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Laguna XS 2.1 just matched Qwen 3.6 35B on a real coding task & ran twice as fast. > Same RTX 3090 > Laguna: 158 tok/s. Qwen: 81 tok/s The local model race isn't about size anymore. It's about who moves faster.

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5 days ago it took 2 GPUs to build this. today it takes 1. same prompt. same particle simulation. completely different model. Qwen-Coder-Next (80B) on 2x 3090s. 46 tok/s. 564 lines. 2 iterations to get it working. 48GB VRAM across two cards just to hold it. Qwen3.5-35B-A3B on a single 3090. 112 tok/s. 461 lines. first try. cleaner code, fewer lines, better structured. 19.7GB on disk with 4GB VRAM to spare. half the parameters. one GPU instead of two. 2.4x faster. and the output actually improved. this is what happens when architecture catches up to ambition. Gated Delta Networks(Mamba2 variant) hybrid with sparse MoE. 3B active params out of 35B per token. efficiency at the architecture level, not just quantization. the curve isn't flattening. it's steepening.
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5 days ago it took 2 GPUs to build this. today it takes 1. same prompt. same particle simulation. completely different model. Qwen-Coder-Next (80B) on 2x 3090s. 46 tok/s. 564 lines. 2 iterations to get it working. 48GB VRAM across two cards just to hold it. Qwen3.5-35B-A3B on a single 3090. 112 tok/s. 461 lines. first try. cleaner code, fewer lines, better structured. 19.7GB on disk with 4GB VRAM to spare. half the parameters. one GPU instead of two. 2.4x faster. and the output actually improved. this is what happens when architecture catches up to ambition. Gated Delta Networks(Mamba2 variant) hybrid with sparse MoE. 3B active params out of 35B per token. efficiency at the architecture level, not just quantization. the curve isn't flattening. it's steepening.

Sudo su

34,624 次观看 • 6 个月前

If you have an RTX 3090 or 4090, Mia just shipped you a free massive upgrade in both speed and intelligence. I will explain to you why this will make your Qwen 3.8 27B on your card, even better, and my flags for running it. Qwen3.8-27B, EXL3 3.5bpw, DFlash2 speculative decode, RTX 4090. Single stream. The kit is from MiaAI-Lab, EXL3 is turboderp's format. I re-measured everything on my own card because the my first benchmarks seemed off. It turns out it really does run much faster. WHY EXL3 IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL The old way (Q4_K_M) rounds each weight to the nearest 4-bit value independently. Every weight introduces its own rounding error. Those errors accumulate across millions of weights and causes drift (Slightly dumber). EXL3 is a fundamentally different compression algorithm. Instead of rounding each weight on its own, it encodes the entire weight vector as a path through a constrained codebook and spreads the rounding error across dimensions using a Hadamard transform. The result is that at the same bits per weight, more of the original model's intelligence is preserved. The important part is this CAN ACTUALLY BE MEASURED. The cleanest way to see that is KL divergence against a high-precision teacher. Lower means the quantized model thinks more like the original. On the malaiwah independent teacher-logit panel for GLM-5.3-Flash: EXL3 4bpw: 0.0246 nats Official FP8: 0.0206 nats NVFP4: 0.0605 nats EXL3 sits 0.004 nats behind native FP8 at half the size. NVFP4 at higher bit width is 2.5x further from the teacher. That panel is GLM-5.3-Flash, not Qwen 3.8. Cited as the mechanism, not as this run's data. But the point stands: EXL3 is not just smaller, it is smarter per bit than the formats most people are running. WHAT I MEASURED I first measure 108 tok/s from a single run. After that number looked too good to be true. I reran it. It looks like after a warm up, the numbers are even better. Basically, like people long thought, the RTX 3090 and RTX 4090 are actually superb AI computer cards. Hence why NVIDIA stopped shipping them with NVLINK since the 4090. Short context ceiling (~2k in, 1016-token output, TTFT-separated): 135, 138, 153, 174, 133, 129 tok/s across 6 runs. Sustained longform (2040-token essay): 105.4, 94.5, 98.4 tok/s Short answer (504 tokens): 93.2 tok/s The honest shape: ~130-150 tok/s at short context is the ceiling, ~94-105 sustained on longform. The ceiling matters because that is what people feel in chat. The old dense Q4_K_M on llama.cpp ran ~37 tok/s on this same card. (No MTP), with MTP about 60 tok/s Sustained is roughly 2.5-3x. Ceiling is closer to 4x. Same model, different quantization and engine. The multiplier comes from EXL3, the ExLlamaV2 engine, and DFlash2 together. CONCURRENCY IS A RTX 4090 LANE. Just like the old config on the 4090, the 24gb vram, means a long context can only hold one stream, and running concurrency requires to lower context length, because it runs fast it sort of makes up for it by being faster than slower GPU chips. CONTEXT LADDER The recipe doc measured prefill. I re-ran it with TTFT separated from decode, because decode is what you actually feel after the first token. ~5k in: decode 140 tok/s (TTFT 0.5s), needle HIT ~18k in: decode 85 tok/s (TTFT 0.3s*), needle HIT ~73k in: decode 28 tok/s (TTFT 1.8s), needle HIT ~146k in: decode 16 tok/s (TTFT 2.3s), needle HIT (*0.3s at 18k is a prefix-cache hit from the paired pass. Cold prefill for reference: ~2,020 tok/s at 17k falling to ~508 at 153k.) Needle hit at every depth, mine and the original 7/7. Retrieval is intact at max context. Speed is not: decode falls ~9x from short to max. Past ~50k tokens this stops being a chat tool and becomes a batch tool. At 146k it works, but nobody is typing interactively against 16 tok/s. WHERE IT BROKE The model's native context is 262k. The README says DFlash2 fits ~220k on a 24GB card. My 200,704-token attempt failed with insufficient VRAM. Dropped to 168,960 and it booted. The real ceiling is somewhere between 168,960 and 200,704 and I never tested that gap. I jumped to a value that worked and called it done. That is ~32k tokens of context I left on the table. One thing the numbers taught me: JSON tokenizes at ~1.5 chars/token, prose at ~3.9. "150k tokens of JSON" needs ~2.7x more filler than the same estimate in prose. Size by real tokens, not estimates. THE UPGRADE If you own a 4090 and you are running Q4_K_M on llama.cpp, you are leaving a good bit of speed and measurable intelligence on the table. The same model, on the same card, with a better quantization and engine, goes from 60 tok/s to 130-150 at short context and 94-105 sustained. The model also thinks closer to the original because EXL3 preserves more of the output distribution per bit than the old rounding method. The recipe is in the first reply. Everything above came from one 4090 and one afternoon of re-measuring. The decode ladder especially needs independent numbers. If your card gets different falloff, that is worth knowing. Recipe and flags/ findings in reply 👇
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If you have an RTX 3090 or 4090, Mia just shipped you a free massive upgrade in both speed and intelligence. I will explain to you why this will make your Qwen 3.8 27B on your card, even better, and my flags for running it. Qwen3.8-27B, EXL3 3.5bpw, DFlash2 speculative decode, RTX 4090. Single stream. The kit is from MiaAI-Lab, EXL3 is turboderp's format. I re-measured everything on my own card because the my first benchmarks seemed off. It turns out it really does run much faster. WHY EXL3 IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL The old way (Q4_K_M) rounds each weight to the nearest 4-bit value independently. Every weight introduces its own rounding error. Those errors accumulate across millions of weights and causes drift (Slightly dumber). EXL3 is a fundamentally different compression algorithm. Instead of rounding each weight on its own, it encodes the entire weight vector as a path through a constrained codebook and spreads the rounding error across dimensions using a Hadamard transform. The result is that at the same bits per weight, more of the original model's intelligence is preserved. The important part is this CAN ACTUALLY BE MEASURED. The cleanest way to see that is KL divergence against a high-precision teacher. Lower means the quantized model thinks more like the original. On the malaiwah independent teacher-logit panel for GLM-5.3-Flash: EXL3 4bpw: 0.0246 nats Official FP8: 0.0206 nats NVFP4: 0.0605 nats EXL3 sits 0.004 nats behind native FP8 at half the size. NVFP4 at higher bit width is 2.5x further from the teacher. That panel is GLM-5.3-Flash, not Qwen 3.8. Cited as the mechanism, not as this run's data. But the point stands: EXL3 is not just smaller, it is smarter per bit than the formats most people are running. WHAT I MEASURED I first measure 108 tok/s from a single run. After that number looked too good to be true. I reran it. It looks like after a warm up, the numbers are even better. Basically, like people long thought, the RTX 3090 and RTX 4090 are actually superb AI computer cards. Hence why NVIDIA stopped shipping them with NVLINK since the 4090. Short context ceiling (~2k in, 1016-token output, TTFT-separated): 135, 138, 153, 174, 133, 129 tok/s across 6 runs. Sustained longform (2040-token essay): 105.4, 94.5, 98.4 tok/s Short answer (504 tokens): 93.2 tok/s The honest shape: ~130-150 tok/s at short context is the ceiling, ~94-105 sustained on longform. The ceiling matters because that is what people feel in chat. The old dense Q4_K_M on llama.cpp ran ~37 tok/s on this same card. (No MTP), with MTP about 60 tok/s Sustained is roughly 2.5-3x. Ceiling is closer to 4x. Same model, different quantization and engine. The multiplier comes from EXL3, the ExLlamaV2 engine, and DFlash2 together. CONCURRENCY IS A RTX 4090 LANE. Just like the old config on the 4090, the 24gb vram, means a long context can only hold one stream, and running concurrency requires to lower context length, because it runs fast it sort of makes up for it by being faster than slower GPU chips. CONTEXT LADDER The recipe doc measured prefill. I re-ran it with TTFT separated from decode, because decode is what you actually feel after the first token. ~5k in: decode 140 tok/s (TTFT 0.5s), needle HIT ~18k in: decode 85 tok/s (TTFT 0.3s*), needle HIT ~73k in: decode 28 tok/s (TTFT 1.8s), needle HIT ~146k in: decode 16 tok/s (TTFT 2.3s), needle HIT (*0.3s at 18k is a prefix-cache hit from the paired pass. Cold prefill for reference: ~2,020 tok/s at 17k falling to ~508 at 153k.) Needle hit at every depth, mine and the original 7/7. Retrieval is intact at max context. Speed is not: decode falls ~9x from short to max. Past ~50k tokens this stops being a chat tool and becomes a batch tool. At 146k it works, but nobody is typing interactively against 16 tok/s. WHERE IT BROKE The model's native context is 262k. The README says DFlash2 fits ~220k on a 24GB card. My 200,704-token attempt failed with insufficient VRAM. Dropped to 168,960 and it booted. The real ceiling is somewhere between 168,960 and 200,704 and I never tested that gap. I jumped to a value that worked and called it done. That is ~32k tokens of context I left on the table. One thing the numbers taught me: JSON tokenizes at ~1.5 chars/token, prose at ~3.9. "150k tokens of JSON" needs ~2.7x more filler than the same estimate in prose. Size by real tokens, not estimates. THE UPGRADE If you own a 4090 and you are running Q4_K_M on llama.cpp, you are leaving a good bit of speed and measurable intelligence on the table. The same model, on the same card, with a better quantization and engine, goes from 60 tok/s to 130-150 at short context and 94-105 sustained. The model also thinks closer to the original because EXL3 preserves more of the output distribution per bit than the old rounding method. The recipe is in the first reply. Everything above came from one 4090 and one afternoon of re-measuring. The decode ladder especially needs independent numbers. If your card gets different falloff, that is worth knowing. Recipe and flags/ findings in reply 👇

