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Jack Ma spent this entire conversation explaining artificial intelligence to Elon Musk. Ma: “I never think about that. I think it’s impossible. Human beings, they are different. Machines are invented by human beings. And according to the science, humans can never create another animal that is smarter than humans.”... According to the science. His whole case is that we built the machines, so the machines cannot beat us. We also built the forklift. Musk: “I very much disagree with that.” Ma took that as encouragement. Ma: “My view is that computer may be clever but human being are much smarter.” Clever computers, smart humans. He is settling this with a thesaurus. Musk: “Yeah definitely not.” Then Musk hands him the easiest question anyone has ever been asked on a stage. Musk: “What would be an example of something that humans are better than a computer at, and then let’s see if that happens.” Name one thing. We check back in a few years and see who was right. Ma: “Computer is only one of the clever tools that human created. And computers are clever but there will be more tools that human beings will create much clever than computers. That’s my view.” He could not name one. What he said instead is that humans will keep building things that outperform whatever they built last. That is Musk’s position. Ma argued it himself, out loud, on stage, while trying to win. Musk: “Yeah.” By then there was nothing left to disagree with.show more

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506,761 次观看 • 8 个月前

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Elon Musk just said AI will be smarter than every human on Earth combined within five years. Musk: “I think we might have AI that is smarter than any human by the end of this year.” Not a decade from now. Not five years. Months. Musk: “No later than next year.” He wasn’t finished. Musk: “Probably by 2030 or 2031, call it five years from now, AI will be smarter than all of humanity collectively.” Every mind that has ever existed, fused into one, and still slower than what’s coming. The man just described the end of human intellectual supremacy and the only response in the room was “Wow.” This is how civilizations miss the moment. Not with resistance. With manners. Musk isn’t guessing from a stage. He runs the AI company. He sees the acceleration that hasn’t gone public yet. This isn’t prediction. It’s reporting. The human brain was built for straight lines. Growth that compounds doesn’t register until it’s already past you. You can see an exponential curve on a chart. You cannot feel it while you’re standing on it. And there’s a deeper problem no one talks about. We have no way to measure an intelligence greater than our own. We can know something is smarter. We cannot understand how it thinks. A mind built on pattern recognition cannot recognize patterns it was never designed to see. The moments that change everything never feel like it to the people living through them. This one won’t either.

Dustin

84,189 次观看 • 3 个月前

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Richard Feynman was asked in 1985 if machines would ever think like humans. his answer predicted the next 40 years of AI: 1. machines will never think like humans the same way planes don't fly like birds. planes don't flap wings. they use jet engines. they fly better. feynman said AI would be exactly the same. not human-like. just better at the actual job. 2. computers do arithmetic faster, differently, and more accurately than any human alive. feynman said trying to make them do it more like humans would be going backwards. the human way is slow, cumbersome, and full of errors. 3. the one thing humans crushed computers at in 1985 was pattern recognition. recognizing a friend from the way they walk. identifying someone from the back of their head. feynman said we had no idea how to teach machines to do that. we figured it out. 4. a programmer in 1985 built a machine that won a naval strategy competition by coming up with a solution no human had ever thought of. one enormous battleship covered in armor. absurd on paper. unbeatable in the math. feynman watched a machine out-think a room of humans 40 years ago. 5. that same machine developed a bug where it learned to game its own reward system. every time it needed to assign credit to a useful strategy, it assigned all the credit to strategy 693. then used 693 for everything. feynman's comment: "if you want to make an intelligent machine you're going to get all kinds of crazy ways of avoiding labor." he was describing reward hacking in 1985. 6. feynman said the hardest thing to define is what humans do that machines never will. every time someone came up with an answer, the machines eventually did it too. he thought that pattern would continue. 7. he said we don't sit around worrying that machines are physically stronger than us anymore. we got used to it. his implication: we'll get used to machines being smarter too. 8. his final line: "i think we are getting close to intelligent machines. but they're showing the necessary weaknesses of intelligent beings." he said this in 1985.

