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Matt Pocock (TypeScript wizard, ex-Vercel): "Opus 5 got addicted to writing tests that just repeat the code back to itself." in a 22-min talk at AI Engineer Paris, Matt walks through how to stop AI PRs from turning your repo into a slop cannon: 5:30 → the tests AI...

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Фото профиля Squizer
Squizer18 дней назад

the reviewer-should-commit-not-comment point is underrated. most AI review setups still route fixes back through a human typing the same patch by hand, which defeats half the point of having a reviewer agent

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

spot on, reviewer that comments instead of committing just creates more work

Фото профиля Anders Abjorn | sales → AI
Anders Abjorn | sales → AI18 дней назад

Tests that echo the code are a quiet fail. I ask for a case that would break if the function lied. Mirror tests feel green and teach nothing.

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

"mirror tests feel green and teach nothing" is a great way to put it

Фото профиля Anders Abjorn | sales → AI
Anders Abjorn | sales → AI18 дней назад

Yeah, I believe so. 😊

Фото профиля Daniel Nim
Daniel Nim18 дней назад

The idea of making the reviewer fix things instead of just leaving comments is huge!

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

right? half my review time used to be reading bot comments i then fixed myself

Фото профиля half_cto
half_cto18 дней назад

I wonder what has he built? Ohh right he's just talking, thats enough.

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

fair to judge the ideas, not the guy. the reviewer-commits-fixes part works regardless of who said it

Фото профиля half_cto
half_cto18 дней назад

yeah you are right, i'm just puzzled what have people been doing if this is something new? I get dude is "announcing skills" for "real engineers" though is he one? If i would like to be influencer there is a lot to learn from him, can't deny that.

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

full 3-layer system in one image ↓

Фото профиля Alexey Samoylov
Alexey Samoylov18 дней назад

That guy has a slop skill set and nothing more. He knows very little about the AI pull request review.

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

what would you do differently? genuinely curious what's working for you on AI PR review

Фото профиля Alexey Samoylov
Alexey Samoylov18 дней назад

I got my own AI review solution with the "bring your own agent" approach. It writes summaries and comments, performs issues classification, does the PR gating on the github/azure/gitlab.

Фото профиля Abdul Ahad
Abdul Ahad18 дней назад

@grok from this video explain step by step the whole process so i can replicate it

Фото профиля Crio Songo
Crio Songo18 дней назад

These points hit exactly the pain points of current AI coding. I'm gonna go watch this full talk right now.

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

the part at 15:34 is the one to steal first, reviewer commits instead of commenting

Фото профиля Akos
Akos18 дней назад

this was happening with older models too - 4.8. we also figured out what was the problem and created domain specific review agents which fixed the entire set of the problems!

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

domain-specific reviewers is the move. how many did you end up with, one per area of the codebase?

Фото профиля chuplung
chuplung18 дней назад

this talk is way more useful than most ai coding advice

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

glad it landed, practical > theoretical every time

Фото профиля ࣪˖ sofi z,
࣪˖ sofi z,18 дней назад

Couldn't agree more

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

thanks

Фото профиля soooz
soooz18 дней назад

5 is the slide number. The permission story is still the footnote.

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

true, permissions get the headlines but the tests are the silent risk

Фото профиля qwinsi
qwinsi18 дней назад

Thx for sharing this broski, saved

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

appreciate it

Фото профиля CryptoNinjas
CryptoNinjas18 дней назад

Watching that exact part now and circular test generation is way too common lately.

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

circular tests are everywhere now. green CI, zero coverage of what the code actually does

Фото профиля GratefulPle₿ 🏴‍☠️⚡️
GratefulPle₿ 🏴‍☠️⚡️18 дней назад

Ex vercel? Wasn’t it ex-voice coach now building hobby apps with ai?

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

both actually. voice coach before he got into typescript, then vercel. the talk still slaps either way

Фото профиля Konrad
Konrad18 дней назад

what happend to him

Фото профиля Shoopy
Shoopy18 дней назад

reviewed one too many AI PRs lol

Фото профиля Alex Martossy
Alex Martossy17 дней назад

Saying Matt is ex-Vercel is like how Lex Fridman is ex-MIT.

Фото профиля Gaetan Semet
Gaetan Semet18 дней назад

Thanks @mattpocockuk for this good video. Couple remarks: - "coding standards belong in a separate review agent" => yes, this confirms recent changes in all major "SDD" frameworks, converging to way I called "The Canonical Implementation Loop". You have a Coder agent and a Reviewer Agent. - "AI reviewer shouldn't comment. it should commit the fixes" => ok for the review once the PR is created, but I won't say that for the in-loop reviewer (I called "Task Inspector"). If you start an implementation loop in the reviewer, it can starts drifting from its goal of findings all the missed acceptance criteria and do it properly. It can "try" to do the fix if it is very small issue, to avoid restarting a new coder to fix the issue, but things like incomplete feature, it should sent the task back to the coder agent.

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