Yume_X

38,511 次观看 • 11 天前

vllm-exl3 v0.3.0 is LIVE with custom native CUDA kernels for 2-bit EXL3 on NVIDIA DGX Spark GB10. GLM-5.3-Flash-EXL3-K2 jumped from 16.9 → 24.6 tok/s average single-stream decode, a +45.6% gain. Coding hit 27.6 tok/s, +85.6%. 🚀 The previous ExLlamaV3-backed path inside vLLM was leaving a lot of GB10 bandwidth on the table. So I rewrote the hot path specifically for EXL3 on Blackwell sm_121: → in-register Trellis dequantization → native fused MoE decode → power-of-two chunked prefill GEMM → parallel NVMe pre-warm Then I tested it side-by-side on physical DGX Spark hardware using my GLM-5.3-Flash-EXL3-K2 pack and live vLLM HTTP streaming. 🚀 𝗗𝗘𝗖𝗢𝗗𝗘 𝗧𝗛𝗥𝗢𝗨𝗚𝗛𝗣𝗨𝗧 Single-stream C1: Coding 14.9 → 27.6 tok/s +85.6% Prose 13.7 → 24.6 tok/s +79.3% Reasoning 18.9 → 25.1 tok/s +32.7% Summary 17.1 → 25.6 tok/s +50.0% Format 16.3 → 24.0 tok/s +47.7% Average: 16.9 → 24.6 tok/s 𝗡𝗘𝗧 𝗚𝗔𝗜𝗡: +45.6% ⏱️ 𝗙𝗜𝗥𝗦𝗧-𝗧𝗢𝗞𝗘𝗡 𝗥𝗘𝗦𝗣𝗢𝗡𝗦𝗜𝗩𝗘𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 Coding TTFT: 2,344 ms → 859 ms That is a 63.3% reduction, or about 2.7× faster to first token. Follow-up turn with prefix cache hit: 5,608 ms → 3,588 ms 1.56× faster. ⚡ 𝗪𝗛𝗔𝗧 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗚𝗘𝗗 𝗢𝗡 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗚𝗣𝗨 40 routed-MoE layers: 19.9 ms → 11.5 ms per token Per-layer MoE compute: 497 μs → 287.8 μs That removes 8.4 ms of MoE compute from every generated token. Total per-step wall time: 59.2 ms → 40.6 ms -31.4% The key is `p2b_fused_moe`. Instead of expanding EXL3 weights through a traditional intermediate path, the new kernel performs Trellis dequantization in-register while executing the routed expert computation. The weights stay compressed until the GPU actually needs them. 🔥 𝗣𝗥𝗘𝗙𝗜𝗟𝗟 𝗚𝗢𝗧 𝗔 𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗩𝗘 𝗣𝗔𝗧𝗛 𝗧𝗢𝗢 The new `exl3_gemm` uses power-of-two chunked prefill GEMM. Measured: 7.85 TFLOPS 13.0× faster than the legacy prefill kernel 1,875 tok/s cold prefill sustained across 65K context 💾 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗕𝗢𝗢𝗧 𝗣𝗔𝗧𝗛 𝗡𝗘𝗘𝗗𝗘𝗗 𝗪𝗢𝗥𝗞 𝗧𝗢𝗢 Loading a ~91 GiB model is part of the user experience. Standard shard loading is mostly serial. The updated recipe parallelizes NVMe pre-warm across 8 workers so the storage controller gets used properly instead of feeding a ~100 GiB model one shard at a time. That turns boot-time storage into another optimization target instead of something we simply accept. 💡 𝗧𝗪𝗢 𝗦𝗘𝗥𝗩𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗙𝗟𝗔𝗚𝗦 𝗪𝗢𝗥𝗧𝗛 𝗞𝗡𝗢𝗪𝗜𝗡𝗚 `--long-prefill-token-threshold 1024` Prevents giant prefill chunks from monopolizing step budgets and starving parallel decode sessions. `--enable-prefix-caching` Avoids paying for the same conversational prefix again on follow-up turns. 📦 𝗘𝗩𝗘𝗥𝗬𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗜𝗦 𝗢𝗣𝗘𝗡 vllm-exl3: GLM-5.3-Flash one-Spark recipe: Model: This is why I like working at the kernel level. The model did not change. The quant did not change. The hardware did not change. The execution path did. 16.9 → 24.6 tok/s. 🛠️ vLLM turboderp
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vllm-exl3 v0.3.0 is LIVE with custom native CUDA kernels for 2-bit EXL3 on NVIDIA DGX Spark GB10. GLM-5.3-Flash-EXL3-K2 jumped from 16.9 → 24.6 tok/s average single-stream decode, a +45.6% gain. Coding hit 27.6 tok/s, +85.6%. 🚀 The previous ExLlamaV3-backed path inside vLLM was leaving a lot of GB10 bandwidth on the table. So I rewrote the hot path specifically for EXL3 on Blackwell sm_121: → in-register Trellis dequantization → native fused MoE decode → power-of-two chunked prefill GEMM → parallel NVMe pre-warm Then I tested it side-by-side on physical DGX Spark hardware using my GLM-5.3-Flash-EXL3-K2 pack and live vLLM HTTP streaming. 🚀 𝗗𝗘𝗖𝗢𝗗𝗘 𝗧𝗛𝗥𝗢𝗨𝗚𝗛𝗣𝗨𝗧 Single-stream C1: Coding 14.9 → 27.6 tok/s +85.6% Prose 13.7 → 24.6 tok/s +79.3% Reasoning 18.9 → 25.1 tok/s +32.7% Summary 17.1 → 25.6 tok/s +50.0% Format 16.3 → 24.0 tok/s +47.7% Average: 16.9 → 24.6 tok/s 𝗡𝗘𝗧 𝗚𝗔𝗜𝗡: +45.6% ⏱️ 𝗙𝗜𝗥𝗦𝗧-𝗧𝗢𝗞𝗘𝗡 𝗥𝗘𝗦𝗣𝗢𝗡𝗦𝗜𝗩𝗘𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 Coding TTFT: 2,344 ms → 859 ms That is a 63.3% reduction, or about 2.7× faster to first token. Follow-up turn with prefix cache hit: 5,608 ms → 3,588 ms 1.56× faster. ⚡ 𝗪𝗛𝗔𝗧 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗚𝗘𝗗 𝗢𝗡 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗚𝗣𝗨 40 routed-MoE layers: 19.9 ms → 11.5 ms per token Per-layer MoE compute: 497 μs → 287.8 μs That removes 8.4 ms of MoE compute from every generated token. Total per-step wall time: 59.2 ms → 40.6 ms -31.4% The key is `p2b_fused_moe`. Instead of expanding EXL3 weights through a traditional intermediate path, the new kernel performs Trellis dequantization in-register while executing the routed expert computation. The weights stay compressed until the GPU actually needs them. 🔥 𝗣𝗥𝗘𝗙𝗜𝗟𝗟 𝗚𝗢𝗧 𝗔 𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗩𝗘 𝗣𝗔𝗧𝗛 𝗧𝗢𝗢 The new `exl3_gemm` uses power-of-two chunked prefill GEMM. Measured: 7.85 TFLOPS 13.0× faster than the legacy prefill kernel 1,875 tok/s cold prefill sustained across 65K context 💾 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗕𝗢𝗢𝗧 𝗣𝗔𝗧𝗛 𝗡𝗘𝗘𝗗𝗘𝗗 𝗪𝗢𝗥𝗞 𝗧𝗢𝗢 Loading a ~91 GiB model is part of the user experience. Standard shard loading is mostly serial. The updated recipe parallelizes NVMe pre-warm across 8 workers so the storage controller gets used properly instead of feeding a ~100 GiB model one shard at a time. That turns boot-time storage into another optimization target instead of something we simply accept. 💡 𝗧𝗪𝗢 𝗦𝗘𝗥𝗩𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗙𝗟𝗔𝗚𝗦 𝗪𝗢𝗥𝗧𝗛 𝗞𝗡𝗢𝗪𝗜𝗡𝗚 `--long-prefill-token-threshold 1024` Prevents giant prefill chunks from monopolizing step budgets and starving parallel decode sessions. `--enable-prefix-caching` Avoids paying for the same conversational prefix again on follow-up turns. 📦 𝗘𝗩𝗘𝗥𝗬𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗜𝗦 𝗢𝗣𝗘𝗡 vllm-exl3: GLM-5.3-Flash one-Spark recipe: Model: This is why I like working at the kernel level. The model did not change. The quant did not change. The hardware did not change. The execution path did. 16.9 → 24.6 tok/s. 🛠️ vLLM turboderp