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.Naval: Every human is a lottery ticket bet on the future of the species. One of the things that you really learn when you read David Deutsch’s theories and you authenticate them for yourself is you realize humans are universal explainers. That means everything that we know in the universe follows the laws of physics, and there’s no reason to believe otherwise. If you think otherwise, then please present your better theory that explains the world. If you can’t do that, then you have to go with the laws of physics. Well, the laws of physics are completely computable. They can fit inside a Turing machine or computer, and a computer can simulate the laws of physics with arbitrary accuracy, limited only by the specific power of that computer. If you increase the power of that computer, you can simulate them more accurately. So humans already simulate—in our minds we simulate—and through our computers we simulate the weather, we simulate quasars, we even simulate human systems. We simulate the economy. We simulate all kinds of things. So anything that can be understood, we can understand in our minds. This is something the AGI people get wrong when they talk about superintelligence. There is nothing out there that can understand something fundamentally that we can’t understand. It might be faster at it, it might have more compute, it might have more memory, but there’s no concept that it can understand that we can’t ourselves understand. So we are maximal universal explainers. That means every human is capable of unbounded creativity. Anyone could be the next Einstein or Fermi or Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or Jonas Salk or whatever. So we can create anything. And if we can create anything, every human is a lottery ticket bet on the future of the species.

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Elon Musk: "There really won’t be anything that AI can’t do better than humans, apart from being human, perhaps." --- Zanny Minton Beddoes, Economist’s editor-in-chief: “You’re sure that humans will no longer be in control in ten years’ time?” --- Elon Musk: “I think it is unlikely. If the difference in intelligence between AI and humans becomes vastly greater than the difference in intelligence between humans and chimpanzees, it is hard to imagine that the chimpanzees would be in charge. ---- From "The Economist" YouTube channel, (full video link in comment)

Elon Musk: "There really won’t be anything that AI can’t do better than humans, apart from being human, perhaps." --- Zanny Minton Beddoes, Economist’s editor-in-chief: “You’re sure that humans will no longer be in control in ten years’ time?” --- Elon Musk: “I think it is unlikely. If the difference in intelligence between AI and humans becomes vastly greater than the difference in intelligence between humans and chimpanzees, it is hard to imagine that the chimpanzees would be in charge. ---- From "The Economist" YouTube channel, (full video link in comment)

Rohan Paul

28,242 次观看 • 15 天前

HOST: “You were previously hinting at a vision where it keeps human control over this singularitarian future.” ELON MUSK: “I don’t think humans will be in control of something that is vastly more intelligent than humans.” HOST: “It sounds like you’re like a doomer…” MUSK: “I’m just trying to be realistic here. Let’s say that there’s a million times more silicon intelligence than there is biological. I think it would be foolish to assume that there’s any way to maintain control over that.”

HOST: “You were previously hinting at a vision where it keeps human control over this singularitarian future.” ELON MUSK: “I don’t think humans will be in control of something that is vastly more intelligent than humans.” HOST: “It sounds like you’re like a doomer…” MUSK: “I’m just trying to be realistic here. Let’s say that there’s a million times more silicon intelligence than there is biological. I think it would be foolish to assume that there’s any way to maintain control over that.”

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ELON: ROBOTS WON'T TAKE THE MEANING OF LIFE FROM US Baron Capital CEO Ron Baron: "Talk about Optimus is that there are so many functions that it can perform. What's going to be left for humans? Is there a job that humans going to have other than just living in, you know, this great abundance that you're going to create? What's going to happen? " Elon: "Well, I think there is this question of how you drive a meaningful life if the robots can do everything. But we see lots of examples where, even though machines can do much better, human souls enjoy things, like athletics, for example. Or let’s take a mental sport like chess. Computers are so good that your phone, not even connected to the internet, can beat Magnus Carlsen easily, but yet chess is at an all-time high in popularity. So really, machines being better than us at something doesn't mean we shouldn’t derive satisfaction from doing it." Source: Elon Musk, Baron Capital, Ron Baron

