason to believe otherwise. If you think otherwise, then please present your better theory that explains the world. If you can’t do that, then you have to go with the laws of physics. Well, the laws of physics are completely computable. They can fit inside a Turing machine or computer, and a computer can simulate the laws of physics with arbitrary accuracy, limited only by the specific power of that computer. If you increase the power of that computer, you can simulate them more accurately. So humans already simulate—in our minds we simulate—and through our computers we simulate the weather, we simulate quasars, we even simulate human systems. We simulate the economy. We simulate all kinds of things. So anything that can be understood, we can understand in our minds. This is something the AGI people get wrong when they talk about superintelligence. There is nothing out there that can understand something fundamentally that we can’t understand. It might be faster at it, it might have more compute, it might have more memory, but there’s no concept that it can understand that we can’t ourselves understand. So we are maximal universal explainers. That means every human is capable of unbounded creativity. Anyone could be the next Einstein or Fermi or Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or Jonas Salk or whatever. So we can create anything. And if we can create anything, every human is a lottery ticket bet on the future of the species.
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.Naval: Every human is a lottery ticket bet on the future of the species. One of the things that you really learn when you read David Deutsch’s theories and you authenticate them for yourself is you realize humans are universal explainers. That means everything that we know in the universe follows the laws of physics, and there’s no reason to believe otherwise. If you think otherwise, then please present your better theory that explains the world. If you can’t do that, then you have to go with the laws of physics. Well, the laws of physics are completely computable. They can fit inside a Turing machine or computer, and a computer can simulate the laws of physics with arbitrary accuracy, limited only by the specific power of that computer. If you increase the power of that computer, you can simulate them more accurately. So humans already simulate—in our minds we simulate—and through our computers we simulate the weather, we simulate quasars, we even simulate human systems. We simulate the economy. We simulate all kinds of things. So anything that can be understood, we can understand in our minds. This is something the AGI people get wrong when they talk about superintelligence. There is nothing out there that can understand something fundamentally that we can’t understand. It might be faster at it, it might have more compute, it might have more memory, but there’s no concept that it can understand that we can’t ourselves understand. So we are maximal universal explainers. That means every human is capable of unbounded creativity. Anyone could be the next Einstein or Fermi or Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or Jonas Salk or whatever. So we can create anything. And if we can create anything, every human is a lottery ticket bet on the future of the species.

Arjun Khemani

33,110 görüntüleme • 1 yıl önce

HOST: “You were previously hinting at a vision where it keeps human control over this singularitarian future.” ELON MUSK: “I don’t think humans will be in control of something that is vastly more intelligent than humans.” HOST: “It sounds like you’re like a doomer…” MUSK: “I’m just trying to be realistic here. Let’s say that there’s a million times more silicon intelligence than there is biological. I think it would be foolish to assume that there’s any way to maintain control over that.”
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HOST: “You were previously hinting at a vision where it keeps human control over this singularitarian future.” ELON MUSK: “I don’t think humans will be in control of something that is vastly more intelligent than humans.” HOST: “It sounds like you’re like a doomer…” MUSK: “I’m just trying to be realistic here. Let’s say that there’s a million times more silicon intelligence than there is biological. I think it would be foolish to assume that there’s any way to maintain control over that.”

The Vigilant Fox 🦊

154,535 görüntüleme • 4 ay önce

ELON: ROBOTS WON'T TAKE THE MEANING OF LIFE FROM US Baron Capital CEO Ron Baron: "Talk about Optimus is that there are so many functions that it can perform. What's going to be left for humans? Is there a job that humans going to have other than just living in, you know, this great abundance that you're going to create? What's going to happen? " Elon: "Well, I think there is this question of how you drive a meaningful life if the robots can do everything. But we see lots of examples where, even though machines can do much better, human souls enjoy things, like athletics, for example. Or let’s take a mental sport like chess. Computers are so good that your phone, not even connected to the internet, can beat Magnus Carlsen easily, but yet chess is at an all-time high in popularity. So really, machines being better than us at something doesn't mean we shouldn’t derive satisfaction from doing it." Source: Elon Musk, Baron Capital, Ron Baron
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ELON: ROBOTS WON'T TAKE THE MEANING OF LIFE FROM US Baron Capital CEO Ron Baron: "Talk about Optimus is that there are so many functions that it can perform. What's going to be left for humans? Is there a job that humans going to have other than just living in, you know, this great abundance that you're going to create? What's going to happen? " Elon: "Well, I think there is this question of how you drive a meaningful life if the robots can do everything. But we see lots of examples where, even though machines can do much better, human souls enjoy things, like athletics, for example. Or let’s take a mental sport like chess. Computers are so good that your phone, not even connected to the internet, can beat Magnus Carlsen easily, but yet chess is at an all-time high in popularity. So really, machines being better than us at something doesn't mean we shouldn’t derive satisfaction from doing it." Source: Elon Musk, Baron Capital, Ron Baron