Cruz

20,954 次观看 • 11 天前

Gemma 4 12B QAT (dense) achieves 1000+ tokens/sec prefill on 8GB VRAM with 120k context Gemma 4 12B QAT (dense), TurboQuant (Without MTP), RTX 4060 8GB VRAM: Prefill: 1000+ tok/s (42% increase) Decode: 25+ tok/s (25% increase) Context: 120k (150% increase) prefill was 700 tok/sec and decode 20 tok/sec with only 48k context without turbo quant (older test with mtp link in the comments) llama.cpp TurboQuant flags: -m gemma-4-12B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 120000 --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v turbo3 -ngl 99 --port 8080 tested with a 27k prompt, 120k context loaded. -ngl 99 here isn't a typo, full 12B dense, every layer on GPU, on an 8GB card. that's the part worth sitting with. The model has vision, audio input, thinking/reasoning and fits your 8GB card. TurboQuant's KV cache savings are what free up the room to do that at 120k context. side by side with yesterday: 26B A4B MoE got 320+ tok/s prefill. this dense 12B is clearing 1000+ rig: RTX 4060 8GB · i7H · 16GB RAM same two flags as yesterday, different model size: --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v turbo3 thanks to TheTom/llama-cpp-turboquant, TurboQuant fork of llama.cpp by Tom Turney (Tom Turney) to make this work. unsloth's model quant huggingface and the llama.cpp fork github link in the comments Do you prefer a dense or a MoE for your 8GB card?
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Gemma 4 12B QAT (dense) achieves 1000+ tokens/sec prefill on 8GB VRAM with 120k context Gemma 4 12B QAT (dense), TurboQuant (Without MTP), RTX 4060 8GB VRAM: Prefill: 1000+ tok/s (42% increase) Decode: 25+ tok/s (25% increase) Context: 120k (150% increase) prefill was 700 tok/sec and decode 20 tok/sec with only 48k context without turbo quant (older test with mtp link in the comments) llama.cpp TurboQuant flags: -m gemma-4-12B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 120000 --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v turbo3 -ngl 99 --port 8080 tested with a 27k prompt, 120k context loaded. -ngl 99 here isn't a typo, full 12B dense, every layer on GPU, on an 8GB card. that's the part worth sitting with. The model has vision, audio input, thinking/reasoning and fits your 8GB card. TurboQuant's KV cache savings are what free up the room to do that at 120k context. side by side with yesterday: 26B A4B MoE got 320+ tok/s prefill. this dense 12B is clearing 1000+ rig: RTX 4060 8GB · i7H · 16GB RAM same two flags as yesterday, different model size: --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v turbo3 thanks to TheTom/llama-cpp-turboquant, TurboQuant fork of llama.cpp by Tom Turney (Tom Turney) to make this work. unsloth's model quant huggingface and the llama.cpp fork github link in the comments Do you prefer a dense or a MoE for your 8GB card?

Alok

34,500 次观看 • 2 个月前

Qwen 3.8 27B Q4_K_M - 90 tokens/sec on a single NVIDIA RTX 4090 (24 GB VRAM) with Dflash2! (MTP 60 tps -> 90 tps Dflash2!!!!) Local AI moves so fast (literally!) it’s terrifying. Z lab just dropped DFlash 2 for Qwen 3.8 27b and Muse Glimmer. I patched llama.cpp (PR #27342) and paired it with Unsloth’s Qwen 3.8 27B UD-Q4_K_XL quant. The result? Lossless 90 tokens/s decode. My last post highlighted native MTP hitting 60 t/s at 130,000 context. But DFlash 2 just completely shattered that ceiling. By using parallel block diffusion drafting (predicting whole blocks of tokens in a single pass using dynamic convolutions), DFlash achieves a massive 5.39 token acceptance rate. THE ALPHA TWEAK: `n-max 7` eats too much VRAM for draft states. But if you drop the draft limit to `--spec-draft-n-max 4`, you slash the VRAM overhead and actually increase the throughput. Here is the new 24GB VRAM Physics Matrix (DFlash 2 @ n-max 4): - 30k Context: 1,725 t/s prefill | 87.05 t/s decode | 22.2 GB VRAM - 80k Context: 1,789 t/s prefill | 84.20 t/s decode | 23.3 GB VRAM - 110k Context: 1,767 t/s prefill | 83.35 t/s decode | 23.96 GB VRAM (110k context at 83+ tokens a second sitting exactly on the 24GB hardware limit is absolute wizardry). How to compile the PR today: git clone cd llama.cpp git fetch origin pull/27342/head:pr-27342 git switch pr-27342 cmake -B build -DGGML_CUDA=ON && cmake --build build -j Llama.cpp flags for Dflash (110k Context Ceiling): ./build/bin/llama-server -m Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -md Qwen3.8-27B-DFlash2-Q4_K_M.gguf --spec-type draft-dflash --spec-draft-n-max 4 -c 110000 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -ctv q4_0 -ctk q4_0 The fact that the open source community is shipping block diffusion drafters so quickly that run entirely locally on a gaming GPU is unbelievable. If you own a single RTX 3090 or 4090, it is officially time to upgrade to qwen 3.8 27b with dflash 2 and cancel your API subscriptions and let local silicon eat the cloud. This model beats GPT 5.6 Terra, GLM 5.2 DeepSeek V4 Pro, Muse Spark 1.2 and Claude Opus 4.8 on the artificial analysis agentic index (details in the replies) Hugging Face GGUF links (Base + DFlash2) and the full visual VRAM scaling and Dflash2 vs MTP graphs are also in the replies below. are you sticking to native MTP for the 130k context, or sacrificing 20k context to redline your decode speed? How many tokens/sec are you pushing on your current local rig?
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Qwen 3.8 27B Q4_K_M - 90 tokens/sec on a single NVIDIA RTX 4090 (24 GB VRAM) with Dflash2! (MTP 60 tps -> 90 tps Dflash2!!!!) Local AI moves so fast (literally!) it’s terrifying. Z lab just dropped DFlash 2 for Qwen 3.8 27b and Muse Glimmer. I patched llama.cpp (PR #27342) and paired it with Unsloth’s Qwen 3.8 27B UD-Q4_K_XL quant. The result? Lossless 90 tokens/s decode. My last post highlighted native MTP hitting 60 t/s at 130,000 context. But DFlash 2 just completely shattered that ceiling. By using parallel block diffusion drafting (predicting whole blocks of tokens in a single pass using dynamic convolutions), DFlash achieves a massive 5.39 token acceptance rate. THE ALPHA TWEAK: `n-max 7` eats too much VRAM for draft states. But if you drop the draft limit to `--spec-draft-n-max 4`, you slash the VRAM overhead and actually increase the throughput. Here is the new 24GB VRAM Physics Matrix (DFlash 2 @ n-max 4): - 30k Context: 1,725 t/s prefill | 87.05 t/s decode | 22.2 GB VRAM - 80k Context: 1,789 t/s prefill | 84.20 t/s decode | 23.3 GB VRAM - 110k Context: 1,767 t/s prefill | 83.35 t/s decode | 23.96 GB VRAM (110k context at 83+ tokens a second sitting exactly on the 24GB hardware limit is absolute wizardry). How to compile the PR today: git clone cd llama.cpp git fetch origin pull/27342/head:pr-27342 git switch pr-27342 cmake -B build -DGGML_CUDA=ON && cmake --build build -j Llama.cpp flags for Dflash (110k Context Ceiling): ./build/bin/llama-server -m Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -md Qwen3.8-27B-DFlash2-Q4_K_M.gguf --spec-type draft-dflash --spec-draft-n-max 4 -c 110000 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -ctv q4_0 -ctk q4_0 The fact that the open source community is shipping block diffusion drafters so quickly that run entirely locally on a gaming GPU is unbelievable. If you own a single RTX 3090 or 4090, it is officially time to upgrade to qwen 3.8 27b with dflash 2 and cancel your API subscriptions and let local silicon eat the cloud. This model beats GPT 5.6 Terra, GLM 5.2 DeepSeek V4 Pro, Muse Spark 1.2 and Claude Opus 4.8 on the artificial analysis agentic index (details in the replies) Hugging Face GGUF links (Base + DFlash2) and the full visual VRAM scaling and Dflash2 vs MTP graphs are also in the replies below. are you sticking to native MTP for the 130k context, or sacrificing 20k context to redline your decode speed? How many tokens/sec are you pushing on your current local rig?

Alok

105,388 次观看 • 26 天前

🇨🇳🇺🇸 China's military may be learning from America's AI, without building it from scratch Why spend billions training a frontier AI model when you can let someone else do the expensive part? Chinese military-linked researchers have repeatedly used outputs from OpenAI and Anthropic models to train smaller domestic AI systems for surveillance, cyber operations, drone targeting, battlefield decision-making, and software analysis. The trick is called distillation: instead of copying the model itself, researchers use its answers, and more importantly, its reasoning, to teach a smaller model. The result? AI that isn't as powerful as the original, but is cheap, runs on local hardware, and can be deployed on drones, military networks, and tactical systems without relying on U.S technology. The AI arms race isn't just about who builds the smartest model anymore; it's about who can squeeze the most military value out of everyone else's. Source: Reuters / Writer: Ian
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🇨🇳🇺🇸 China's military may be learning from America's AI, without building it from scratch Why spend billions training a frontier AI model when you can let someone else do the expensive part? Chinese military-linked researchers have repeatedly used outputs from OpenAI and Anthropic models to train smaller domestic AI systems for surveillance, cyber operations, drone targeting, battlefield decision-making, and software analysis. The trick is called distillation: instead of copying the model itself, researchers use its answers, and more importantly, its reasoning, to teach a smaller model. The result? AI that isn't as powerful as the original, but is cheap, runs on local hardware, and can be deployed on drones, military networks, and tactical systems without relying on U.S technology. The AI arms race isn't just about who builds the smartest model anymore; it's about who can squeeze the most military value out of everyone else's. Source: Reuters / Writer: Ian

Mario Nawfal

47,775 次观看 • 1 个月前

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is starting to feel like the local model Opus fans have been waiting for. Someone ran the NVFP4 176B-class Flash-Next on 2× DGX Sparks, and the results are wild. Real measured scaling → C1: 44.2 tok/s → C2: 64.6 tok/s → C4: 86.8 tok/s aggregate The per-stream speed drops with concurrency, but total throughput keeps climbing. Long-context behavior was even more impressive: → 5K: needle retrieved → 21K: needle retrieved → 84K: needle retrieved → 167K: needle retrieved → 262K: prefill succeeded, but the window was saturated That 167K retrieval test is the one I care about. Long agent runs are where models usually start losing the plot. Flash-Next didn’t. It also held up surprisingly well on physics-heavy reasoning, artifact generation, research workflows, evidence checking, and long-horizon planning. The personality is interesting too. DeepSeek V4 Flash feels like the dependable workhorse. GLM-5.2 feels like the problem-solving machine. Qwen3.8-Flash-Next feels more insightful. It has that rare ability to understand what you’re actually asking rather than just following the surface pattern. The main weakness I’ve noticed is instruction following. It can occasionally drift between prose turns where DeepSeek and GLM stay tighter. And this is why the 256GB M5 Ultra conversation gets interesting. If Apple can pair that huge unified-memory pool with enough bandwidth, this model class becomes genuinely practical for long-running local agents. We’re talking about frontier-class reasoning on hardware sitting on a desk.
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Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is starting to feel like the local model Opus fans have been waiting for. Someone ran the NVFP4 176B-class Flash-Next on 2× DGX Sparks, and the results are wild. Real measured scaling → C1: 44.2 tok/s → C2: 64.6 tok/s → C4: 86.8 tok/s aggregate The per-stream speed drops with concurrency, but total throughput keeps climbing. Long-context behavior was even more impressive: → 5K: needle retrieved → 21K: needle retrieved → 84K: needle retrieved → 167K: needle retrieved → 262K: prefill succeeded, but the window was saturated That 167K retrieval test is the one I care about. Long agent runs are where models usually start losing the plot. Flash-Next didn’t. It also held up surprisingly well on physics-heavy reasoning, artifact generation, research workflows, evidence checking, and long-horizon planning. The personality is interesting too. DeepSeek V4 Flash feels like the dependable workhorse. GLM-5.2 feels like the problem-solving machine. Qwen3.8-Flash-Next feels more insightful. It has that rare ability to understand what you’re actually asking rather than just following the surface pattern. The main weakness I’ve noticed is instruction following. It can occasionally drift between prose turns where DeepSeek and GLM stay tighter. And this is why the 256GB M5 Ultra conversation gets interesting. If Apple can pair that huge unified-memory pool with enough bandwidth, this model class becomes genuinely practical for long-running local agents. We’re talking about frontier-class reasoning on hardware sitting on a desk.