ELON: ROBOTS WON'T TAKE THE MEANING OF LIFE FROM US Baron Capital CEO Ron Baron: "Talk about Optimus is that there are so many functions that it can perform. What's going to be left for humans? Is there a job that humans going to have other than just living in, you know, this great abundance that you're going to create? What's going to happen? " Elon: "Well, I think there is this question of how you drive a meaningful life if the robots can do everything. But we see lots of examples where, even though machines can do much better, human souls enjoy things, like athletics, for example. Or let’s take a mental sport like chess. Computers are so good that your phone, not even connected to the internet, can beat Magnus Carlsen easily, but yet chess is at an all-time high in popularity. So really, machines being better than us at something doesn't mean we shouldn’t derive satisfaction from doing it." Source: Elon Musk, Baron Capital, Ron Baron

Mario Nawfal

129,697 次观看 • 9 个月前

Elon Musk: As human intelligence plateaus, AI will scale to harness most of the power of the galaxy Elon: "I think we'll see intelligence continue to scale all the way up to where most of the power of the sun is harnessed for compute, and then ultimately most of the power of the galaxy." “ Once you think about artificial intelligence not as sort of this destination that you reach, but really as part of the overall escalation of intelligence, you know, human intelligence has also scaled as the population has increased, and we've been able to store more and more information.” “Because of population declines and low birthrate, human intelligence is somewhat plateauing and will actually decline.” “I think that we might have AI smarter than any single human at anything as soon as next year.” “And then probably within five (years), like say 2030, probably AI is smarter than the sum of all humans.” Friedberg: “ Do you think humans are on the decline because the AI is evolving?” “Do you think there's this evolution of the ecosystem on earth that's underway, that we don't really understand the structure of what's going on?” Elon: “ Yeah, maybe we implicitly know that it's coming.” Elon Musk david friedberg

Elon Musk: As human intelligence plateaus, AI will scale to harness most of the power of the galaxy Elon: "I think we'll see intelligence continue to scale all the way up to where most of the power of the sun is harnessed for compute, and then ultimately most of the power of the galaxy." “ Once you think about artificial intelligence not as sort of this destination that you reach, but really as part of the overall escalation of intelligence, you know, human intelligence has also scaled as the population has increased, and we've been able to store more and more information.” “Because of population declines and low birthrate, human intelligence is somewhat plateauing and will actually decline.” “I think that we might have AI smarter than any single human at anything as soon as next year.” “And then probably within five (years), like say 2030, probably AI is smarter than the sum of all humans.” Friedberg: “ Do you think humans are on the decline because the AI is evolving?” “Do you think there's this evolution of the ecosystem on earth that's underway, that we don't really understand the structure of what's going on?” Elon: “ Yeah, maybe we implicitly know that it's coming.” Elon Musk david friedberg

The All-In Podcast

107,012 次观看 • 11 个月前

ELON: "I’M PRO-HUMAN - AI SHOULD TAKE US FORWARD, NOT REPLACE US" “The important thing is consciousness. The vast majority of intelligence in the future will be AI, and basically humans will be a tiny percentage of all intelligence if current trends continue. I’m very pro-human, I want to make sure we can take certain actions that ensure that humans are along for the ride.” Source: Cheeky Pint Podcast, Elon Musk

ELON: "I’M PRO-HUMAN - AI SHOULD TAKE US FORWARD, NOT REPLACE US" “The important thing is consciousness. The vast majority of intelligence in the future will be AI, and basically humans will be a tiny percentage of all intelligence if current trends continue. I’m very pro-human, I want to make sure we can take certain actions that ensure that humans are along for the ride.” Source: Cheeky Pint Podcast, Elon Musk

