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Multiple Hill sources confirm: Coinbase is lobbying AGAINST Bitcoin de minimis tax exemptions Their message to lawmakers: "Nobody uses Bitcoin as money" and "it would be DOA" Meanwhile they're pushing stablecoin-only exemptions @martybent exposes what's really happening

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Janessa Lopez from Block: “Any time somebody uses bitcoin as a form of money, it should be treated as that.” The de minimis exemption for stablecoins only is NOT an acceptable compromise. Block is fighting for adoption, not corporate half-measures.

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Investing in precious metals is a religion Bitcoin proved this by being better money The precious metals investors don't plan to change their opinion, no matter how many facts are presented (Just like religion) Everything that Peter Schiff mentioned in this debate with Saifedean Ammous as a downside of Bitcoin, can be applied to gold Nobody sends and receives gold to settle transactions today, but Peter wants to convince you that Bitcoin isn't money ("My religion is better") Once you get out of the precious metals echo chamber, you can start analyzing the world with a fresh mind Peter criticizes Michael Saylor for buying $55B of Bitcoin and only being at break-even When Bitcoin is at $150K, MSTR's 700,000 BTC stack will have doubled When Bitcoin is $300K, $MSTR's Bitcoin will be worth 4x what they paid for it When it gets to $1M, MSTR's current holdings would be worth $700 BILLION That's a 13X Even after that happens, Peter will be saying Bitcoin is a scam Because like I said... Investing in precious metals is a religion

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So, does it matter that Bitcoin seems to be moving away from its cypherpunk roots? Bitcoin ETFs and Bitcoin Treasuries have taken BTC mainstream. So I asked Saifedean Ammous this very question. His answer might surprise you... 👀👇 "If you have very strong feelings about how people should and shouldn't use Bitcoin, you're in for a rough time." "To be honest, a lot of people project too much onto Bitcoin. Ultimately, it's just a bunch of software and anybody can use it in any way they want. Initially, it's a small subset of people that use it and then they start projecting their values onto it. And then over time, they expect it to continue to abide by that," Ammous said. "If it's a successful technology, it's going to be used by everybody. It's going to be used by small businesses, large businesses, governments, individuals. It's money. Everybody uses money. There are 8.5 billion people on Earth, they all use money and they're all going to continue to use money. And Bitcoin is just the best money." Ultimately, the protocol itself is immune to the financial instruments that TradFi has concocted. If people want to lend against their BTC or create complex financial products, that does not actually impact the underlying network. "The way that the protocol works is that it's completely blind to what you're doing with your coins on the Bitcoin blockchain there is no paper Bitcoin there's no such thing as paper Bitcoin there's only 21 million Bitcoin and every node makes sure of that every 10 minutes and then if somebody who has some of these Bitcoin on their private key decides to sell obligations or financial liabilities referring to that Bitcoin under any condition, that's their choice. It's outside of Bitcoin and it's outside of the realm of other Bitcoin users being able to say this is right or wrong and this should happen or shouldn't happen. People are going to do whatever they want with the Bitcoin, including selling access to it or exposure to it in all kinds of different ways. And if you don't like it, you don't buy it, you can stack your own Bitcoin." You can find the full interview for Cointelegraph in the 🧵. If you enjoyed this content, please like 🧡, retweet 🔁 and follow me 👋!

So, does it matter that Bitcoin seems to be moving away from its cypherpunk roots? Bitcoin ETFs and Bitcoin Treasuries have taken BTC mainstream. So I asked Saifedean Ammous this very question. His answer might surprise you... 👀👇 "If you have very strong feelings about how people should and shouldn't use Bitcoin, you're in for a rough time." "To be honest, a lot of people project too much onto Bitcoin. Ultimately, it's just a bunch of software and anybody can use it in any way they want. Initially, it's a small subset of people that use it and then they start projecting their values onto it. And then over time, they expect it to continue to abide by that," Ammous said. "If it's a successful technology, it's going to be used by everybody. It's going to be used by small businesses, large businesses, governments, individuals. It's money. Everybody uses money. There are 8.5 billion people on Earth, they all use money and they're all going to continue to use money. And Bitcoin is just the best money." Ultimately, the protocol itself is immune to the financial instruments that TradFi has concocted. If people want to lend against their BTC or create complex financial products, that does not actually impact the underlying network. "The way that the protocol works is that it's completely blind to what you're doing with your coins on the Bitcoin blockchain there is no paper Bitcoin there's no such thing as paper Bitcoin there's only 21 million Bitcoin and every node makes sure of that every 10 minutes and then if somebody who has some of these Bitcoin on their private key decides to sell obligations or financial liabilities referring to that Bitcoin under any condition, that's their choice. It's outside of Bitcoin and it's outside of the realm of other Bitcoin users being able to say this is right or wrong and this should happen or shouldn't happen. People are going to do whatever they want with the Bitcoin, including selling access to it or exposure to it in all kinds of different ways. And if you don't like it, you don't buy it, you can stack your own Bitcoin." You can find the full interview for Cointelegraph in the 🧵. If you enjoyed this content, please like 🧡, retweet 🔁 and follow me 👋!