FHILY👑

20,217 次观看 • 17 天前

I told you to claim your free 16GB NVIDIA GPU for learning Local LLMs. Now I’m going to show you how to double its inference speed without touching the hardware. Google Colab gives you an enterprise grade NVIDIA Tesla T4 GPU for free, roughly 4 hours every single day. It is the absolute perfect sandbox for learning AI engineering, testing inference flags, and pushing massive context windows. The local AI timeline is moving way too fast. If you aren't using Multi Token Prediction (MTP) yet, you are leaving massive performance on the table. I just pushed DeepMind’s Gemma 4 26B to 64.9 t/s on this exact free tier. Let's look at the raw benchmark data running on an Ubuntu Linux environment with the latest compiled llama.cpp binaries and quantized GGUFs from Unsloth via HuggingFace: # Qwen 3.5 9B (Dense): Base: [ Prompt: 626.7 t/s | Generation: 21.0 t/s ] With MTP: [ Prompt: 539.1 t/s | Generation: 24.8 t/s ] # Gemma 4 26B QAT (MoE): Base: [ Prompt: 634.2 t/s | Generation: 48.3 t/s ] With MTP: [ Prompt: 572.1 t/s | Generation: 64.9 t/s ] If you are paying attention, this single Colab notebook reveals 3 massive observations about the current state of local LLMs: # 1. The MTP Speedup (Software Overclocking) Standard autoregressive decoding guesses one token at a time. MTP acts like a highly optimized, built in speculative decoder. It predicts multiple future tokens at once and the main model verifies them in parallel. The result? Zero accuracy loss and a massive throughput increase. Gemma jumped from 48 to 65 t/s just by flipping a flag. # 2. The MoE Paradox (Bigger is Faster) How does a 26B parameter model absolutely destroy a 9B model in raw speed on the exact same hardware? Architecture. Qwen 3.5 9B is a dense model. it activates all 9 billion parameters for every single token. Gemma 4 26B is a Mixture of Experts (MoE) model. It routes data efficiently, activating only 4B parameters per token. You get the reasoning capabilities of a 26B model with the compute cost of a 4B model. 3. Thinking Efficiency When I ran the exact same complex prompt on both models, the larger MoE spent significantly fewer "thinking" tokens to arrive at the correct answer. A smarter model doesn't just give better answers; it gets to the point faster, saving you compute cycles and preserving your context window. # Want to run this yourself? Here are the exact llama.cpp CLI commands. For Qwen (MTP is baked into the main model): ./llama-cli -m Qwen3.5-9B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -p "Explain quantum computing." -n 2000 -c 8000 -ngl 99 -fa on --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 4 --spec-draft-p-min 0.7 For Gemma (Using a separate lightweight draft model): ./llama-cli -m gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf --model-draft mtp-gemma-4-26B-A4B-it.gguf -p "Explain quantum computing." -n 2000 -c 8000 -ngl 99 -fa on --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 4 --spec-draft-p-min 0.7 Stop waiting for a $3,000 rig. Boot up Colab, pull these models, and start building your stack. I’ve put together a completely free, cell by cell Google Colab notebook that automates this entire workflow so you can test it yourself in 5 minutes and learn. Link to the notebook is in the comments below. Experiemt with different MTP parameters, context windows and post your results in the comments.
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I told you to claim your free 16GB NVIDIA GPU for learning Local LLMs. Now I’m going to show you how to double its inference speed without touching the hardware. Google Colab gives you an enterprise grade NVIDIA Tesla T4 GPU for free, roughly 4 hours every single day. It is the absolute perfect sandbox for learning AI engineering, testing inference flags, and pushing massive context windows. The local AI timeline is moving way too fast. If you aren't using Multi Token Prediction (MTP) yet, you are leaving massive performance on the table. I just pushed DeepMind’s Gemma 4 26B to 64.9 t/s on this exact free tier. Let's look at the raw benchmark data running on an Ubuntu Linux environment with the latest compiled llama.cpp binaries and quantized GGUFs from Unsloth via HuggingFace: # Qwen 3.5 9B (Dense): Base: [ Prompt: 626.7 t/s | Generation: 21.0 t/s ] With MTP: [ Prompt: 539.1 t/s | Generation: 24.8 t/s ] # Gemma 4 26B QAT (MoE): Base: [ Prompt: 634.2 t/s | Generation: 48.3 t/s ] With MTP: [ Prompt: 572.1 t/s | Generation: 64.9 t/s ] If you are paying attention, this single Colab notebook reveals 3 massive observations about the current state of local LLMs: # 1. The MTP Speedup (Software Overclocking) Standard autoregressive decoding guesses one token at a time. MTP acts like a highly optimized, built in speculative decoder. It predicts multiple future tokens at once and the main model verifies them in parallel. The result? Zero accuracy loss and a massive throughput increase. Gemma jumped from 48 to 65 t/s just by flipping a flag. # 2. The MoE Paradox (Bigger is Faster) How does a 26B parameter model absolutely destroy a 9B model in raw speed on the exact same hardware? Architecture. Qwen 3.5 9B is a dense model. it activates all 9 billion parameters for every single token. Gemma 4 26B is a Mixture of Experts (MoE) model. It routes data efficiently, activating only 4B parameters per token. You get the reasoning capabilities of a 26B model with the compute cost of a 4B model. 3. Thinking Efficiency When I ran the exact same complex prompt on both models, the larger MoE spent significantly fewer "thinking" tokens to arrive at the correct answer. A smarter model doesn't just give better answers; it gets to the point faster, saving you compute cycles and preserving your context window. # Want to run this yourself? Here are the exact llama.cpp CLI commands. For Qwen (MTP is baked into the main model): ./llama-cli -m Qwen3.5-9B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -p "Explain quantum computing." -n 2000 -c 8000 -ngl 99 -fa on --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 4 --spec-draft-p-min 0.7 For Gemma (Using a separate lightweight draft model): ./llama-cli -m gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf --model-draft mtp-gemma-4-26B-A4B-it.gguf -p "Explain quantum computing." -n 2000 -c 8000 -ngl 99 -fa on --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 4 --spec-draft-p-min 0.7 Stop waiting for a $3,000 rig. Boot up Colab, pull these models, and start building your stack. I’ve put together a completely free, cell by cell Google Colab notebook that automates this entire workflow so you can test it yourself in 5 minutes and learn. Link to the notebook is in the comments below. Experiemt with different MTP parameters, context windows and post your results in the comments.

Alok

170,442 次观看 • 2 个月前

Run Gemma 4 26b MTP on 8 GB VRAM GPUs at 25+ tokens/second. Flags included! local llm space is moving at terminal velocity. only 3 days ago google released gemma 4 26b a4b qat quants. more efficient than before, ran on 8gb vram at 20 tok/sec. and now just a few hours ago, mainline llama.cpp merged a massive update and we just shattered our own record. decode throughput went 25-40% up on the same 8 GB VRAM setup! Before MTP: 20 tps -> After MTP: 28 tps! llama.cpp just officially merged PR #23398 ("add Gemma4 MTP"), bringing native Multi-Token Prediction (MTP) support to Gemma 4 models. By running speculative drafting on the same 8GB VRAM RTX 4060 setup, my decode throughput on a 64k context instantly leaped to a blistering 25–27 tokens/sec thats 25-30% increase with the same hardware. Here is the architectural catch you need to know: Unlike the Qwen 3.5 and 3.6 series, which bake the MTP heads directly into the base GGUF, the Gemma 4 MTP head is not built in. You must download a separate, specialized MTP drafter GGUF (the assistant model) to act as the speculator. (I've dropped the download link in the replies). copy and try the exact flags: -m gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 6 --spec-draft-p-min 0.7 --spec-draft-model gemma-4-26b-A4B-it-assistant-Q4_0.gguf -c 64000 -v n-max 4 and p-min 0.7 is also worth checking out. benchmark on your setup and workflow. if you have a single 8 gb vram nvidia rtx 4060, 3060, 3070, 2080, 2070, grab the MTP drafter GGUF link in the comments and try it yourself. Check it out even if you have asmaller or a larger gpu, such as a single rtx 3090, 4090, 3060, 2060. MTP works for all gemma 4 sizes such as gemma 4 12b, gemma 4 31b etc. but remember to grab the correct mtp draft assistant models respectively. what are you benchmarking today
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Run Gemma 4 26b MTP on 8 GB VRAM GPUs at 25+ tokens/second. Flags included! local llm space is moving at terminal velocity. only 3 days ago google released gemma 4 26b a4b qat quants. more efficient than before, ran on 8gb vram at 20 tok/sec. and now just a few hours ago, mainline llama.cpp merged a massive update and we just shattered our own record. decode throughput went 25-40% up on the same 8 GB VRAM setup! Before MTP: 20 tps -> After MTP: 28 tps! llama.cpp just officially merged PR #23398 ("add Gemma4 MTP"), bringing native Multi-Token Prediction (MTP) support to Gemma 4 models. By running speculative drafting on the same 8GB VRAM RTX 4060 setup, my decode throughput on a 64k context instantly leaped to a blistering 25–27 tokens/sec thats 25-30% increase with the same hardware. Here is the architectural catch you need to know: Unlike the Qwen 3.5 and 3.6 series, which bake the MTP heads directly into the base GGUF, the Gemma 4 MTP head is not built in. You must download a separate, specialized MTP drafter GGUF (the assistant model) to act as the speculator. (I've dropped the download link in the replies). copy and try the exact flags: -m gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 6 --spec-draft-p-min 0.7 --spec-draft-model gemma-4-26b-A4B-it-assistant-Q4_0.gguf -c 64000 -v n-max 4 and p-min 0.7 is also worth checking out. benchmark on your setup and workflow. if you have a single 8 gb vram nvidia rtx 4060, 3060, 3070, 2080, 2070, grab the MTP drafter GGUF link in the comments and try it yourself. Check it out even if you have asmaller or a larger gpu, such as a single rtx 3090, 4090, 3060, 2060. MTP works for all gemma 4 sizes such as gemma 4 12b, gemma 4 31b etc. but remember to grab the correct mtp draft assistant models respectively. what are you benchmarking today

