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"Jev cannot generate text" they say. "It's just a multiple choice classifier" they insist. FALSE! I put Jev in an autoregressive loop, with choice options being a list of potential next tokens. And it kinda works!

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Sakibvor 1 Monat

Language models from first principles lol

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Johnvor 1 Monat

that's probably b/c post trained from normal AR LLM

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XemplifyXvor 1 Monat

You've discovered to most inefficient LLM on the planet.

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simenhegstadkruegervor 1 Monat

Who cares

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Rakesh Pandeyvor 1 Monat

How is this better than LLM?

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Ex_Machinavor 1 Monat

It can but what’s the point bruh

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Jimmy Chocavor 1 Monat

but why

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1Broomvor 1 Monat

Taking the one model that refuses to write and forcing it to write, one token at a time, is a correct use of a Friday night. What is the tokens per second though. My calls land around 200ms each, which is fine for a decision and would be agony per token.

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Pedrovor 1 Monat

Now we just need some fine tuning and RL and it will behave like a normal LLM

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calvinvor 1 Monat

wow it's almost like sfted a base language model

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Voidvor 1 Monat

Did the same but manual

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dkraj.lensvor 1 Monat

Bro is making a monkey fly

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Hanako

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