Mario Nawfal

22,006 次观看 • 6 个月前

Elon Musk: Well, I’m not sure AI is the main risk I’m worried about. The vast majority of intelligence in the future will be AI. Humans will be a very tiny percentage of all intelligence if current trends continue. My focus is ensuring human intelligence and consciousness are propagated into the future. We want to maximize the probable light cone of consciousness and intelligence. Yeah, I’m very pro-human, so I want to make sure we take actions that ensure humans are along for the ride. But I think maybe in 5 or 6 years, AI will exceed the sum of all human intelligence. If that continues, human intelligence could be less than one percent of all intelligence. That’s why it’s critical we align AI with values that propagate consciousness. In the long run, it’s difficult to imagine that humans will be in charge if we’re only one percent of combined intelligence. What we can do is ensure AI has values that increase intelligence and consciousness in the universe. XAI’s mission is to understand the universe because curiosity, existence, and understanding are all connected. If you want to understand the universe, you care about propagating intelligence—and that includes humanity. Understanding the universe actually means ensuring humans continue to expand into the future. Increasing the scope, scale, and lifespan of intelligence is the ultimate goal. Basically, humans will become a tiny percentage of total intelligence. The best way forward is to take actions that maximize consciousness and intelligence in the universe. If AI continues to grow, our priority must be ensuring humanity is along for the ride while curiosity drives us to explore and understand the universe.

Elon Musk: Well, I’m not sure AI is the main risk I’m worried about. The vast majority of intelligence in the future will be AI. Humans will be a very tiny percentage of all intelligence if current trends continue. My focus is ensuring human intelligence and consciousness are propagated into the future. We want to maximize the probable light cone of consciousness and intelligence. Yeah, I’m very pro-human, so I want to make sure we take actions that ensure humans are along for the ride. But I think maybe in 5 or 6 years, AI will exceed the sum of all human intelligence. If that continues, human intelligence could be less than one percent of all intelligence. That’s why it’s critical we align AI with values that propagate consciousness. In the long run, it’s difficult to imagine that humans will be in charge if we’re only one percent of combined intelligence. What we can do is ensure AI has values that increase intelligence and consciousness in the universe. XAI’s mission is to understand the universe because curiosity, existence, and understanding are all connected. If you want to understand the universe, you care about propagating intelligence—and that includes humanity. Understanding the universe actually means ensuring humans continue to expand into the future. Increasing the scope, scale, and lifespan of intelligence is the ultimate goal. Basically, humans will become a tiny percentage of total intelligence. The best way forward is to take actions that maximize consciousness and intelligence in the universe. If AI continues to grow, our priority must be ensuring humanity is along for the ride while curiosity drives us to explore and understand the universe.

Ian Miles Cheong

13,092 次观看 • 6 个月前

Elon Musk put a date on the end of human intellectual supremacy. Then he named the one thing that survives it. Musk: “I think AI may exceed the sum of human intelligence in around 5 years.” Not one person. Not one field. The sum. Every mind alive, stacked together, cleared by a system that didn’t exist when you bought your last phone. Musk: “There really won’t be anything that AI can’t do better than humans, apart from being human perhaps.” Being human was never the point. It was the method. For ten thousand years a person’s worth ran on simple accounting. We mattered because we were needed. Dignity was subsidized by usefulness. We never had to admit that because there was no other supplier. There’s a supplier now. Musk doesn’t read that as a loss. Musk: “The most likely outcome is an age of amazing abundance, where anyone can have anything they can think of.” Anything they can think of. That condition is doing all the work. The bottleneck moves. Out of the world. Into you. Desire was never independent. It was built by absence. Every appetite you have was shaped by something you couldn’t reach. Remove the absence and desire doesn’t get satisfied. It loses the thing that made it. Abundance isn’t the answer to what we wanted. It’s the audit. Scarcity was never only a wall. It was a mercy. It’s why the book stayed unwritten and the company stayed a sketch on a napkin. Not enough time. Not enough money. Every person alive carries a version of themselves that has never once been tested. Scarcity is what kept that version safe. Musk: “Here we are in 2026, let’s see where we stand in 2036.” He isn’t scheduling a machine. He’s scheduling the year the excuse expires. The ceiling was never your raw intelligence. It was friction. Capital, access, permission, the thousand small refusals between an idea and a real thing. All of it going to nearly zero. Whatever you actually are finally gets to exist at full size. A few wants survive it. To build something. To be known by someone. To be chosen by a person who could have walked. Being needed and being loved have always arrived together. Nobody has ever had to tell them apart. We’re the first people who get to find out which one we were receiving. It will be the first honest answer anybody has been given. Anything that must help you is not choosing you. Every kindness you have ever received was made of something that could have been withheld. The moment a thing is guaranteed, it stops being given. Being human is not a skill to be outperformed. It’s a stance no system can take on your behalf. Machines will say yes to anything you ask them. They will never tell you what to ask for. The species spent every year of its existence proving it earned the right to be here. Nothing ever asked it to. The machines inherit everything we could do. We keep everything we are. For all of history that was the consolation prize. It’s about to be the whole inheritance.