Alok

200,913 次观看 • 3 个月前

We are in an insane run of open-weight drops. Every modality, open source is winning. This is what an open source AI summer ☀️ looks like: 🧠 LLMs & Reasoning → DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731 (my king 👑): 304B MoE refresh, Terminal-Bench 2.1 jumps 61.8→82.7 over the preview, DeepSWE 7.3→54.4. Closes in on Opus-4.8 on Agents' Last Exam (25.2 vs 25.7). MIT. → Muse-Glimmer-30B, from Meta (they are back!!): their first open agentic model. ~29.6B dense + perception encoder, 131k+ context, built to run fully local, no cloud. Apache 2.0. → Liquid AI LFM2.5-2.6B: 2.69B params, 131k context, 220 tok/s on an M5 Max in under 2.5GB RAM. Competitive with models 4x larger on agentic tasks. → inclusionAI Ling-3.0-flash: 124B total, only 5.1B active, ~12% the size of their old 1T flagship Ring-2.6, matches it on key benchmarks. MIT. → inclusionAI Ling-3.0-tiny: 7.9B total, 1.3B active, 86-90 tok/s on an M4 Pro MacBook at ~8GB peak memory. MIT. → NVIDIA Nemotron-3.5-Lightning-30B-A3B: hybrid Mamba-2+MoE+Attention, up to 1M context, runs on a single H100 or DGX Spark, SWE-bench Verified 52.8. → deepgrove maple-preview: 20B-A1B ternary-weight reasoner, 218 tok/s on a Mac mini M4, 5.3GB checkpoint. MIT. → BigBang-v1 (endless-frontier): fine-tuned from Qwen3.6-35B-A3B via a self-evolving generator/critic synthetic-data loop. Lands aggregate performance between DeepSeek V4 Flash (284B) and V4 Pro (1.6T), at 35B. Apache 2.0. 🎬 Video → MiniMax-H3: 33B dense omni model, native stereo audio, up to 2K/15s. 3.6k+ likes already. → Minimax-H3-Turbo (lightx2v): Apache-2.0 turbo distillation of H3 for fast inference. → Lightricks LTX-2.5: image-to-video update, custom Gemma-4-12B text encoder, a markedly stronger distilled model. 🔊 Voice → NVIDIA NemotronLabs VoiceChat-11B: full-duplex speech-to-speech, ~450ms turn-taking, #2 on open VoiceBench, and the first open full-duplex model with live tool-calling mid-conversation. 🛡️ Safety → Mistral Shieldstral-1.0-3B: 3B multimodal guardrail that takes your safety policy as plain text instead of fixed categories. Beats LlamaGuard-4-12B and ShieldGemma-9B on HarmBench (99.4) and ToxicChat (84.1) at a fraction of the size. Apache 2.0.
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We are in an insane run of open-weight drops. Every modality, open source is winning. This is what an open source AI summer ☀️ looks like: 🧠 LLMs & Reasoning → DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731 (my king 👑): 304B MoE refresh, Terminal-Bench 2.1 jumps 61.8→82.7 over the preview, DeepSWE 7.3→54.4. Closes in on Opus-4.8 on Agents' Last Exam (25.2 vs 25.7). MIT. → Muse-Glimmer-30B, from Meta (they are back!!): their first open agentic model. ~29.6B dense + perception encoder, 131k+ context, built to run fully local, no cloud. Apache 2.0. → Liquid AI LFM2.5-2.6B: 2.69B params, 131k context, 220 tok/s on an M5 Max in under 2.5GB RAM. Competitive with models 4x larger on agentic tasks. → inclusionAI Ling-3.0-flash: 124B total, only 5.1B active, ~12% the size of their old 1T flagship Ring-2.6, matches it on key benchmarks. MIT. → inclusionAI Ling-3.0-tiny: 7.9B total, 1.3B active, 86-90 tok/s on an M4 Pro MacBook at ~8GB peak memory. MIT. → NVIDIA Nemotron-3.5-Lightning-30B-A3B: hybrid Mamba-2+MoE+Attention, up to 1M context, runs on a single H100 or DGX Spark, SWE-bench Verified 52.8. → deepgrove maple-preview: 20B-A1B ternary-weight reasoner, 218 tok/s on a Mac mini M4, 5.3GB checkpoint. MIT. → BigBang-v1 (endless-frontier): fine-tuned from Qwen3.6-35B-A3B via a self-evolving generator/critic synthetic-data loop. Lands aggregate performance between DeepSeek V4 Flash (284B) and V4 Pro (1.6T), at 35B. Apache 2.0. 🎬 Video → MiniMax-H3: 33B dense omni model, native stereo audio, up to 2K/15s. 3.6k+ likes already. → Minimax-H3-Turbo (lightx2v): Apache-2.0 turbo distillation of H3 for fast inference. → Lightricks LTX-2.5: image-to-video update, custom Gemma-4-12B text encoder, a markedly stronger distilled model. 🔊 Voice → NVIDIA NemotronLabs VoiceChat-11B: full-duplex speech-to-speech, ~450ms turn-taking, #2 on open VoiceBench, and the first open full-duplex model with live tool-calling mid-conversation. 🛡️ Safety → Mistral Shieldstral-1.0-3B: 3B multimodal guardrail that takes your safety policy as plain text instead of fixed categories. Beats LlamaGuard-4-12B and ShieldGemma-9B on HarmBench (99.4) and ToxicChat (84.1) at a fraction of the size. Apache 2.0.

Victor M

55,281 次观看 • 1 个月前

This is the most hilarious thing I saw and did today Ran gemma-4-12B-coder-fable5-composer2.5-v1-GGUF locally with 8 GB VRAM at 20+ tok/sec Anthropic's Claude Fable 5 launched June 9. By June 12 it was banned. I can't access it. You can't either. But here's the twist: I'm running a model trained on its chain of thought at 20 tok/s on my RTX 4060 8GB. Locally. Offline. No cloud. No export control. Enter: Gemma4-12B-Coder GGUF (Q4_K_M) Base: Google's gemma-4-12B-it Fine-tuned on verifiable Python CoT data: - Primary: Composer 2.5 real reasoning traces (only passing solutions kept) - Auxiliary: Fable 5 used to redo the hard cases Composer missed. Every training example's reasoning led to code that actually ran. No hallucinated logic. Llama.cpp flags: -m gemma4-coding-Q4_K_M.gguf -cnv -ngl 44 -c 64000 -v (huggingface model link in comments) Flag breakdown: -ngl 44 → offload 44 layers to GPU (tune this for your VRAM) -c 64000 → 64K context window -cnv → conversation/chat mode -v → verbose output The irony writes itself. Anthropic spent weeks telling the world Fable 5 (mythos) is too powerful to release. Then released it. Then got banned from serving it, including their own researchers. Meanwhile: a Gemma 4 12B fine tune, trained on Fable 5's reasoning, runs fully offline on my mid range consumer GPU No API. No cloud. Just me and llama.cpp. This is why local AI matters. Check out the model's link in the comments. How's your experience been with this model?
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This is the most hilarious thing I saw and did today Ran gemma-4-12B-coder-fable5-composer2.5-v1-GGUF locally with 8 GB VRAM at 20+ tok/sec Anthropic's Claude Fable 5 launched June 9. By June 12 it was banned. I can't access it. You can't either. But here's the twist: I'm running a model trained on its chain of thought at 20 tok/s on my RTX 4060 8GB. Locally. Offline. No cloud. No export control. Enter: Gemma4-12B-Coder GGUF (Q4_K_M) Base: Google's gemma-4-12B-it Fine-tuned on verifiable Python CoT data: - Primary: Composer 2.5 real reasoning traces (only passing solutions kept) - Auxiliary: Fable 5 used to redo the hard cases Composer missed. Every training example's reasoning led to code that actually ran. No hallucinated logic. Llama.cpp flags: -m gemma4-coding-Q4_K_M.gguf -cnv -ngl 44 -c 64000 -v (huggingface model link in comments) Flag breakdown: -ngl 44 → offload 44 layers to GPU (tune this for your VRAM) -c 64000 → 64K context window -cnv → conversation/chat mode -v → verbose output The irony writes itself. Anthropic spent weeks telling the world Fable 5 (mythos) is too powerful to release. Then released it. Then got banned from serving it, including their own researchers. Meanwhile: a Gemma 4 12B fine tune, trained on Fable 5's reasoning, runs fully offline on my mid range consumer GPU No API. No cloud. Just me and llama.cpp. This is why local AI matters. Check out the model's link in the comments. How's your experience been with this model?

