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PixelPronghorn🇺🇲 的头像
PixelPronghorn🇺🇲2 个月前

If we used a base 12 counting system, this wouldn't work btw. .9 repeating will never actually equal 1. It's just due to how we use numbers.

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

Same works in Base12 actually! Just not with the digit 9. If we use: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B, Then 0.BBB... = 1

PixelPronghorn🇺🇲 的头像
PixelPronghorn🇺🇲2 个月前

So I just went into a deep dive on this and it turns out i believed in hyperreal numbers without knowing what they were. Cool.

Alopecoid 的头像
Alopecoid2 个月前

Ngl an easier way to show anyone not too versed in algebra is by showing them the pattern for any number divided by 9. Starting with 1⁄9, you get 0.1̅, arriving to 8⁄9, you get 0.8̅, & following that pattern, you'd expect 9⁄9 to be 0.9̅, & 9⁄9 is a whole fraction, so 0.9̅ = 1

Just Dandy 🐱 的头像
Just Dandy 🐱2 个月前

Didn't know VR chat furries teaching me math in a winter cabin over a fireplace was a genera of entertainment I needed.

Rong-Yao Arts 的头像
Rong-Yao Arts2 个月前

0.999x10=9.99 not 9.999 also you resolving x in the second cell but you are not resolving x in the first cell, you just assume t hat x is x [because x can't be two values, yes but you separated it] if you remove decimal you must add x-decimal to complete the equation. aka 0.999

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

That's actually incorrect. 0.9̅ × 10 is still equal to 9.9̅ with the decimal. This is because the decimal repeats infinitely. 0.9̅ is just another way to write 0.99999.... (infinite nines) So when we shift the decimal place by one, we still have an infinite amount of nines.

Rong-Yao Arts 的头像
Rong-Yao Arts2 个月前

i think you are incorrect and lacking of understanding how important a fraction of something is sorry, we cannot just make up math, i don't know what teachers teaching you in school nowadays but you cannot generalize in math e.g. pi ellipsis means you just don't represent it

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

Official documentation of this by the way. Here's a Harvard paper explaining the same concept. We're not "making up math". This is the standard.

Rong-Yao Arts 的头像
Rong-Yao Arts2 个月前

well math states x=/=xε unless ε=0

Justin Bal 的头像
Justin Bal2 个月前

@Wrenosaur_ I found it helpful to view it as a geometric series. 0.9(0.1)^0 + 0.9(0.1)^1 + 0.9(0.1)^2 + … + 0.9(0.1)^n = 0.9(1 - (0.1)^n)/(1 - 0.1) = 1 - (0.1)^n As n -> inf, 1 - (0.1)^n -> 1

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

@HanRongYao Yes! You can actually express it as this

lemon 的头像
lemon2 个月前

By that logic any number is equal to every other number (20-X = 19) and a separate equation (25-X = 19) uses the same logic that would prove that and 6 and 1 are the same number The X value AND the starting value WEREN'T the same in the video, which doesn't prove squat

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

20 - X = 19. X = 1 25 - X = 19 X = 6 No, it doesn't create equivalence between any two numbers. It simply states that (0.999...) = 1.

lemon 的头像
lemon2 个月前

Nope. The X wasn't the same number in YOUR logic, and you can only prove it with the assumption that 0.999 is 1, which is what the problem is trying to solve. It's a simple case of circular reasoning. You can only prove it with the assumption that its already true,

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

If we consider that x = 0.999... Then we can prove that 9x = 9 That means that x = 1. The equivalence is gathered through transitivity. 0.999... = x = 1 0.999... = 1 You can prove this very neatly through summations and limits as well. The sum converges infinitely.

lemon 的头像
lemon2 个月前

Then how come the proof is in the red but you can only find the proof by assuming the proof is real in the yellow before you find the answer in the red

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

We didn't assume anything. This was gathered both in the video, and in my comments to you. If you claim that my explanation is wrong, then please point out exactly where this mathematical proof fails.

lemon 的头像
lemon2 个月前

Here because you're assuming they're the same and not slightly different by an infinite margin because its a infinite ending in 0 and not an infinite ending in 9

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

"Infinite ending"... 😐 The definition of "infinite" is never-ending. Infinite has no 'end'. What are you talking about?