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Don't sell the #Bitcoin, borrow against it Recorded this video in May 2019 when BTC was $8k, predicted it to be $20k within a year and $100k within 5 years. both came true, although my conviction wasn't as strong back then as today, and sometimes it still seems hard to believe. But the message is still the same. Don't sell your Bitcoin Also, don't leverage your Bitcoin if you don't have to. We should be earning $ to pay for our living expenses and continue stacking, however... if you were forced to sell your stack for any reason, a better option might be to borrow against it tax-free and continue HODLing to ride it to $1m, $15m, $50m, and beyond.

Don't sell the #Bitcoin, borrow against it Recorded this video in May 2019 when BTC was $8k, predicted it to be $20k within a year and $100k within 5 years. both came true, although my conviction wasn't as strong back then as today, and sometimes it still seems hard to believe. But the message is still the same. Don't sell your Bitcoin Also, don't leverage your Bitcoin if you don't have to. We should be earning $ to pay for our living expenses and continue stacking, however... if you were forced to sell your stack for any reason, a better option might be to borrow against it tax-free and continue HODLing to ride it to $1m, $15m, $50m, and beyond.

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379,150 次观看 • 1 年前

.Bitcoin Isn't About You was the first person I remember coining the phrase “monetary use case of Bitcoin,” and it never sat well with me. To me Bitcoin is money, full stop. Framing it as a “use case” suggests it might be something else, which betrays its original purpose. In the white paper, Satoshi used the phrase “honest nodes” FIFTEEN times. At the time, nodes were also miners, so this can rightly be interpreted as “honest miners.” But to speak of honest miners is to imply the possibility of dishonest ones, those who would act against the intent and integrity of the monetary network. Attacks are real. Sometimes they are obvious, and sometimes they are obfuscated through relativism, but satoshi believed they were real and he laid out a blue print for how to thwart their attacks. Don’t be fooled by semantics to redefine Bitcoin and gaslighting that would suggest we all want the same thing. We have one chance to get this right, and the solution as laid out very clearly is hostility against any attempt to make Bitcoin anything other than a decentralized cryptocurrency.

.Bitcoin Isn't About You was the first person I remember coining the phrase “monetary use case of Bitcoin,” and it never sat well with me. To me Bitcoin is money, full stop. Framing it as a “use case” suggests it might be something else, which betrays its original purpose. In the white paper, Satoshi used the phrase “honest nodes” FIFTEEN times. At the time, nodes were also miners, so this can rightly be interpreted as “honest miners.” But to speak of honest miners is to imply the possibility of dishonest ones, those who would act against the intent and integrity of the monetary network. Attacks are real. Sometimes they are obvious, and sometimes they are obfuscated through relativism, but satoshi believed they were real and he laid out a blue print for how to thwart their attacks. Don’t be fooled by semantics to redefine Bitcoin and gaslighting that would suggest we all want the same thing. We have one chance to get this right, and the solution as laid out very clearly is hostility against any attempt to make Bitcoin anything other than a decentralized cryptocurrency.