Alok

575,300 次观看 • 3 个月前

here's how the whole thing works. claude code doesn't care what's behind the API. it just sends requests and expects responses. so i pointed it at my own machine instead of anthropic's servers. llama-server runs the model locally. LiteLLM sits in between and translates the API format. claude code thinks it's talking to claude. it's talking to qwen on localhost. the setup: 2x 3090s, 38 layers on GPU, 10 on CPU. 128K context window. generation is only 7 tok/s but the tradeoff is worth it. 128K means the agent can hold an entire project in memory without losing context midtask. claude code alone loads a 17.5K token system prompt on every request. tool definitions, safety rules, agent behavior. that's your baseline before you even say hello. pushed as far as i could tonight. what surprised me most wasn't the speed. it was the iteration quality. first prompt gave me a working particle sim. second prompt, the model read its own 564 lines, understood the architecture, and added trails, explosions, gravity wells, bloom effects. no handholding. 4bit quantized. 45GB on two consumer cards. running a full coding agent autonomously. detailed article coming. full benchmarks, hardware breakdowns, engine debugging, code quality. everything from setup to what broke and why.
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here's how the whole thing works. claude code doesn't care what's behind the API. it just sends requests and expects responses. so i pointed it at my own machine instead of anthropic's servers. llama-server runs the model locally. LiteLLM sits in between and translates the API format. claude code thinks it's talking to claude. it's talking to qwen on localhost. the setup: 2x 3090s, 38 layers on GPU, 10 on CPU. 128K context window. generation is only 7 tok/s but the tradeoff is worth it. 128K means the agent can hold an entire project in memory without losing context midtask. claude code alone loads a 17.5K token system prompt on every request. tool definitions, safety rules, agent behavior. that's your baseline before you even say hello. pushed as far as i could tonight. what surprised me most wasn't the speed. it was the iteration quality. first prompt gave me a working particle sim. second prompt, the model read its own 564 lines, understood the architecture, and added trails, explosions, gravity wells, bloom effects. no handholding. 4bit quantized. 45GB on two consumer cards. running a full coding agent autonomously. detailed article coming. full benchmarks, hardware breakdowns, engine debugging, code quality. everything from setup to what broke and why.

Sudo su

37,623 次观看 • 6 个月前

the 24gb vram tier is enough for most builder work in 2026. gemma 4 31b dense on my rog scar 18 just autonomously built a production hero section in one prompt, one html file and 5 minutes end to end. hardware: rog scar 18, rtx 5090 laptop 24gb vram. model: google gemma 4 31b dense at q4_k_m quant, using 22.8 of 24gb. engine: llama.cpp built for blackwell (sm_120). harness: hermes agent with native tool parsing. speed: 15 tok/s sustained, 94 watts, 50c. flags i used: ./build/bin/llama-server -m ~/models/gemma4-31b/google_gemma-4-31B-it-Q4_K_M.gguf -ngl 99 -c 131072 -np 1 -fa on --cache-type-k q4_0 --cache-type-v q4_0 --jinja --host 127.0.0.1 --port 8080 if you own 24gb vram in 2026, you have enough for most ui work, most agentic coding, most autonomous builds. no subscription, no one logging your prompts. a dense open model on consumer hardware shipping real software on your desk. this was the warmup. full page next on same hardware, then the octopus invaders final multifile autonomous challenge.
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the 24gb vram tier is enough for most builder work in 2026. gemma 4 31b dense on my rog scar 18 just autonomously built a production hero section in one prompt, one html file and 5 minutes end to end. hardware: rog scar 18, rtx 5090 laptop 24gb vram. model: google gemma 4 31b dense at q4_k_m quant, using 22.8 of 24gb. engine: llama.cpp built for blackwell (sm_120). harness: hermes agent with native tool parsing. speed: 15 tok/s sustained, 94 watts, 50c. flags i used: ./build/bin/llama-server -m ~/models/gemma4-31b/google_gemma-4-31B-it-Q4_K_M.gguf -ngl 99 -c 131072 -np 1 -fa on --cache-type-k q4_0 --cache-type-v q4_0 --jinja --host 127.0.0.1 --port 8080 if you own 24gb vram in 2026, you have enough for most ui work, most agentic coding, most autonomous builds. no subscription, no one logging your prompts. a dense open model on consumer hardware shipping real software on your desk. this was the warmup. full page next on same hardware, then the octopus invaders final multifile autonomous challenge.

Sudo su

19,576 次观看 • 4 个月前

THE TESLA MODEL S: THE CAR THAT MADE ELECTRIC VEHICLES SERIOUS When the Model S launched in 2012, the entire world still saw EVs as slow, boring, short-range toys for tree-huggers. The Model S changed that narrative overnight. It wasn’t just an electric car — it was a statement. Here’s why the Model S was so important for EV adoption: • It proved EVs could be faster and better than gas cars 0–60 mph in under 4 seconds (later Plaid versions under 2 seconds) while being completely silent and smooth. It beat most supercars off the line and made “electric” synonymous with performance. • It delivered real long-range capability Over 300 miles of range when most EVs at the time struggled to reach 100 miles. Suddenly, road trips became possible and “range anxiety” started to feel outdated. • It introduced over-the-air updates The first production car that could get major performance upgrades, new features, and safety improvements wirelessly — like a smartphone on wheels. This changed how people think about car ownership forever. • It forced the entire auto industry to respond Legacy manufacturers who had been dragging their feet on EVs suddenly rushed to catch up. The Model S basically lit the fuse for the modern EV revolution. • It made luxury electric desirable Premium interior, massive touchscreen, ridiculous acceleration, and futuristic design turned EVs from “compromise” into “aspiration.” Without the Model S proving that electric cars could outperform and out-luxury gasoline vehicles, we wouldn’t have the Model 3/Y explosion, the Cybertruck, or the flood of competitors now racing to go electric. The Model S didn’t just sell cars. It changed the future of transportation. It took EVs from niche to mainstream and showed the world what was possible.
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THE TESLA MODEL S: THE CAR THAT MADE ELECTRIC VEHICLES SERIOUS When the Model S launched in 2012, the entire world still saw EVs as slow, boring, short-range toys for tree-huggers. The Model S changed that narrative overnight. It wasn’t just an electric car — it was a statement. Here’s why the Model S was so important for EV adoption: • It proved EVs could be faster and better than gas cars 0–60 mph in under 4 seconds (later Plaid versions under 2 seconds) while being completely silent and smooth. It beat most supercars off the line and made “electric” synonymous with performance. • It delivered real long-range capability Over 300 miles of range when most EVs at the time struggled to reach 100 miles. Suddenly, road trips became possible and “range anxiety” started to feel outdated. • It introduced over-the-air updates The first production car that could get major performance upgrades, new features, and safety improvements wirelessly — like a smartphone on wheels. This changed how people think about car ownership forever. • It forced the entire auto industry to respond Legacy manufacturers who had been dragging their feet on EVs suddenly rushed to catch up. The Model S basically lit the fuse for the modern EV revolution. • It made luxury electric desirable Premium interior, massive touchscreen, ridiculous acceleration, and futuristic design turned EVs from “compromise” into “aspiration.” Without the Model S proving that electric cars could outperform and out-luxury gasoline vehicles, we wouldn’t have the Model 3/Y explosion, the Cybertruck, or the flood of competitors now racing to go electric. The Model S didn’t just sell cars. It changed the future of transportation. It took EVs from niche to mainstream and showed the world what was possible.

Tesla Owners Silicon Valley

11,056 次观看 • 5 个月前

Qwen 3.8 27B (dense) running on a single RTX 4090 (24GB VRAM) at 65 tokens/sec decode with MTP! 260,000 context window or 65 tokens/sec decode with native MTP. The API cartel should be terrified. We are officially running frontier tier agentic AI (benchmarks comparable to claude opus 4.6 max) on a single consumer gaming GPU. I benchmarked Qwen3.8-27B on a single NVIDIA RTX 4090 (24GB VRAM, Ubuntu 22) using Unsloth’s Dynamic Q4_K_XL GGUF on the latest llama.cpp. Here is the complete benchmark breakdown across both Context Scaling and MTP Overdrive (28k prompt baseline): ### PART 1: The Context Scaling Matrix (Pure Throughput) # 1. Standard FP16 KV Cache (Unquantized): - 80k Context: 2,664.7 t/s prefill | 40.68 t/s decode | 22.36 GB VRAM - 100k Context: 2,678.7 t/s prefill | 40.89 t/s decode | 23.59 GB VRAM (100k is the hard ceiling for unquantized f16 KV in 24GB VRAM) # 2. Q8 Quantized KV Cache (-ctv q8_0 -ctk q8_0): - 130k Context: 2,639.1 t/s prefill | 40.96 t/s decode | 22.18 GB VRAM - 170k Context: 2,653.9 t/s prefill | 40.70 t/s decode | 23.68 GB VRAM (170k is the sweet spot for heavy agentic coding workflows) # 3. Q4 Quantized KV Cache (-ctv q4_0 -ctk q4_0): - 260k Context: 2,659.8 t/s prefill | 40.70 t/s decode | 23.00 GB VRAM Full 262k native context residing entirely in 24GB VRAM. Zero system RAM offload. Stress test with a monster 142k real-world prompt (-c 170000, Q8 KV): - Prefill: 1,829.50 tokens/s - Decode: 31.3 tokens/s - VRAM: 23.7 GB rock solid ### PART 2: Native MTP Overdrive (Trading Context for Speed) Since MTP heads are baked into the architecture, enabling native speculative drafting pushes decode speeds straight to 60 t/s with zero external draft model: # 1. MTP + Q8 KV Cache: - 80k Context: 2,370.66 t/s prefill | 59.25 t/s decode | 23.4 GB VRAM (MTP state buffers eat slightly more memory, making 80k the ceiling for Q8) # 2. MTP + Q4 KV Cache: - 130k Context: 2,391.09 t/s prefill | 60.10 t/s decode | 23.5 GB VRAM (Sweet spot: 130,000 context running at a screaming 60 tps decode) ### Qwen3.8-27B vs Muse Glimmer 30B Two days ago I benched Meta's Muse Glimmer 30B hitting 130k context unquantized (19.3 GB VRAM) pulling 50-75 t/s decode. If you own a single RTX 3090 or RTX 4090, you have zero excuse to burn API credits. ### The Reproduction llama.cpp flags: 1. Max Context Stack (260,000 Context @ 41 tps): ./build/bin/llama-server -m Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 260000 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -ctv q4_0 -ctk q4_0 2. MTP Overdrive Stack (130,000 Context @ 60 tps): ./build/bin/llama-server -m Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 130000 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -ctv q4_0 -ctk q4_0 --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 4 --spec-draft-p-min 0.7 Unsloth's Hugging Face GGUF links, intelligence/agentic benchmark details, and performance charts are posted in the replies. Local compute is eating the cloud alive. How much monthly API spend does a 24GB setup like this actually replace for you?
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Qwen 3.8 27B (dense) running on a single RTX 4090 (24GB VRAM) at 65 tokens/sec decode with MTP! 260,000 context window or 65 tokens/sec decode with native MTP. The API cartel should be terrified. We are officially running frontier tier agentic AI (benchmarks comparable to claude opus 4.6 max) on a single consumer gaming GPU. I benchmarked Qwen3.8-27B on a single NVIDIA RTX 4090 (24GB VRAM, Ubuntu 22) using Unsloth’s Dynamic Q4_K_XL GGUF on the latest llama.cpp. Here is the complete benchmark breakdown across both Context Scaling and MTP Overdrive (28k prompt baseline): ### PART 1: The Context Scaling Matrix (Pure Throughput) # 1. Standard FP16 KV Cache (Unquantized): - 80k Context: 2,664.7 t/s prefill | 40.68 t/s decode | 22.36 GB VRAM - 100k Context: 2,678.7 t/s prefill | 40.89 t/s decode | 23.59 GB VRAM (100k is the hard ceiling for unquantized f16 KV in 24GB VRAM) # 2. Q8 Quantized KV Cache (-ctv q8_0 -ctk q8_0): - 130k Context: 2,639.1 t/s prefill | 40.96 t/s decode | 22.18 GB VRAM - 170k Context: 2,653.9 t/s prefill | 40.70 t/s decode | 23.68 GB VRAM (170k is the sweet spot for heavy agentic coding workflows) # 3. Q4 Quantized KV Cache (-ctv q4_0 -ctk q4_0): - 260k Context: 2,659.8 t/s prefill | 40.70 t/s decode | 23.00 GB VRAM Full 262k native context residing entirely in 24GB VRAM. Zero system RAM offload. Stress test with a monster 142k real-world prompt (-c 170000, Q8 KV): - Prefill: 1,829.50 tokens/s - Decode: 31.3 tokens/s - VRAM: 23.7 GB rock solid ### PART 2: Native MTP Overdrive (Trading Context for Speed) Since MTP heads are baked into the architecture, enabling native speculative drafting pushes decode speeds straight to 60 t/s with zero external draft model: # 1. MTP + Q8 KV Cache: - 80k Context: 2,370.66 t/s prefill | 59.25 t/s decode | 23.4 GB VRAM (MTP state buffers eat slightly more memory, making 80k the ceiling for Q8) # 2. MTP + Q4 KV Cache: - 130k Context: 2,391.09 t/s prefill | 60.10 t/s decode | 23.5 GB VRAM (Sweet spot: 130,000 context running at a screaming 60 tps decode) ### Qwen3.8-27B vs Muse Glimmer 30B Two days ago I benched Meta's Muse Glimmer 30B hitting 130k context unquantized (19.3 GB VRAM) pulling 50-75 t/s decode. If you own a single RTX 3090 or RTX 4090, you have zero excuse to burn API credits. ### The Reproduction llama.cpp flags: 1. Max Context Stack (260,000 Context @ 41 tps): ./build/bin/llama-server -m Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 260000 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -ctv q4_0 -ctk q4_0 2. MTP Overdrive Stack (130,000 Context @ 60 tps): ./build/bin/llama-server -m Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 130000 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -ctv q4_0 -ctk q4_0 --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 4 --spec-draft-p-min 0.7 Unsloth's Hugging Face GGUF links, intelligence/agentic benchmark details, and performance charts are posted in the replies. Local compute is eating the cloud alive. How much monthly API spend does a 24GB setup like this actually replace for you?