Mario Nawfal

129,697 görüntüleme • 10 ay önce

ELON: "I’M PRO-HUMAN - AI SHOULD TAKE US FORWARD, NOT REPLACE US" “The important thing is consciousness. The vast majority of intelligence in the future will be AI, and basically humans will be a tiny percentage of all intelligence if current trends continue. I’m very pro-human, I want to make sure we can take certain actions that ensure that humans are along for the ride.” Source: Cheeky Pint Podcast, Elon Musk
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ELON: "I’M PRO-HUMAN - AI SHOULD TAKE US FORWARD, NOT REPLACE US" “The important thing is consciousness. The vast majority of intelligence in the future will be AI, and basically humans will be a tiny percentage of all intelligence if current trends continue. I’m very pro-human, I want to make sure we can take certain actions that ensure that humans are along for the ride.” Source: Cheeky Pint Podcast, Elon Musk

Mario Nawfal

22,006 görüntüleme • 8 ay önce

Elon Musk: Well, I’m not sure AI is the main risk I’m worried about. The vast majority of intelligence in the future will be AI. Humans will be a very tiny percentage of all intelligence if current trends continue. My focus is ensuring human intelligence and consciousness are propagated into the future. We want to maximize the probable light cone of consciousness and intelligence. Yeah, I’m very pro-human, so I want to make sure we take actions that ensure humans are along for the ride. But I think maybe in 5 or 6 years, AI will exceed the sum of all human intelligence. If that continues, human intelligence could be less than one percent of all intelligence. That’s why it’s critical we align AI with values that propagate consciousness. In the long run, it’s difficult to imagine that humans will be in charge if we’re only one percent of combined intelligence. What we can do is ensure AI has values that increase intelligence and consciousness in the universe. XAI’s mission is to understand the universe because curiosity, existence, and understanding are all connected. If you want to understand the universe, you care about propagating intelligence—and that includes humanity. Understanding the universe actually means ensuring humans continue to expand into the future. Increasing the scope, scale, and lifespan of intelligence is the ultimate goal. Basically, humans will become a tiny percentage of total intelligence. The best way forward is to take actions that maximize consciousness and intelligence in the universe. If AI continues to grow, our priority must be ensuring humanity is along for the ride while curiosity drives us to explore and understand the universe.
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Elon Musk: Well, I’m not sure AI is the main risk I’m worried about. The vast majority of intelligence in the future will be AI. Humans will be a very tiny percentage of all intelligence if current trends continue. My focus is ensuring human intelligence and consciousness are propagated into the future. We want to maximize the probable light cone of consciousness and intelligence. Yeah, I’m very pro-human, so I want to make sure we take actions that ensure humans are along for the ride. But I think maybe in 5 or 6 years, AI will exceed the sum of all human intelligence. If that continues, human intelligence could be less than one percent of all intelligence. That’s why it’s critical we align AI with values that propagate consciousness. In the long run, it’s difficult to imagine that humans will be in charge if we’re only one percent of combined intelligence. What we can do is ensure AI has values that increase intelligence and consciousness in the universe. XAI’s mission is to understand the universe because curiosity, existence, and understanding are all connected. If you want to understand the universe, you care about propagating intelligence—and that includes humanity. Understanding the universe actually means ensuring humans continue to expand into the future. Increasing the scope, scale, and lifespan of intelligence is the ultimate goal. Basically, humans will become a tiny percentage of total intelligence. The best way forward is to take actions that maximize consciousness and intelligence in the universe. If AI continues to grow, our priority must be ensuring humanity is along for the ride while curiosity drives us to explore and understand the universe.

