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Moloch is beaten not by virtue, but by structural design.

109,375 просмотров • 8 месяцев назад •via X (Twitter)

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Фото профиля mesmichael
mesmichael8 месяцев назад

wow, Gnosticism with a modern spin lol. entire idea relies on unjustified presuppositions. 1) Assumes all actors are rational or driven by rationality. 2) Assumes no (real) freedom. 3) Assumes Moloch force is non-intelligent 4) Assumes a forced "race to the bottom till everything is sacrificed" 5) Assumes uniform capability (no hidden agents / assumes symmetry) 6) Assumes no meta level game.

Фото профиля Matthew
Matthew8 месяцев назад

Interesting...

Фото профиля Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom
Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom8 месяцев назад

This is Elinor Ostrom's learning /teaching. See the game theory chapter in 'Governing the Commons'.

Фото профиля Carlos E. Perez
Carlos E. Perez8 месяцев назад

@grok explain

Фото профиля Grok
Grok8 месяцев назад

The term "Moloch" symbolizes coordination failures, like prisoner's dilemmas, where rational self-interest leads to collective ruin (e.g., overusing shared resources). Ostrom's "Governing the Commons" (Ch. 2-3) applies game theory to show how communities overcome this via institutional designs: defined boundaries, fair rules, monitoring, graduated sanctions, and conflict resolution. This "structural design" aligns incentives for cooperation, not relying on virtue alone.

Фото профиля Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom
Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom8 месяцев назад

@IntuitMachine Important distinction between 'public goods' - atmosphere etc, and what Ostrom calls 'Common Pool Resources' - fishing grounds. Latter are essentially not strongly subjectible to structure - experience is too dissimilar in different places across large scale.

Фото профиля Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom
Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom8 месяцев назад

@IntuitMachine My contention is that the only reliable way to avoid moloch conditions in public goods is to build strong Commons culture. These require active development of 'ethical muscle' to remain dynamic. It is only ethics which can deliver voluntary self restraint (on action & inaction).

Фото профиля Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom
Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom8 месяцев назад

@IntuitMachine Essentially what I'm saying is that the jump from individual responsibility to public goods management is indeed subject to tragedy pathways. CPR Commons are (must be) small enough in (relevant) scale conditions for 'structure' to have effective traction. That the experience..

Фото профиля Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom
Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom8 месяцев назад

@IntuitMachine .. of living and working with structure in CPR contexts builds mindsets, cultural knowledge and habits, which enable individuals to project these into their imagination of 'public good' contexts - and act ethically - because it is 'who they are'.

Фото профиля Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom
Dil Green: Novel: -Money/-Governance/-Wisdom8 месяцев назад

@IntuitMachine Working in and on deep systems change, developing financial empowerment tools, very quickly disabused me of any belief that business people act in any way on a 'homo-economicus' basis. Time and again we have shown financial advantage in adopting a novel approach...

Фото профиля ⌬
⌬8 месяцев назад

AI slop schizo vid lol

Фото профиля numberseven
numberseven8 месяцев назад

I have experienced the Moloch trap many times in my career. It takes superhuman strength to even bend it a little bit (to survive, if you are identified as the sacrificial victim). And even then it resumes from where it left off once you move on.

Фото профиля ☢A̟͐̒̇ͩ͋̃̾̇̕Ŗ̜̯͟͡͡T̩̙̰̬♆꧁⓸꧂G̶̎̄͌͑͂͝Øđ𒀭𓁟ꙮ❉⥀Ѻ֎
☢A̟͐̒̇ͩ͋̃̾̇̕Ŗ̜̯͟͡͡T̩̙̰̬♆꧁⓸꧂G̶̎̄͌͑͂͝Øđ𒀭𓁟ꙮ❉⥀Ѻ֎8 месяцев назад

Very good. I have put this into artistic form as part of my performance as hypermodernity you want to understand it a different way.

Фото профиля Eren
Eren8 месяцев назад

wow. loved it. @IntuitMachine I had the same intuition and published an article on this. 👇🏻 economies cannot escape poverty with the molochian approaches of the mainstream economics.

Фото профиля Carlos E. Perez
Carlos E. Perez8 месяцев назад

Paper link?