Alok

377,759 次观看 • 1 个月前

I just ran Gemma 4 31B on @CerebrasSystems at 1,800+ tokens/sec and it's multimodal. For context: that's 35x faster than a typical GPU endpoint, and the first token (reasoning included) lands in 1.5 seconds. This isn't a benchmark slide, I recorded the inference live. Prompt I used: "Create a simulation of an iPhone. Include at least one working dummy note taking app, a functional notification pulldown, high quality graphics, single HTML file, any libs via CDN." - Generation time: 3 seconds. - Notes app worked. - Notification panel worked. - Rendered first try. This is what wafer-scale inference unlocks, not just "faster," but a different category of product. When generation is this fast, you stop waiting and start iterating in real time. Why this matters: Gemma 4 31B is Google DeepMind's flagship open weight model, Apache 2.0 licensed, dense (not MoE), and built for efficiency over raw parameter count. It scores close to Claude Haiku 4.5 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index (30 vs 29) but runs ~18x faster on Cerebras. It's also the first multimodal model on Cerebras's platform, meaning you can now feed it screenshots, documents, charts, and UI states at wafer scale speed. # Applications I'm most excited about: - Screenshot → Insight: Drop in a dashboard or document screenshot, get structured findings back instantly. no waiting, no batching. - Live UI generation: Full interactive interfaces (like my iPhone sim) generated and rendered in under 2 seconds. - Screenshot -> Patch: Feed it a broken UI + console error, get a minimal code fix and verification steps back. - Computer use & agentic loops: See -> reason -> act - verify, fast enough to keep a human in the loop instead of waiting on the model. - Long context summarization: Full research reports condensed into decision ready summaries you can read and requery in one sitting. The bigger unlock isn't the speed number itself, it's that agentic and multimodal loops (see -> reason -> output -> tool call -> verify -> retry) finally run in real time instead of feeling sluggish. As Logan Kilpatrick (Logan Kilpatrick) put it: "If every model was doing 2,000 tokens per second, you wouldn't build the same product and just have it be faster, you'd build different products." Gemma 4 31B is live now on Cerebras Inference Cloud in public preview. If you're building multimodal, agentic, or real time apps, this is worth testing today. What would you build with such insane inference throughput?
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I just ran Gemma 4 31B on @CerebrasSystems at 1,800+ tokens/sec and it's multimodal. For context: that's 35x faster than a typical GPU endpoint, and the first token (reasoning included) lands in 1.5 seconds. This isn't a benchmark slide, I recorded the inference live. Prompt I used: "Create a simulation of an iPhone. Include at least one working dummy note taking app, a functional notification pulldown, high quality graphics, single HTML file, any libs via CDN." - Generation time: 3 seconds. - Notes app worked. - Notification panel worked. - Rendered first try. This is what wafer-scale inference unlocks, not just "faster," but a different category of product. When generation is this fast, you stop waiting and start iterating in real time. Why this matters: Gemma 4 31B is Google DeepMind's flagship open weight model, Apache 2.0 licensed, dense (not MoE), and built for efficiency over raw parameter count. It scores close to Claude Haiku 4.5 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index (30 vs 29) but runs ~18x faster on Cerebras. It's also the first multimodal model on Cerebras's platform, meaning you can now feed it screenshots, documents, charts, and UI states at wafer scale speed. # Applications I'm most excited about: - Screenshot → Insight: Drop in a dashboard or document screenshot, get structured findings back instantly. no waiting, no batching. - Live UI generation: Full interactive interfaces (like my iPhone sim) generated and rendered in under 2 seconds. - Screenshot -> Patch: Feed it a broken UI + console error, get a minimal code fix and verification steps back. - Computer use & agentic loops: See -> reason -> act - verify, fast enough to keep a human in the loop instead of waiting on the model. - Long context summarization: Full research reports condensed into decision ready summaries you can read and requery in one sitting. The bigger unlock isn't the speed number itself, it's that agentic and multimodal loops (see -> reason -> output -> tool call -> verify -> retry) finally run in real time instead of feeling sluggish. As Logan Kilpatrick (Logan Kilpatrick) put it: "If every model was doing 2,000 tokens per second, you wouldn't build the same product and just have it be faster, you'd build different products." Gemma 4 31B is live now on Cerebras Inference Cloud in public preview. If you're building multimodal, agentic, or real time apps, this is worth testing today. What would you build with such insane inference throughput?

Alok

12,962 次观看 • 2 个月前

🚀 Optimus is gearing up for MASS PRODUCTION — and it’s about to change everything. Tesla is preparing its first large-scale Optimus factory in Fremont (replacing Model S/X lines) targeting 1 million robots per year, with a second-gen line in Austin aiming for 10 million annual capacity! Gen 3 is already walking, refining its moves, and the AI brains (powered by the same tech as FSD/Robotaxi) are accelerating fast. This isn’t just a robot — it’s Tesla’s next leap toward solving labor shortages, boosting productivity, and accelerating our sustainable energy + autonomy future. Imagine helpful Optimus bots in homes, factories, and beyond, freeing humans for higher pursuits while advancing the mission. The robotics revolution is closer than ever. 🤖✨ What excites you most about Optimus — household helper, factory teammate, or something bigger? Drop your vision below! 👇 Like if you’re bullish on Tesla’s multi-product future | Repost to spread the hype | Follow for daily Tesla energy 🔥 #Tesla #Optimus #RobotRevolution #FSD #SustainableFuture #Cybertruck
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🚀 Optimus is gearing up for MASS PRODUCTION — and it’s about to change everything. Tesla is preparing its first large-scale Optimus factory in Fremont (replacing Model S/X lines) targeting 1 million robots per year, with a second-gen line in Austin aiming for 10 million annual capacity! Gen 3 is already walking, refining its moves, and the AI brains (powered by the same tech as FSD/Robotaxi) are accelerating fast. This isn’t just a robot — it’s Tesla’s next leap toward solving labor shortages, boosting productivity, and accelerating our sustainable energy + autonomy future. Imagine helpful Optimus bots in homes, factories, and beyond, freeing humans for higher pursuits while advancing the mission. The robotics revolution is closer than ever. 🤖✨ What excites you most about Optimus — household helper, factory teammate, or something bigger? Drop your vision below! 👇 Like if you’re bullish on Tesla’s multi-product future | Repost to spread the hype | Follow for daily Tesla energy 🔥 #Tesla #Optimus #RobotRevolution #FSD #SustainableFuture #Cybertruck

Kendall

15,521 次观看 • 3 个月前

As promised, instead of for $15,000 GPUs, we max optimized a model that can fit comfortably in any GPU with 8GB VRAM running Windows 200 tok/s, *128k context, text/image/audio. Anyone who wants to join the local AI community with 5 year old laptop can run this with recipe below, and this test was done on 3070ti laptop I forgot I had. We pulled every instruct model released since May that fits 8 or 12 GB, and ran the six that mattered through the same 20 tasks: JSON extraction, code, a table, arithmetic, a fake-treaty honesty check, tool calls, language, a persona, a fact planted deep in a long prompt, and three photos. Gemma 4 E4B, Gemma 4 12B, Qwen3.5-9B, Qwen3.5-4B, Ornith-1.5-9B, the Qwen3.8-9B distill. E4B is not the top scorer. Qwen3.5-9B and Ornith beat it on long context and on reading fine print in a photo. It won the pick for the things a newcomer on an old card actually needs: Apache 2.0, text + image + audio in, 3 GB of headroom on an 8 GB card, Weights Google trained to be 4-bit (QAT), and Google's own speculative drafter shipped next to them. Nothing else in the tier has all five, and the drafter alone is worth 2–3×.
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As promised, instead of for $15,000 GPUs, we max optimized a model that can fit comfortably in any GPU with 8GB VRAM running Windows 200 tok/s, *128k context, text/image/audio. Anyone who wants to join the local AI community with 5 year old laptop can run this with recipe below, and this test was done on 3070ti laptop I forgot I had. We pulled every instruct model released since May that fits 8 or 12 GB, and ran the six that mattered through the same 20 tasks: JSON extraction, code, a table, arithmetic, a fake-treaty honesty check, tool calls, language, a persona, a fact planted deep in a long prompt, and three photos. Gemma 4 E4B, Gemma 4 12B, Qwen3.5-9B, Qwen3.5-4B, Ornith-1.5-9B, the Qwen3.8-9B distill. E4B is not the top scorer. Qwen3.5-9B and Ornith beat it on long context and on reading fine print in a photo. It won the pick for the things a newcomer on an old card actually needs: Apache 2.0, text + image + audio in, 3 GB of headroom on an 8 GB card, Weights Google trained to be 4-bit (QAT), and Google's own speculative drafter shipped next to them. Nothing else in the tier has all five, and the drafter alone is worth 2–3×.

