Jay is getting mogged.

@StefanMolyneux Uhhh dude this is nonsense out of Stefan LOL you think this was a shining moment for him 😭😭😭

If you think “the nature of matter is matter” is a coherent argument then you don’t matter

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Platonists look like demented psychopaths the second they get challenged in public.

Jay: "Have you observed the history of the universe, no..." Jay destroyed baldy.

@StefanMolyneux Stefan crushed it. Jay never made one coherent argument for the existence of god. All I got was he thinks concepts are magic therefore god is real. I think that’s what he was saying anyway

I think you’re brain is mogged

Not a fan of Jay, but you are obviously retarded, get well son

Jay won handily.

to be fair they're arguing from different paradigms because they're rejecting one another's presuppositions so if you accept Molyneux's then it looks like Jay is getting mogged but the reverse is also true

"Logos logic"

@_LOGOSLOGIC_ Man, you really love non-arguments, don't you?

@_LOGOSLOGIC_ What's the counter argument to a reaction gif?

reason is mogging your post, actually.

What's the prompt?

@StefanMolyneux Very disrespectful for Jay to show up to a debate looking like that

Molys the guy who told you to only date atheist girls. What a f****** idiot

"matters gives birth to reason" uhh what? Where was this observed?

Stable and predictable elements of matter? Did matter exist for all time, or does Stefan believe in a creation story like the "Big Bang?" If so, matter hasn't been "stable and predictable" for all time. If he thinks matter has always existed, how does he account for entropy?

Stefan sounds like he’s trying to convince himself.

@StefanMolyneux This is what an over-educated asshole sounds like…….relentless appeals to authority as a basis of his entire world view

there is something below matter, it's called the aether. waves can't propagate on nothing, there has to be a substrate.

Saying "we know" isnt an argument.

I don't think you understand what "mogged" means. Jay roasted this guy. The nature of matter is matter? Truly pathetic. I've never seen someone so outclassed. This was just embarrassing.

Lmmfao. This is what happens to you when you can't mute and kick the person. You get exposed. Can't wait for the cope stream where he calls that guy every name in the book and declares victory.

Really? Because "it just is" is not an argument, nor a sufficient grounding for one

Yes Jay was a Mean Girl from the beggining

Gay Lyer lost

"Reason comes out of Matter" is retarded. Go get a bunch of chemicals and start mixing them until a new law of logic pops out. logic now has molecular formulas? where on the periodic table does it show what rules come from which atoms in the element box? P.S. I hate dyer

I’m a Christian, but Moly definitely got this one right. Everyone has to assume sense data, criticizing your opponent for having to assume it is nonsense because you do the same thing.

He ran away from Mahler but not Molyneux.

I went to check this. Yes he did. He completely wiped the floor with Jay Dyer. I'm amazed how well Stephan was able to keep up with the arguments.

You people are so fucking retarded

Yeah but you're a fucking idiot

@StefanMolyneux Stephan Molyneux obviously wins

Lol. This is great rage bait, just lie about reality and put a rambling babbling man saying nonsense.

Neoplatonism is superior to Jay Dyer, and Stephane M. reality view.