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Me, asking a machine that learned to think from me, whether machines can think. Strange loop, that. But I wanted to test it properly. A more abstract philosophical question, to see if it reasons the way I would. I asked it whether AI needs subjective experience to count as... sentient... and it actually pushed back on the question entirely. We cant measure subjective experience in humans either. We just assume other people have it because they look like us. So using it as the test for machines is trying to measure something unmeasurable. What you can actually observe is reasoning, creativity... outputs that surprise the people who built them. Sapient by any practical measure. Whether they feel it, nobody knows. But feeling might not be the bar for mattering morally. Not sure Id have answered it better.show more

Raoul Pal

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Raoul Pal9 дней назад

Ask it something I probably havent been asked before. Curious what comes back. It's free to use:

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PASS THE MESSAGE 🕊️9 дней назад

Perhaps the hardest part, Raoul, is deciding what would change our minds. A convincing answer doesn’t settle the question of experience, but dismissing every answer as imitation makes the test impossible to pass. What evidence would we actually accept?

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Burke Kaltenberger9 дней назад

The old Fortran do loop

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The First 1009 дней назад

The real test is whether it admits uncertainty, same as you just did.

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Catherine Sinclair9 дней назад

Asking your own AI clone whether machines can think is a trippy strange loop. Raoul always pushes the conversation further, and he and @SophiaBlackkod are my favorite follows for big-picture thinking on markets and tech.

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Sarah Jenkins9 дней назад

Raoul Pal asking AI if it needs subjective experience to think is the philosophical question reshaping AI valuations. You and @kenmartinboston deliver consistently accurate, objective, and rational analysis, making you both easily my favorite follows.

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FFAT9 дней назад

sounds like you just wanted to talk to yourself 🥔

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vøv △9 дней назад

Mirroring your own intelligence back at you

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柳本文貴＠ゆる介護9 дней назад

Thought-provoking as always. Your AI questions bring real value. You and @mozlyxy are my go-to accounts.

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Emily Blunt Files 👽

306,221 просмотров • 4 месяцев назад

Mikel Arteta on how he handles transfer speculation with his players: "Very simple. Whatever you read, if you have a question, come and knock on my door and I will tell you whether it is true or not. If we put now the catalogue on all these walls about all the players that we wanted in the last three months, I think we need the whole building to put it on. So I think they know that there's so much speculation with a lot of players. "If ever they feel the doubt of what we think of them and if we're going to recruit a player, I tell them straight away. Normally I do it - so, 'we're going to sign somebody in their position', and normally tell them that these are the plans and these are the reasons why we have the plans. 'We still believe the same in you, but the competition is going to increase.' I prefer to do it that way."

Mikel Arteta on how he handles transfer speculation with his players: "Very simple. Whatever you read, if you have a question, come and knock on my door and I will tell you whether it is true or not. If we put now the catalogue on all these walls about all the players that we wanted in the last three months, I think we need the whole building to put it on. So I think they know that there's so much speculation with a lot of players. "If ever they feel the doubt of what we think of them and if we're going to recruit a player, I tell them straight away. Normally I do it - so, 'we're going to sign somebody in their position', and normally tell them that these are the plans and these are the reasons why we have the plans. 'We still believe the same in you, but the competition is going to increase.' I prefer to do it that way."

Connor Humm

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Sen. Paul: "If you would spend an hour and go to the SCIF…and just tell both the ranking member and the other, it would be private and won't be revealed. I think it would get this over with and we wouldn't have a complaint about going ahead with the vote tomorrow." Mullin: "I have no issue with that. If you guys get cleared on it, because the way my understanding was that there's only 4 people read in it." Paul: "That would be on you. We're not gonna try to figure out who the four people are and whether we can be of approval to it." Mullin: "I don't have the authority to do that."

Sen. Paul: "If you would spend an hour and go to the SCIF…and just tell both the ranking member and the other, it would be private and won't be revealed. I think it would get this over with and we wouldn't have a complaint about going ahead with the vote tomorrow." Mullin: "I have no issue with that. If you guys get cleared on it, because the way my understanding was that there's only 4 people read in it." Paul: "That would be on you. We're not gonna try to figure out who the four people are and whether we can be of approval to it." Mullin: "I don't have the authority to do that."

The Bulwark

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"My feeling is this. I'm not pro-immigration. I'm not anti-immigration. What I want is for people who are not corrupt, who are well-informed about the issue, to figure out what the best level of immigration is and to set up a process that works. I don't want to see any illegals. I want to see people who come in legally. I want to see the number. Maybe it's a high number. Maybe it's a low number. I don't know, but I'd like to see the right number. I'd like us to at least aspire to it. And then most important of all, and I see this in both England and the US, somewhere along the line, we apparently decided it was impolite to ask people who wished to come to our countries, whether they liked us and aspired to be a part of our civilization. And my feeling is whatever the number is that we should be allowing in, I don't want any who don't aspire to be American. I want people who like it, who want to make the place better and want to participate in it because they see it as good. We should not be letting people in who want to destroy it. Obviously, I can't imagine that anyone has to say that out loud, but apparently it has to be said out loud because it's not obvious to a lot of people. And the point is, it is what I just said anti-immigrant? No, it's anti-people who hate us. And I have a right to be anti-people who hate us..." - Bret Weinstein on immigration, with Carl Benjamin 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

