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Loops vs. Graphs, clearly explained! loops are great, but they have a ceiling: a loop makes one unit of work better. it cannot decide which units exist. so you end up with a very good agent running the wrong three steps, in the wrong order, one at a time.... Graph engineering fixes this by moving the decision up a layer: what runs, what runs at the same time, and what never runs at all. you need both. here's how it works: a graph splits your system into two kinds of decision. ↳ inside a unit: the loop. produce, check, correct, repeat until green ↳ between units: the graph. split, fan out, merge, gate, send back Prompts → Context → Harness → Loops → Graphs you get parallel work, isolated contexts, and steps that stop running when nothing needs them. the trick is being selective about what becomes a node. only spend a model where judgment lives. merging, ranking, deduping and schema checks are edges, and edges are code. free, instant, and they cannot be argued out of a verdict. a graph where every edge is an agent pays rent on its own wiring. one thing to know before you scale it. a graph has two return paths, and almost everyone builds one. ↳ the correction edge is short. a gate rejects one unit back to the step that produced it, and it fixes the run you are in ↳ the learning edge is long. an accepted result goes back to the splitter as a constraint, and it fixes every run after skip the second and you get a graph that is fast and never gets smarter. next week it starts from the same place with the same blind spots. and a smaller one that eats whole nights: when a unit fails, return that unit, not the batch. send back four slices because one failed and you have just rewritten three correct ones. do it twice in a run and the run never converges. below i have quoted my full guide on graph engineering. it covers the three topologies, the verifier patterns, and where the gate should actually open. save this and read it below ↓show more

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ChatGPT can write you a thousand trading strategies from one sentence. 999 will quietly bleed your account dry. Every single one of them looks like a winner. One method pulls the real one out. Quant desks have run it for years. It's called loop engineering. It's not a smarter prompt. It's a loop: generate a strategy, test it, score why it failed, feed that back, and run it again until one survives data it has never seen. Man Group runs $150 billion. They built an AI that writes and tests hundreds of strategies a week. And second agent whose only job is to hunt the ones that secretly overfit and kill them before a cent goes live. > describe an idea -> backtest 5 years in 12 seconds > read why it died -> feed that back in > run it again until one survives data it never saw AI can write a thousand strategies. Loop engineering is the only thing that tells you which one was ever real. 89% of retail lost money in 2025. Almost none of it from bad ideas. All of it from trading the first guess and never running it through backtest loop. Horizon just put the whole thing in a chat box, free while the beta's open: You're not losing to smarter traders. You're losing to the ones who opened the tab. Anyone can generate a strategy now. Almost no one runs the loop that proves it. That gap is the whole edge. You'll mean to check it later. Later is a "waitlist closed" page.

ChatGPT can write you a thousand trading strategies from one sentence. 999 will quietly bleed your account dry. Every single one of them looks like a winner. One method pulls the real one out. Quant desks have run it for years. It's called loop engineering. It's not a smarter prompt. It's a loop: generate a strategy, test it, score why it failed, feed that back, and run it again until one survives data it has never seen. Man Group runs $150 billion. They built an AI that writes and tests hundreds of strategies a week. And second agent whose only job is to hunt the ones that secretly overfit and kill them before a cent goes live. > describe an idea -> backtest 5 years in 12 seconds > read why it died -> feed that back in > run it again until one survives data it never saw AI can write a thousand strategies. Loop engineering is the only thing that tells you which one was ever real. 89% of retail lost money in 2025. Almost none of it from bad ideas. All of it from trading the first guess and never running it through backtest loop. Horizon just put the whole thing in a chat box, free while the beta's open: You're not losing to smarter traders. You're losing to the ones who opened the tab. Anyone can generate a strategy now. Almost no one runs the loop that proves it. That gap is the whole edge. You'll mean to check it later. Later is a "waitlist closed" page.

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173,703 görüntüleme • 2 ay önce

Google just dropped a 1-hour course on full AI engineering: from 1 agent to Loops and Graphs 7:02 - Build your first agent 13:34 - What agents can do 23:08 - Context engineering 32:56 - Graph engineering 54:11 - Full autonomous system One agent saves you an hour. A thousand replaces the team. Watch it, then read the full guide on loops and graphs below

Google just dropped a 1-hour course on full AI engineering: from 1 agent to Loops and Graphs 7:02 - Build your first agent 13:34 - What agents can do 23:08 - Context engineering 32:56 - Graph engineering 54:11 - Full autonomous system One agent saves you an hour. A thousand replaces the team. Watch it, then read the full guide on loops and graphs below

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38,150 görüntüleme • 6 gün önce

Andrew Ng just released a 2-hour course on full Graph Engineering. How to go from one prompt to 100 agents that loop, rewrite themselves, and run without you: 09:14 - Build your first AI agent 33:11 - Run agents with loop engineering 1:02:46 - Turn agent loops into graphs 1:30:15 - Build agents that rewrite themselves 1:49:05 - Run the full graph system without you Most people are still building one agent and calling it done. Andrew Ng is already teaching everything after: Prompt → Agents → Loops → Graphs → Self-Improving Systems Single agents are the old workflow. Systems that improve and run without you are the new one. This 2-hour watch is worth more than most $500 agent engineering courses. Bookmark and watch it before everyone catches up. Then read how to run 1,000 agents from one prompt below ↓

Andrew Ng just released a 2-hour course on full Graph Engineering. How to go from one prompt to 100 agents that loop, rewrite themselves, and run without you: 09:14 - Build your first AI agent 33:11 - Run agents with loop engineering 1:02:46 - Turn agent loops into graphs 1:30:15 - Build agents that rewrite themselves 1:49:05 - Run the full graph system without you Most people are still building one agent and calling it done. Andrew Ng is already teaching everything after: Prompt → Agents → Loops → Graphs → Self-Improving Systems Single agents are the old workflow. Systems that improve and run without you are the new one. This 2-hour watch is worth more than most $500 agent engineering courses. Bookmark and watch it before everyone catches up. Then read how to run 1,000 agents from one prompt below ↓

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223,862 görüntüleme • 15 gün önce