Star Seeker 的头像
Star Seeker2 个月前

Bro got a tongue so big it is distracting

🇨🇦 MELL0W#0413 🛡 的头像
🇨🇦 MELL0W#0413 🛡2 个月前

Yoooo

Snowy Patriot ☃️ 的头像
Snowy Patriot ☃️2 个月前

I love math. And it felt good to finally learn a new math concept. It’s been years! :3

Elijah 的头像
Elijah2 个月前

You genuinely left me stunned. No error in the math, no errors in your explanation. Dang.... (I'm really a math nerd, and I really don't do this XD)

Kairne 🇺🇸 的头像
Kairne 🇺🇸2 个月前

The weird math-logic way of explaining this property is that 1.0 and 0.999 have no discernible, finite values between them. You can always find another number between any two numbers on the number line. If you cannot find a value between two values, then they’re the same number.

James Brown 的头像
James Brown2 个月前

This is a good intro to get people to start understanding limits, but it ultimately fails since 10x-x is arbitrarily 9x in this system. A better way to prove this is with the Archimedean property, or even the nested intervals theorem (idk if most people will understand that tho)

Unavailable Crimson 的头像
Unavailable Crimson2 个月前

I was just gonna say rounding

Nitro Wolf 902 - 3D Artist 的头像
Nitro Wolf 902 - 3D Artist2 个月前

Bro where were you when I was in high school

DarioD22_ 的头像
DarioD22_2 个月前

Another easier way to approach this problem, and my personal favorite, is with fractions: 1/3 = 0.333... 0.333... × 3 = 0.999... 1/3 × 3 = 3/3 = 1 0.999... = 1

Dusty Kowboy 的头像
Dusty Kowboy2 个月前

great! now, divide by zero and make it work

RahzahkTheGnoll 的头像
RahzahkTheGnoll2 个月前

I was completely unaware that if I wanted to learn math, I needed it to be taught by a furry femboy in vr chat. The More You Know🌈

SmokeyMoon 的头像
SmokeyMoon2 个月前

Great vid

arkveld enjoyer 的头像
arkveld enjoyer2 个月前

So I kinda have a question: Mainly, can we actually assign a variable to an infinitely repeating number like that and have it behave like a normal number? I can't help but feel like assigning a variable would have to mean that there'd need to be a definite number of 9's

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

There's plenty of instances in math where we assign variables to infinite expansions & series. It actually helps us find solutions for these problems. Also, we dont have to assign a variable to 0.999 for this to work. We can write it out without saying x (it's just inefficient)

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

(0.999...) + (0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) = 9.999.... That's ten 0.999...s, So, 10 × (0.999...) = (9.999...) 10 × (0.999...) = (9 + 0.999...) (minus 0.999... from both sides) 9 × (0.999...) = 9

Zylex SquishyPaws 的头像
Zylex SquishyPaws2 个月前

Furry math is the best:3

Bink 的头像
Bink2 个月前

I can't remember the last time the transitive property was relevant, much less to resolve an apparent contradiction...but this looks like it checks out. o.o

Fawxy Ventures 的头像
Fawxy Ventures2 个月前

If you torture numbers enough, it will confess to anything.

𝕵𝕵𝕯 的头像
𝕵𝕵𝕯2 个月前

I pray for a day that a math teacher pulls out video like this

🔞 🔞 的头像
🔞 🔞2 个月前

My god how far I would excel in math if all my math professors were this cute

Styx 的头像
Styx2 个月前

The end blooper is so relatable 😂😂😂

Aleksi the bunny // Floradinn OC WIP 的头像
Aleksi the bunny // Floradinn OC WIP2 个月前

w pull

Lil Bit Salty. 的头像
Lil Bit Salty.2 个月前

i learn something new everyday.

Henry III 的头像
Henry III2 个月前

This fucking guy is better than my math teacher😭

JustNia 🦇 的头像
JustNia 🦇2 个月前

Holy shit

Clover @ Home 的头像
Clover @ Home1 个月前

A lot of people who have never taken a college math class getting real confident in the replies. Especially the people claiming that you're wrong because they think 10*0.999... would actually be 9.99 not 9.999 without realizing that it's infinite decimals.

Zyroz 的头像
Zyroz2 个月前

Please teach me curvature and torsion

Kenneth The Bat 的头像
Kenneth The Bat2 个月前

Please more math!

moni 🇧🇬 的头像
moni 🇧🇬2 个月前

10x0,999=9,99 so 9x=9,99-0,999 which is equal to 8,991 so this is really fucking incorrect

🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵 的头像
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵2 个月前

It's correct. It's an infinite decimal. Its not just 0.999 hard stop. It's 0.9̅9̅9̅. It repeats forever. 0.999999999..... (infinite nines)

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