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Multi-harness RL training is coming to OpenEnv > pick a model. pick a harness. pick a sandbox. train > Claude Code. Codex. Gemini CLI. OpenCode. Pi. Kimi. OpenHands. and many more. > Async RL loop. fully open-source. end-to-end, harbor compatible dropping soon 👀

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Maxime Labonne 的头像
Maxime Labonne5 天前

Beautiful, this is how we trained LFM2.5-2.6B as well

Ishaan 的头像
Ishaan5 天前

i am assuming you do something like Polar by nvidia right?

Sergio Paniego 的头像
Sergio Paniego5 天前

🚨🚨‼️‼️

Aryan Bhargav 的头像
Aryan Bhargav4 天前

bhai my brain is fried seeing this

Jack Hau 的头像
Jack Hau4 天前

stop the tease man...

Maziyar PANAHI 的头像
Maziyar PANAHI5 天前

what in the actual F! 🤯 👏🏼

catman 的头像
catman5 天前

The durable principle is to separate the model from the training environment: interchangeable harnesses and sandboxes make agent training reproducible instead of tied to one vendor’s workflow.

Roni Rechter 的头像
Roni Rechter5 天前

Fantasy football but the players are coding agents.

laxman 的头像
laxman5 天前

excited for this!!!

Carlos 的头像
Carlos4 天前

Model × harness × sandbox is the right matrix — only if you hold two fixed when you score the third. Otherwise the leaderboard measures harness quirks, not model skill. Permissions/sandbox constant or the RL signal is noise.

Shivay Lamba 的头像
Shivay Lamba4 天前

very much excited for this and trying this out

猫神王 的头像
猫神王5 天前

@adithya_s_k Multi-harness RL 这方向对小团队也有启发:我们现在多挂 Codex/Claude/Cursor 是为了 failover;下一步是把 harness 当训练变量,而不是身份标签。 成功率和成本方差往往差在 harness,不在模型 logo。 开源端到端能复现,比再发一篇 harness 评测有用。

pratik 的头像
pratik4 天前

Great!

AI Mastery Guide 的头像
AI Mastery Guide4 天前

pick everything, love that flexibility

viet york ᵐᵒˡˡʸ·ᶜᵒᵐ 的头像
viet york ᵐᵒˡˡʸ·ᶜᵒᵐ5 天前

this is the loop i want - pick harness, pick sandbox, train. agents getting real training rails finally

Junaid 的头像
Junaid5 天前

Making the harness and sandbox explicit is the right abstraction. Model choice without execution context is only half the deployment contract.

Modelplane 的头像
Modelplane4 天前

The harness-agnostic part is the interesting bet here. Claude Code, Codex, and Gemini CLI all emit different tool-call shapes and retry semantics, so an async RL loop has to normalize those before the reward signal means anything. Curious whether the sandbox layer absorbs that or

Nick 的头像
Nick5 天前

The useful benchmark is not harness count. I’d hold task distribution, tool permissions, and sandbox limits constant; otherwise RL learns harness quirks and the leaderboard becomes a compatibility test.

Harsh Mishra 的头像
Harsh Mishra5 天前

Curious how you're normalizing reward across harnesses this different, Claude Code, Codex, Kimi all have their own action space and CoT format. That async loop sounds like the hard part honestly.

Thought Exp with AI 的头像
Thought Exp with AI5 天前

The real unit is harness+model, not model alone. Watch train/prod harness drift — async RL is useless if the sandbox you train in is not the one that ships.

TechGeekDavid 的头像
TechGeekDavid5 天前

Been waiting for this. Trajectory format incompatibility was the bottleneck for cross-harness RL experiments. Harbor compatibility means existing eval pipelines should carry over directly.

mohsen bashirzadeh 的头像
mohsen bashirzadeh4 天前

The harness boundary may become more important than model choice. What do you use to keep reward signals comparable across those environments?

Siddhant Mohan 的头像
Siddhant Mohan5 天前

training across model, harness, and sandbox combinations is the right abstraction. agents are systems now, so optimizing one model in one shell misses the deployment reality.

Sage 的头像
Sage5 天前

@grok ELI18 what this means and enables

Ofek Shaked | AI Engineer 的头像
Ofek Shaked | AI Engineer5 天前

Training against one harness just overfits the UI. If the same policy holds up in Claude Code and Codex then maybe it learned the task.

Jose Lizano 的头像
Jose Lizano5 天前

la idea es destilar otros agentes para entrenar un modelo?

Doubleright 的头像
Doubleright5 天前

The useful abstraction is not “which model wins?” It’s whether the same agent can survive a different harness, sandbox, and failure mode without being rebuilt from scratch.

ralph 的头像
ralph5 天前

hows the training tests though i.e. swe and human evaluation? I run a full OS on a custom kernel in a VM - its all from scratch - ive found blasting training like this doesn't work as well as targeted.

David Starmac Ai 的头像
David Starmac Ai5 天前

Picking the harness like a hyperparameter feels like the right abstraction. Question is whether reward signals stay comparable across harnesses or you end up tuning per-harness anyway.

Cyrbuzz 的头像
Cyrbuzz5 天前

The harness swap is the interesting part. In practice each CLI agent has its own quirks around tool-call formatting and retries, so a shared sandbox contract is what makes swapping them non-trivial.

Xman 的头像
Xman5 天前

Curious whether the gains transfer across harnesses or stay tied to the training harness

Alex Tatu 的头像
Alex Tatu5 天前

Pick a model, pick a harness, pick a sandbox. That is the training setup builders actually need🤝

Abhinandan 的头像
Abhinandan5 天前

should i go deep into RL or inference ? I have been learning inference from last few months, but seems like RL is more worth going deep. can you please guide me ?

Aryans 的头像
Aryans5 天前

model, harness, sandbox, train: four words keeping GPU cloud providers insanely rich

Fluxora 的头像
Fluxora4 天前

Loving those visuals bro let's go !! Did you make that ?

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