Killy

126,200 次观看 • 8 天前

hey if you have a 3060, or any GPU with 8GB or more sitting in a drawer right now, that thing can run 9 billion parameters of intelligence autonomously. and you don't know it yet. 2 hours ago i posted that 9B hit a ceiling. 2,699 lines across 11 files. blank screen. said the limit for autonomous multifile coding on 9 billion parameters is real. then i audited every file. found 11 bugs. exact file, exact line, exact fix. duplicate variable declarations killing the script loader. a canvas reference never connected to the DOM. enemies with no movement logic. particle systems called on the class instead of the instance. fed that list as a single prompt to the same Qwen 3.5 9B on the same RTX 3060 through Hermes Agent. it fixed all 11. surgically. patch level edits across 4 files. no rewrites. no hallucinated changes. game boots. enemies spawn, move, collide. background renders. particles fire. and here's what nobody is talking about. this is a 9 billion parameter model running a full agentic framework. Hermes Agent with 31 tools. file operations, terminal, browser, code execution. not a single tool call failed. the agent chain never broke. most people think you need 70B+ for reliable tool use. this is 9B on 12 gigs doing it clean. the model didn't fail. my prompting strategy did. the ceiling is not the parameter count. the ceiling is how you prompt it. this is not done. bullets don't fire yet. boss fights need wiring. but the screen that was black 2 hours ago now has a full game rendering in real time. iterating right now. anyone with a GPU from the last 5 years should be paying attention to what is happening right now.
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hey if you have a 3060, or any GPU with 8GB or more sitting in a drawer right now, that thing can run 9 billion parameters of intelligence autonomously. and you don't know it yet. 2 hours ago i posted that 9B hit a ceiling. 2,699 lines across 11 files. blank screen. said the limit for autonomous multifile coding on 9 billion parameters is real. then i audited every file. found 11 bugs. exact file, exact line, exact fix. duplicate variable declarations killing the script loader. a canvas reference never connected to the DOM. enemies with no movement logic. particle systems called on the class instead of the instance. fed that list as a single prompt to the same Qwen 3.5 9B on the same RTX 3060 through Hermes Agent. it fixed all 11. surgically. patch level edits across 4 files. no rewrites. no hallucinated changes. game boots. enemies spawn, move, collide. background renders. particles fire. and here's what nobody is talking about. this is a 9 billion parameter model running a full agentic framework. Hermes Agent with 31 tools. file operations, terminal, browser, code execution. not a single tool call failed. the agent chain never broke. most people think you need 70B+ for reliable tool use. this is 9B on 12 gigs doing it clean. the model didn't fail. my prompting strategy did. the ceiling is not the parameter count. the ceiling is how you prompt it. this is not done. bullets don't fire yet. boss fights need wiring. but the screen that was black 2 hours ago now has a full game rendering in real time. iterating right now. anyone with a GPU from the last 5 years should be paying attention to what is happening right now.

Sudo su

684,336 次观看 • 6 个月前

my 8 GB VRAM gaming laptop is absolutely going to hate me for this. but I still did it. ran a 31b dense model (Gemma 4 31b Q4) with only 8 GB VRAM last week I ran Gemma 4 26B A4B a mixture of experts model on my RTX 4060 and hit 25–28 tokens/sec using llama.cpp's new MTP support. smooth. snappy. but MoE has a secret: it only activates 4B parameters per token despite having 26B total. that's why it flies. so the real question started haunting me. what if I throw a full, no tricks, every parameter fires on every token, 31B DENSE model at the same machine? # Hardware: GPU: NVIDIA RTX 4060, 8 GB VRAM RAM: 16 GB CPU: Intel Core i7 H Laptop. Gaming. Modest. The model: gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf (model's unsloth huggingface link in the comments) This is Google DeepMind's flagship dense model in the Gemma 4 family that can run on single consumer GPU. It packs a hybrid attention architecture, supports up to 256K context natively, and is QAT (Quantization Aware Training) optimized, meaning it retains far more quality than standard post training quants at the same bit depth. This is NOT the MoE. This is 31 BILLION dense parameters, every single one of them loaded. # the flags I used: -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -cnv --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-model mtp-gemma-4-31B-it.gguf --spec-draft-n-max 8 --spec-draft-p-min 0.6 -c 6000 -v Multi Token Prediction (MTP) is still active here. Separate draft GGUF required, same as the 26B setup. # Results: → Decode: ~3 tokens/sec → Prefill: ~2 tokens/sec → Context: 6000 tokens → Hardware crying quietly in the corner: yes so is 3 tps actually usable? For real time back and forth chat? Not ideal. You're not having a fluid conversation at 3 tps. but slow ≠ useless. And this is where it gets genuinely interesting. think about how senior devs actually work in a real team. But when something is architectural, deeply complex, or needs serious reasoning? they walk down the hall and escalate to the senior. That's exactly the local AI agent architecture this unlocks: → Fast orchestrator model (Gemma 4 26B MoE at 25+ tps) handles routing, simple queries, tool calls, memory. The junior dev. → Gemma 4 31B dense is the senior, called only when the fast model genuinely hits a wall. Hard multi step reasoning. Complex code generation. Deep architectural decisions. The agentic loop stays fast. Only the hard hops touch the 31B. That's a legitimate production grade local AI architecture on a budget hardware. (requires 2 8gb gpus) other workflows where 3 tps is completely fine: - overnight batch jobs. summarize documents, extract structured data, review code. Fire it off. Sleep. wake up to results. - One shot deep reasoning - Silent code audit loops, you write and test, the 31B reviews diffs and flags issues in the background between your sprints - Any workflow where output quality > output speed A few weeks ago, nobody was running a 30B+ dense model on a single consumer GPU with 8 GB VRAM. At all. Now we're doing it on an Intel i7-H gaming laptop with a NVIDIA RTX 4060, thanks to llama.cpp + QAT quants + MTP speculative drafting. Google DeepMind said the Gemma 4 31B targets "consumer GPUs and workstations." They were not exaggerating. The hardware bar to run serious frontier class models locally keeps dropping. the tools are here. the models are here. you just have to be willing to abuse your laptop a little. what workflows would you actually run on a local 3 tps 31B dense model? genuinely curious. drop it below.
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my 8 GB VRAM gaming laptop is absolutely going to hate me for this. but I still did it. ran a 31b dense model (Gemma 4 31b Q4) with only 8 GB VRAM last week I ran Gemma 4 26B A4B a mixture of experts model on my RTX 4060 and hit 25–28 tokens/sec using llama.cpp's new MTP support. smooth. snappy. but MoE has a secret: it only activates 4B parameters per token despite having 26B total. that's why it flies. so the real question started haunting me. what if I throw a full, no tricks, every parameter fires on every token, 31B DENSE model at the same machine? # Hardware: GPU: NVIDIA RTX 4060, 8 GB VRAM RAM: 16 GB CPU: Intel Core i7 H Laptop. Gaming. Modest. The model: gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf (model's unsloth huggingface link in the comments) This is Google DeepMind's flagship dense model in the Gemma 4 family that can run on single consumer GPU. It packs a hybrid attention architecture, supports up to 256K context natively, and is QAT (Quantization Aware Training) optimized, meaning it retains far more quality than standard post training quants at the same bit depth. This is NOT the MoE. This is 31 BILLION dense parameters, every single one of them loaded. # the flags I used: -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -cnv --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-model mtp-gemma-4-31B-it.gguf --spec-draft-n-max 8 --spec-draft-p-min 0.6 -c 6000 -v Multi Token Prediction (MTP) is still active here. Separate draft GGUF required, same as the 26B setup. # Results: → Decode: ~3 tokens/sec → Prefill: ~2 tokens/sec → Context: 6000 tokens → Hardware crying quietly in the corner: yes so is 3 tps actually usable? For real time back and forth chat? Not ideal. You're not having a fluid conversation at 3 tps. but slow ≠ useless. And this is where it gets genuinely interesting. think about how senior devs actually work in a real team. But when something is architectural, deeply complex, or needs serious reasoning? they walk down the hall and escalate to the senior. That's exactly the local AI agent architecture this unlocks: → Fast orchestrator model (Gemma 4 26B MoE at 25+ tps) handles routing, simple queries, tool calls, memory. The junior dev. → Gemma 4 31B dense is the senior, called only when the fast model genuinely hits a wall. Hard multi step reasoning. Complex code generation. Deep architectural decisions. The agentic loop stays fast. Only the hard hops touch the 31B. That's a legitimate production grade local AI architecture on a budget hardware. (requires 2 8gb gpus) other workflows where 3 tps is completely fine: - overnight batch jobs. summarize documents, extract structured data, review code. Fire it off. Sleep. wake up to results. - One shot deep reasoning - Silent code audit loops, you write and test, the 31B reviews diffs and flags issues in the background between your sprints - Any workflow where output quality > output speed A few weeks ago, nobody was running a 30B+ dense model on a single consumer GPU with 8 GB VRAM. At all. Now we're doing it on an Intel i7-H gaming laptop with a NVIDIA RTX 4060, thanks to llama.cpp + QAT quants + MTP speculative drafting. Google DeepMind said the Gemma 4 31B targets "consumer GPUs and workstations." They were not exaggerating. The hardware bar to run serious frontier class models locally keeps dropping. the tools are here. the models are here. you just have to be willing to abuse your laptop a little. what workflows would you actually run on a local 3 tps 31B dense model? genuinely curious. drop it below.

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