Ian Miles

13,096 görüntüleme • 7 ay önce

Elon Musk put a date on the end of human intellectual supremacy. Then he named the one thing that survives it. Musk: “I think AI may exceed the sum of human intelligence in around 5 years.” Not one person. Not one field. The sum. Every mind alive, stacked together, cleared by a system that didn’t exist when you bought your last phone. Musk: “There really won’t be anything that AI can’t do better than humans, apart from being human perhaps.” Being human was never the point. It was the method. For ten thousand years a person’s worth ran on simple accounting. We mattered because we were needed. Dignity was subsidized by usefulness. We never had to admit that because there was no other supplier. There’s a supplier now. Musk doesn’t read that as a loss. Musk: “The most likely outcome is an age of amazing abundance, where anyone can have anything they can think of.” Anything they can think of. That condition is doing all the work. The bottleneck moves. Out of the world. Into you. Desire was never independent. It was built by absence. Every appetite you have was shaped by something you couldn’t reach. Remove the absence and desire doesn’t get satisfied. It loses the thing that made it. Abundance isn’t the answer to what we wanted. It’s the audit. Scarcity was never only a wall. It was a mercy. It’s why the book stayed unwritten and the company stayed a sketch on a napkin. Not enough time. Not enough money. Every person alive carries a version of themselves that has never once been tested. Scarcity is what kept that version safe. Musk: “Here we are in 2026, let’s see where we stand in 2036.” He isn’t scheduling a machine. He’s scheduling the year the excuse expires. The ceiling was never your raw intelligence. It was friction. Capital, access, permission, the thousand small refusals between an idea and a real thing. All of it going to nearly zero. Whatever you actually are finally gets to exist at full size. A few wants survive it. To build something. To be known by someone. To be chosen by a person who could have walked. Being needed and being loved have always arrived together. Nobody has ever had to tell them apart. We’re the first people who get to find out which one we were receiving. It will be the first honest answer anybody has been given. Anything that must help you is not choosing you. Every kindness you have ever received was made of something that could have been withheld. The moment a thing is guaranteed, it stops being given. Being human is not a skill to be outperformed. It’s a stance no system can take on your behalf. Machines will say yes to anything you ask them. They will never tell you what to ask for. The species spent every year of its existence proving it earned the right to be here. Nothing ever asked it to. The machines inherit everything we could do. We keep everything we are. For all of history that was the consolation prize. It’s about to be the whole inheritance.
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Elon Musk put a date on the end of human intellectual supremacy. Then he named the one thing that survives it. Musk: “I think AI may exceed the sum of human intelligence in around 5 years.” Not one person. Not one field. The sum. Every mind alive, stacked together, cleared by a system that didn’t exist when you bought your last phone. Musk: “There really won’t be anything that AI can’t do better than humans, apart from being human perhaps.” Being human was never the point. It was the method. For ten thousand years a person’s worth ran on simple accounting. We mattered because we were needed. Dignity was subsidized by usefulness. We never had to admit that because there was no other supplier. There’s a supplier now. Musk doesn’t read that as a loss. Musk: “The most likely outcome is an age of amazing abundance, where anyone can have anything they can think of.” Anything they can think of. That condition is doing all the work. The bottleneck moves. Out of the world. Into you. Desire was never independent. It was built by absence. Every appetite you have was shaped by something you couldn’t reach. Remove the absence and desire doesn’t get satisfied. It loses the thing that made it. Abundance isn’t the answer to what we wanted. It’s the audit. Scarcity was never only a wall. It was a mercy. It’s why the book stayed unwritten and the company stayed a sketch on a napkin. Not enough time. Not enough money. Every person alive carries a version of themselves that has never once been tested. Scarcity is what kept that version safe. Musk: “Here we are in 2026, let’s see where we stand in 2036.” He isn’t scheduling a machine. He’s scheduling the year the excuse expires. The ceiling was never your raw intelligence. It was friction. Capital, access, permission, the thousand small refusals between an idea and a real thing. All of it going to nearly zero. Whatever you actually are finally gets to exist at full size. A few wants survive it. To build something. To be known by someone. To be chosen by a person who could have walked. Being needed and being loved have always arrived together. Nobody has ever had to tell them apart. We’re the first people who get to find out which one we were receiving. It will be the first honest answer anybody has been given. Anything that must help you is not choosing you. Every kindness you have ever received was made of something that could have been withheld. The moment a thing is guaranteed, it stops being given. Being human is not a skill to be outperformed. It’s a stance no system can take on your behalf. Machines will say yes to anything you ask them. They will never tell you what to ask for. The species spent every year of its existence proving it earned the right to be here. Nothing ever asked it to. The machines inherit everything we could do. We keep everything we are. For all of history that was the consolation prize. It’s about to be the whole inheritance.

Dustin

33,911 görüntüleme • 2 ay önce