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Just when you thought things couldn’t get any crazier...

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ringwiss1 year ago

😳

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ringwiss1 year ago

‘I make a point of order that points of order are in order...’ The Senate’s procedural paradoxes never cease to amaze me.

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ringwiss1 year ago

The world’s greatest deliberative body has the right idea.

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ringwiss1 year ago

I should have said this at the start: the issue is that this (statutory) rule prohibits points of order, but it also seems to imply that you can appeal from rulings of the chair on points of order—but how can there be a point of order?

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ringwiss1 year ago

I don’t know what the right answer to Thune’s point of order is, but *at best* these provisions are confusing. I’ve said this before, but Congress really needs to rewrite and consolidate all the different fast-track procedures; there are some that are *much* worse than the CRA.

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ringwiss1 year ago

Conclusion: You cannot make a point of order while another point of order is pending.

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ringwiss1 year ago

More dilatory motions

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ringwiss1 year ago

The cooler way to do this would be to have other senators offer amendments to the motion to recess to substitute a different time.

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ringwiss1 year ago

And another one...

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ringwiss1 year ago

Still going

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ringwiss1 year ago

How long until the Senate bans dilatory motions?

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ringwiss1 year ago

The funniest possible outcome here would be if Thune’s point of order got filibustered so hard that they had to use cloture on it.

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ringwiss1 year ago

They got bored of the motion to recess!

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ringwiss1 year ago

Why restrict yourself to the motions you find in the rulebook?

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ringwiss1 year ago

They finally got to the point of order!

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ringwiss1 year ago

Conclusion #2: Points of order are in order under the Congressional Review Act.

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ringwiss1 year ago

😳

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ringwiss1 year ago

Conclusion #3: Joint resolutions that meet all the requirements of section 802 of the CRA or are disapproving of agency actions which have been determined to be rules subject to the CRA by a legal decision from the GAO are entitled to expedited procedures under the CRA.

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ringwiss1 year ago

Final conclusion: When the cloture threshold gets nuked, it will not be by overturning a ruling of the chair, but by sustaining a point of order submitted by the presiding officer to the Senate.

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ringwiss1 year ago

Oh, one more thing... For most budget points of order, overturning a ruling of the chair requires 60 votes. If the presiding officer decided to submit that point of order to the Senate for its decision, only a simple majority (or a tie vote) would be required to overrule it. 😳

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Sensibo1 year ago

📷 A tough day in the jungle—how does this sloth overcome it? The twist you didn’t see coming

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