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76,644 次观看 • 1 年前

Bitcoin holds the mid-60s while $800 billion comes off AI stocks "Maybe the story isn't the flatness of the market right now, but the fact that we're seeing major wobbles in other markets which have not really affected Bitcoin" "Magnificent Seven worst days since April 2025. Google basically saying they're going to spend hundreds of billions building out AI, which means stock goes down even though earnings were good. Oil pushing towards $100" "These are the kind of factors that in the past would have caused a major selloff for Bitcoin, which has not been happening this time. You would have expected Bitcoin to be trading under $60-ish, and that is not the case"

Bitcoin holds the mid-60s while $800 billion comes off AI stocks "Maybe the story isn't the flatness of the market right now, but the fact that we're seeing major wobbles in other markets which have not really affected Bitcoin" "Magnificent Seven worst days since April 2025. Google basically saying they're going to spend hundreds of billions building out AI, which means stock goes down even though earnings were good. Oil pushing towards $100" "These are the kind of factors that in the past would have caused a major selloff for Bitcoin, which has not been happening this time. You would have expected Bitcoin to be trading under $60-ish, and that is not the case"

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35,603 次观看 • 13 天前

🚨 COINBASE JUST LAUNCHED CRYPTO LOANS IN THE UK 🇬🇧 🚨 You can now borrow up to $5 million in USDC against your Bitcoin or Ethereum. Without selling a single sat 👀 🤔 So is it taxable? And the honest answer right now is… it depends. HMRC’s rules hinge on beneficial ownership. If you pledge your BTC as collateral but still own it economically, the argument is there is no disposal and no CGT. But HMRC have never confirmed this for products like Coinbase’s. That ambiguity is exactly why I am in active conversations with HMRC around their DeFi discussion document 🔍 Their own consultation proposed that locking tokens as collateral should NOT trigger a taxable event as long as you retain economic ownership. Not law yet. But if it lands the way it is written, this could be genuinely tax free for UK users 🙌 This is massive for anyone who wants liquidity without a tax bill. Follow for updates as this develops. I will be watching it closely 👇 #Ethereum #CryptoTax #UKCryptoTax #Coinbase #Bitcoin

🚨 COINBASE JUST LAUNCHED CRYPTO LOANS IN THE UK 🇬🇧 🚨 You can now borrow up to $5 million in USDC against your Bitcoin or Ethereum. Without selling a single sat 👀 🤔 So is it taxable? And the honest answer right now is… it depends. HMRC’s rules hinge on beneficial ownership. If you pledge your BTC as collateral but still own it economically, the argument is there is no disposal and no CGT. But HMRC have never confirmed this for products like Coinbase’s. That ambiguity is exactly why I am in active conversations with HMRC around their DeFi discussion document 🔍 Their own consultation proposed that locking tokens as collateral should NOT trigger a taxable event as long as you retain economic ownership. Not law yet. But if it lands the way it is written, this could be genuinely tax free for UK users 🙌 This is massive for anyone who wants liquidity without a tax bill. Follow for updates as this develops. I will be watching it closely 👇 #Ethereum #CryptoTax #UKCryptoTax #Coinbase #Bitcoin

🇬🇧 Jme 🧪

42,993 次观看 • 3 个月前

A gold analyst just made the best case for bitcoin I've heard all year. By accident. His whole thesis: "the beauty of gold is it's not used for anything." Send gold to $1,000,000 and nobody gets hurt. Send corn to $1,000 a bushel and people starve. Send oil there and the economy collapses. A reserve asset has to be useless, because money that doubles as something people need to consume punishes everyone the moment it goes up. He's right. He just stopped one step short. Gold still has day jobs. Jewelry, electronics, dentistry. Bitcoin is used for even less. It was built to be money and nothing else. No industrial demand fighting its monetary demand, nothing to melt down, no factory waiting on the supply. Gold is useless enough to be great money. Bitcoin is useless at everything except being money. Same principle, taken to its logical end. The purest reserve asset isn't the one with the fewest uses. It's the one with none.

A gold analyst just made the best case for bitcoin I've heard all year. By accident. His whole thesis: "the beauty of gold is it's not used for anything." Send gold to $1,000,000 and nobody gets hurt. Send corn to $1,000 a bushel and people starve. Send oil there and the economy collapses. A reserve asset has to be useless, because money that doubles as something people need to consume punishes everyone the moment it goes up. He's right. He just stopped one step short. Gold still has day jobs. Jewelry, electronics, dentistry. Bitcoin is used for even less. It was built to be money and nothing else. No industrial demand fighting its monetary demand, nothing to melt down, no factory waiting on the supply. Gold is useless enough to be great money. Bitcoin is useless at everything except being money. Same principle, taken to its logical end. The purest reserve asset isn't the one with the fewest uses. It's the one with none.