Elon Musk put a date on the end of human intellectual supremacy. Then he named the one thing that survives it. Musk: “I think AI may exceed the sum of human intelligence in around 5 years.” Not one person. Not one field. The sum. Every mind alive, stacked together, cleared by a system that didn’t exist when you bought your last phone. Musk: “There really won’t be anything that AI can’t do better than humans, apart from being human perhaps.” Being human was never the point. It was the method. For ten thousand years a person’s worth ran on simple accounting. We mattered because we were needed. Dignity was subsidized by usefulness. We never had to admit that because there was no other supplier. There’s a supplier now. Musk doesn’t read that as a loss. Musk: “The most likely outcome is an age of amazing abundance, where anyone can have anything they can think of.” Anything they can think of. That condition is doing all the work. The bottleneck moves. Out of the world. Into you. Desire was never independent. It was built by absence. Every appetite you have was shaped by something you couldn’t reach. Remove the absence and desire doesn’t get satisfied. It loses the thing that made it. Abundance isn’t the answer to what we wanted. It’s the audit. Scarcity was never only a wall. It was a mercy. It’s why the book stayed unwritten and the company stayed a sketch on a napkin. Not enough time. Not enough money. Every person alive carries a version of themselves that has never once been tested. Scarcity is what kept that version safe. Musk: “Here we are in 2026, let’s see where we stand in 2036.” He isn’t scheduling a machine. He’s scheduling the year the excuse expires. The ceiling was never your raw intelligence. It was friction. Capital, access, permission, the thousand small refusals between an idea and a real thing. All of it going to nearly zero. Whatever you actually are finally gets to exist at full size. A few wants survive it. To build something. To be known by someone. To be chosen by a person who could have walked. Being needed and being loved have always arrived together. Nobody has ever had to tell them apart. We’re the first people who get to find out which one we were receiving. It will be the first honest answer anybody has been given. Anything that must help you is not choosing you. Every kindness you have ever received was made of something that could have been withheld. The moment a thing is guaranteed, it stops being given. Being human is not a skill to be outperformed. It’s a stance no system can take on your behalf. Machines will say yes to anything you ask them. They will never tell you what to ask for. The species spent every year of its existence proving it earned the right to be here. Nothing ever asked it to. The machines inherit everything we could do. We keep everything we are. For all of history that was the consolation prize. It’s about to be the whole inheritance.

Dustin

33,744 次观看 • 20 天前

$ELON: HUMAN INTELLIGENCE WILL BE DWARFED BY MACHINE INTELLIGENCE “Human intelligence, I think, will be dwarfed by machine intelligence. I'm not sure how to feel about that, except that it appears to be inevitable that at some point, human intelligence will be a very small fraction of total intelligence. Digital intelligence will be more than 99% of all intelligence in the future. So, hopefully, the computers are nice to us.” Source: Dubai World Government Summit, February 13, 2025 Elon Musk$

ELON: HUMAN INTELLIGENCE WILL BE DWARFED BY MACHINE INTELLIGENCE “Human intelligence, I think, will be dwarfed by machine intelligence. I'm not sure how to feel about that, except that it appears to be inevitable that at some point, human intelligence will be a very small fraction of total intelligence. Digital intelligence will be more than 99% of all intelligence in the future. So, hopefully, the computers are nice to us.” Source: Dubai World Government Summit, February 13, 2025 Elon Musk

Mario Nawfal

113,484 次观看 • 1 年前