John Cena tapping was the perfect finish.

Losing was the right decision. Go out on your shield. Respect the business. But clean pin or pass out from the sleeper. His motto should have been respected. NEVER give up.

lol trying to be the heel won’t work here. It’s not that anyone who knows anything about the business thought he’d win. It’s who he lost to. Not cause people hate him, he’s just Trent Dilfer on the Ravens boring as hell. Nice try though

Sure you can argue he should have lost to someone else but how does that disprove my point

It just means I was disappointed going into tonight after the tournament, left a sour taste in my mouth going in, and ruined a massive moment for true fans. I’m not saying him losing is the wrong decision

Ok so we aren’t actually disagreeing then right?

Oh him tapping? Absolutely not. I’m saying Gunther was the wrong person, do you disagree with that? I get the blah blah storyline or whatever but he’s so as I just said “blah” and it’s annoying to watch them pull a straight Vince move

I don’t necessarily disagree

I knew it was coming, everyone obviously did. It was just annoying before it happened and when it finally did the annoying went overboard. Do I understand? Totally. Am I still annoyed with the way it played out. Totally

I guess for me it just felt like a missed moment for a star who really needed to be pushed and a missed opportunity. That’s what Cena is all about and why it’s sour

I love this perspective because I’ve always wondered what it was like living in Joseph Stalin’s Soviet Empire where nobody was allowed to be happy.

😂

The argument, kind sir, is there wasn't an issue with the booking as much as the emotionless delivery of it. Did it need to be Austin-Bret with a bloody pass out? Not necessarily. But this didn't live up to expectations of a year-long build. HBK-Flair moved me. This didn't.

I totally agree with you on this

You thought you cooked

“yOu DoNt UnDeRStAnD pRoFFeSiOnAl wReStLiNg” 🙄 Cena losing wasn’t at all the issue with any “ball knowers”! Even half the kids understand the passing of the torch aspect. It was the WRONG opponent & it was the WRONG way to lose! That simple😒

No one that knows wrestling is upset he lost. We’re upset at the way he lost. The “Never Give Up” mantra transcends wrestling. He could’ve been pinned or passed out, but he should NOT have given up.

Shouldn’t have tapped but I have no problem with him losing can’t have “never give up” as a motto only to give up .

I get why they did it … but when you have 20k people leaving an arena that spent I dunno 10 mil ? All of them leaving upset and BOOING the booker , then you did something wrong. Gunther is a 38 year old former world champ , he’s not bron breakker on the way up.

The best part was the stupid look he gave to the camera just before tapping. Dude’s face said “watch this dumb ass finish”

Realizing he’d go out on his back & the match sucked can both be true. Also WWE thinking this puts Walter over? Nah.

Poetic justice. This was one of the greatest endings in WWE history. Im still digesting this masterpiece.

I think its stupid and wrong for ANYONE to tap to a sleeper hold. You tap bc youre in pain and you're worried about some kind of injury. A sleeper and how it should be handled is defined in the name. Everyone should fight it until they pass out.

He gave back to wrestling for 23 years. His last couple months was losing to Dom (I actually like this, put the young guy over) but getting obliterated by 50 year old Brock was terrible and Gunther is 40. He put over a dude who is out in a couple years.

Would’ve been perfect finish if gunther didn’t tap to jey uso in a CHOKEHOLD AT MANIA 😭

Stop talking shite i get what your saying and all I do is watch wrestling so I think i know ball and I hated just because people don't like it doesn't mean they dont know ball fs it was a bad match and a shit ending and the hole arena was booing do they not know ball either

I'm not saying you had to like it, just that it was the most obvious result

I would have had Cena throw up the hand like he did and then drop his hand. Signalling that he passed out. "Never. Gave. Up"

Knew he was gonna lose, but it shouldnt have been a tap. Ill Die on that hill.

Facts. 😂

this what i was saying

I understand professional wrestling. I just wanted them for once let a legend retire in a win. I bet the whole losing thing talking out having never tapping out. But just this once a legend like Cena should have ended with him winning.

He was always going to lose. Anyone who didn’t think is in denial or just a mark. Could the opponent been better? More significant! Yes. But going out on your back is one thing but the never give up guy tapping out? That’s just lame.

tell this self righteous mark that no one would have had a problem if he lost this match in a clean manner. You dont have to be choked like that. There is pro wrestling heat, then there is real life heat, guess they didn't learn nothing from the Reigns saga back in the day.

Exactly. If you didn't l Iike the ending tonight. As the kids say .....you don't know ball

As someone who trained and worked Indy shows for years, you’re spot on. There is a time and honored tradition to pay it forward. I’m shocked how many people missed Cena smile, then tap to pass it forward to Gunther. Was legit the perfect finish. In your words, “You know ball” 👊

@DappperMax @_generalprince ahh ok

The way you sound says it all

Here is why it wasn't. Cena's motto is never give up, he tapped out, he gave up. Real World: We have to remember, a lot of kids look up to Cena, they use wrestling as an outlet for their troubles, this sent a very bad message to them.

SYBAU I've been watching longer than you've been alive. Gunther was already over. I don't see him any differently. What that did for everyone was make "Never give up" a lie.

Him losing was never the problem. The opponent and even further the tap out is the problem. If cena passed out that means he didn’t give up his body did which would change the tone of the whole outcome

This is a Mike Tyson Buster Douglas type situation Nobody gives af that Gunther beat John Cena and he won’t go on to be some great wrestler. Giving Cena a Kobe Bryant ending wasn’t going to hurt the business