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Look at what Vatican II did [in 1931].

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Pope Respecter1 个月前

When Pope Pius XII declared Our Lady of Guadalupe the "Empress of the Americas" Throughout this entire pre-Vatican II period, the Dance of the Concheros were standard, officially accepted elements of the pilgrimages to Our Lady.

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Pope Respecter1 个月前

This traditional dance has been a standard part of the devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe since the 16th century. Modern "trads" see something they do not like and think "Vatican II!!" when in reality inculturation is as old as the faith itself.

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Pope Respecter1 个月前

For the record, whether what you see in the opening post is good or not is a different question as to whether it was caused by Vatican II. It appears there were critical voices regarding it going back to the beginning. My point here was less that it is good and more that people should stop blaming Vatican II for everything they do not like.

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Caesar1 个月前

They make it really clear when their supposed zeal for the faith is merely zeal for Roman culture

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Trad Age Convert1 个月前

You have enough traditional sensus fidelium to understand the difference between dancing outside and in front of an altar. But you pretend not to.

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Wach de Sto. Domingo 🇩🇴🇻🇦♱1 个月前

No sé parece a lo del otro video. Una parece ser efectivamente una costumbre tradicional mejicana y la otra un invento de nuevo cuño que pretende ser tradicional. No llevan ni la misma ropa. Tiene pinta de tradición fabricada.

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G1 个月前

This doesn’t look like an actual mass, my guy

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José Luis Bustillos Ortiz1 个月前

Not inside the Temple though.

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AI-conoclast1 个月前

why would pachamama bergoglio do this?!?!!

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Gaius Americanus 🇻🇦1 个月前

Time for this to spread to the "genius" pretentious "trads."

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BR Jacobs1 个月前

@Talonthepapist Erm, peoples aren’t allowed to have cultures beyond explicitly Roman Catholic optics

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Pearly whites1 个月前

This is a procession OUTSIDE the church and NOT in front of the altar.

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Tomasz1 个月前

Is it during mass and inside the church?

Ludovicus D. 的头像
Ludovicus D.1 个月前

lol 😂

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Thomas Blake1 个月前

This js still clearly sinful even if has nothing to do with V2

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Tiffany Hanson1 个月前

As far back as the 30’s you say? You mean the era in which communists from Russia spread out across Europe & the Americas to subvert Catholicism & national identities.

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R. JLF1 个月前

Deixa de ser mentiroso, isso nunca ocorreu dentro de uma missa, não com o aval do Vaticano como agora é "doutrina" expressa desse maldito falso concílio

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Krles 🇻🇦☧ 🇨🇿1 个月前

notice how it isn't in front of altar

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Martino1 个月前

@BruceSaiFun

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Raoul Duke1 个月前

They’re doing their pagan BS outside. The one people don’t like is inside a church.

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Kropkov1 个月前

Is this in a church during mass?

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