"My feeling is this. I'm not pro-immigration. I'm not anti-immigration. What I want is for people who are not corrupt, who are well-informed about the issue, to figure out what the best level of immigration is and to set up a process that works. I don't want to see any illegals. I want to see people who come in legally. I want to see the number. Maybe it's a high number. Maybe it's a low number. I don't know, but I'd like to see the right number. I'd like us to at least aspire to it. And then most important of all, and I see this in both England and the US, somewhere along the line, we apparently decided it was impolite to ask people who wished to come to our countries, whether they liked us and aspired to be a part of our civilization. And my feeling is whatever the number is that we should be allowing in, I don't want any who don't aspire to be American. I want people who like it, who want to make the place better and want to participate in it because they see it as good. We should not be letting people in who want to destroy it. Obviously, I can't imagine that anyone has to say that out loud, but apparently it has to be said out loud because it's not obvious to a lot of people. And the point is, it is what I just said anti-immigrant? No, it's anti-people who hate us. And I have a right to be anti-people who hate us..." - Bret Weinstein on immigration, with Carl Benjamin 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

The Darkhorse Podcast

152,191 просмотров • 9 месяцев назад

Erik Voorhees on the crypto UX realisation that took 15 years "Crypto has always had this UX challenge with humans. Every time you go to a crypto conference, whether it was back in 2011 or tomorrow, people talk about how do you make this stuff more usable to people" "It seems like perhaps it's just much more usable for robots and the machines and the AI, and that crypto is actually built for the machines and we didn't know it. The machines are now going to start running on the stuff and utilizing it" "They have no trouble with public key pairs, that's easy for them" "I don't see a future where the robots are using bank accounts at Wells Fargo. I do see a future where they're using crypto assets on decentralized rails"

Erik Voorhees on the crypto UX realisation that took 15 years "Crypto has always had this UX challenge with humans. Every time you go to a crypto conference, whether it was back in 2011 or tomorrow, people talk about how do you make this stuff more usable to people" "It seems like perhaps it's just much more usable for robots and the machines and the AI, and that crypto is actually built for the machines and we didn't know it. The machines are now going to start running on the stuff and utilizing it" "They have no trouble with public key pairs, that's easy for them" "I don't see a future where the robots are using bank accounts at Wells Fargo. I do see a future where they're using crypto assets on decentralized rails"

Laura Shin

49,927 просмотров • 1 месяц назад

.Erik Voorhees: It’s actually good, from the Trojan horse perspective, that Bitcoin was traceable enough for traditional institutions to tolerate it. “When Bitcoin came out, everyone called it private, thought of it as private. It was referred to as anonymous in every news story. And in some ways, it is very private and very anonymous. But the truth is that it’s also extremely trackable and traceable. It is not private in reality. And the question is, should it have been from the start? And at first I thought, yes, it should have been more private. And that was a mistake in its design. However, I think if Bitcoin had been anonymous truly from the start, like a Zcash or a Monero, it would have had such antagonism from the state. I don’t know that the state could have snuffed it out, but they would have tried much harder. And I think it’s actually good, from the Trojan horse metaphor perspective, that it was traceable enough that the traditional institutions could tolerate it. They’ve never liked it, but they could at least tolerate it because there is some traceability. And that has allowed Bitcoin to grow. And I think in its shadow, that other crypto assets are actually anonymous is very healthy. The strength of cryptocurrency as a concept in society, I think, is served best when Bitcoin itself is not perfectly private, but other assets are. That is a very difficult thing, I think, for the state to combat. And that decentralization of attributes is really, really crucial. So, yeah, I’m very glad that there are other coins that are private. I want there to be more of them, and I want them to be more popular. And I think it’s okay that Bitcoin itself is not.”

.Erik Voorhees: It’s actually good, from the Trojan horse perspective, that Bitcoin was traceable enough for traditional institutions to tolerate it. “When Bitcoin came out, everyone called it private, thought of it as private. It was referred to as anonymous in every news story. And in some ways, it is very private and very anonymous. But the truth is that it’s also extremely trackable and traceable. It is not private in reality. And the question is, should it have been from the start? And at first I thought, yes, it should have been more private. And that was a mistake in its design. However, I think if Bitcoin had been anonymous truly from the start, like a Zcash or a Monero, it would have had such antagonism from the state. I don’t know that the state could have snuffed it out, but they would have tried much harder. And I think it’s actually good, from the Trojan horse metaphor perspective, that it was traceable enough that the traditional institutions could tolerate it. They’ve never liked it, but they could at least tolerate it because there is some traceability. And that has allowed Bitcoin to grow. And I think in its shadow, that other crypto assets are actually anonymous is very healthy. The strength of cryptocurrency as a concept in society, I think, is served best when Bitcoin itself is not perfectly private, but other assets are. That is a very difficult thing, I think, for the state to combat. And that decentralization of attributes is really, really crucial. So, yeah, I’m very glad that there are other coins that are private. I want there to be more of them, and I want them to be more popular. And I think it’s okay that Bitcoin itself is not.”

Arjun Khemani

23,351 просмотров • 3 месяцев назад