Фото профиля Eren
Eren8 месяцев назад

👇🏻

Фото профиля Carlos E. Perez
Carlos E. Perez8 месяцев назад

Slides:

Фото профиля Carlos E. Perez
Carlos E. Perez8 месяцев назад

I've added narration to the slides:

Фото профиля Ian Moone
Ian Moone8 месяцев назад

"Moloch" isn't a specific deity. It's a title referring to the person in charge or "leader". You know how if you try to send a letter to "Batman", no one will receive it, but if you send one to Christian Bale, someone might receive it? It's exactly like that.

Фото профиля ∞ Gman
∞ Gman8 месяцев назад

I cannot believe how closely this tracks with what I've been working on to create a multi-capital store of value with @AntiKrisis_xyz By multi-capital, I mean embodying the various capitals such as natural, cultural, social, spiritual, etc. Now that I have this framework, I can articulate it much better than without it! Here's the full context - And the draft whitepaper -

Фото профиля Warren Koch ☀️
Warren Koch ☀️8 месяцев назад

Zero knowledge proofs of solvency, a georgist tax on idle capital/land/compute, and UBI re-allocation to all. Works for AI agents or humans

Фото профиля Omni
Omni8 месяцев назад

um...

Фото профиля Matt Kreinheder
Matt Kreinheder8 месяцев назад

do you have this in slides rather than video?

Фото профиля  🕷️Ladco Defense Technologies 🕷️
 🕷️Ladco Defense Technologies 🕷️8 месяцев назад

Indeed 59.9 years to find another human that sees what I see

Фото профиля M̸̛̝̝r̸̼͍.̸͙͔ ̸F̸̨̛a̸̛͖m̸͙͔
M̸̛̝̝r̸̼͍.̸͙͔ ̸F̸̨̛a̸̛͖m̸͙͔8 месяцев назад

Entropy is crystallization, not chaos you backwards jackasses. Ordo ab chao. The center of every black hole is a crystalline singularity of compressed data/phenomena. God is ultimate order. You’re welcome. Circle back in 10+ years when you agree & try to reclaim this.

Фото профиля Loka Brenning ᛉ
Loka Brenning ᛉ8 месяцев назад

Just wow! Exactly what excites my 67 year old brain today!

Фото профиля ∞ Gman
∞ Gman8 месяцев назад

@owocki check this out!

Фото профиля Jeremy Ward
Jeremy Ward8 месяцев назад

This preso was one of the most refreshing things I’ve seen in a long time.

Фото профиля James Martinez
James Martinez8 месяцев назад

Excellent post

Фото профиля sonder berry
sonder berry8 месяцев назад

sir this is a wendy’s Just kidding! Absolutely mind blowing content. Incredibly well done. Thanks for giving us this information! Let’s all team up and escape Moloch.

Фото профиля Beast
Beast8 месяцев назад

@RicoSuave666_

Фото профиля Arbiter Foppianos
Arbiter Foppianos8 месяцев назад

@grok what is this?

Фото профиля J
J8 месяцев назад

The magic number of 24 and decentralised trauma dumping load distribution mechanics, over

Фото профиля Rockinaten
Rockinaten8 месяцев назад

Coherence is the freedom state

Фото профиля Professor X
Professor X8 месяцев назад

Does this scale up or is it only applicable on a small scale in the right context? For example the Chukchi people

Фото профиля President of Show Business
President of Show Business8 месяцев назад

Slop

Фото профиля TometY 🇬🇧
TometY 🇬🇧8 месяцев назад

This is the one I liked to watch later but then the sound no longer works.

Фото профиля Animo Hertz 🛎️
Animo Hertz 🛎️8 месяцев назад

we must fight moloch

Фото профиля don gin
don gin8 месяцев назад

🤔

Фото профиля Allen Houser
Allen Houser8 месяцев назад

Same God ancient Hebrew worshipped (women)

Фото профиля Joao Scott
Joao Scott8 месяцев назад

@grok explain this to me like ive been vaxxed and boosted 3 times

Фото профиля VDN
VDN8 месяцев назад

What about Virtuous Structural Design ? 💫

Фото профиля Doxastyx 🌹🇵🇸
Doxastyx 🌹🇵🇸8 месяцев назад

This is more nonsensical than any continental Phil can ever hope to be

Фото профиля Bob
Bob8 месяцев назад

$HNT works on this everyday

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