Bitcoin Well

112,300 次观看 • 21 天前

Bitcoin is money AND digital gold. The two are not mutually exclusive. For Michael Saylor - it's the purest form of digital credit. For David Marcus - it's the payment rails of the future. "No one cares what humans think about how people need to Bitcoin because it's an unopinionated, code-based money platform." The Lightspark founder is forging ahead with building Bitcoin-based payment rails, while Saylor and Strategy are doubling down on Bitcoin-backed financial products. "I'm really grateful that Michael is really focused on the store of value use case, and he can do that, and I can be the one focused on bringing utility to Bitcoin. Both things will actually help one another to make Bitcoin more relevant to many more people and that's the beauty of building on an open network," Marcus told Robert Baggs and me on our latest Chain Reaction show. Marcus has been keenly focused on abstracting complexity away from payments using Bitcoin payments infrastructure with the launch of Lightspark Grid. "It's like Bitcoin as a network being used to move all kinds of other money, whether it's stablecoin or fiat at the edges, and you don't even understand that you're using Bitcoin. For instance, if you're a SoFi client in the US, and you want to send money to Europe or India, Brazil or Mexico, you send dollars and the other person on the other side receives Mexican peso, you have no clue you're using Bitcoin. And it's like magical TCP/IP for money between payment systems in the world." Bitcoin infrastructure works. Like most widely adopted technologies, the average person has no idea what's going on under the hood. That is the future that takes Bitcoin global. And it's being built in real-time.

Bitcoin is money AND digital gold. The two are not mutually exclusive. For Michael Saylor - it's the purest form of digital credit. For David Marcus - it's the payment rails of the future. "No one cares what humans think about how people need to Bitcoin because it's an unopinionated, code-based money platform." The Lightspark founder is forging ahead with building Bitcoin-based payment rails, while Saylor and Strategy are doubling down on Bitcoin-backed financial products. "I'm really grateful that Michael is really focused on the store of value use case, and he can do that, and I can be the one focused on bringing utility to Bitcoin. Both things will actually help one another to make Bitcoin more relevant to many more people and that's the beauty of building on an open network," Marcus told Robert Baggs and me on our latest Chain Reaction show. Marcus has been keenly focused on abstracting complexity away from payments using Bitcoin payments infrastructure with the launch of Lightspark Grid. "It's like Bitcoin as a network being used to move all kinds of other money, whether it's stablecoin or fiat at the edges, and you don't even understand that you're using Bitcoin. For instance, if you're a SoFi client in the US, and you want to send money to Europe or India, Brazil or Mexico, you send dollars and the other person on the other side receives Mexican peso, you have no clue you're using Bitcoin. And it's like magical TCP/IP for money between payment systems in the world." Bitcoin infrastructure works. Like most widely adopted technologies, the average person has no idea what's going on under the hood. That is the future that takes Bitcoin global. And it's being built in real-time.

Gareth Jenkinson

19,172 次观看 • 6 个月前

This is the former President of PayPal talking about using #Bitcoin to make the $7.5 Trillion DAILY Foreign Exchange Market a much more efficient & profitable place. He is talking about building what Strike is building and compared the current monetary rails to a fax machine. I also completely agree with him that #Bitcoin will not be the currency people use to buy goods and services, however, it is a great settlement layer where you can have USD effectively on #Bitcoin rails and do immediate settlements. This is the best explanation of a corporate application of #Bitcoin being used as an invisible service layer that I've heard. If you think the corporates "don't get it" and only Twitter Anon's can "get it" - you're a moron. These people are smart and can catch up quickly with manpower. To put it into perspective, if 25% of the Daily Foreign Exchange market was on #Bitcoin rails it means $1.875 Trillion of daily consistent demand for #Bitcoin. That would equate to a $225 Trillion #Bitcoin Market Cap - assuming BofA's Bull Market Multiple is right. This means - just 25% of this market alone coming onto the #Bitcoin Rails would add $10.5m onto the price of #Bitcoin. Thanks for finding the video!

This is the former President of PayPal talking about using #Bitcoin to make the $7.5 Trillion DAILY Foreign Exchange Market a much more efficient & profitable place. He is talking about building what Strike is building and compared the current monetary rails to a fax machine. I also completely agree with him that #Bitcoin will not be the currency people use to buy goods and services, however, it is a great settlement layer where you can have USD effectively on #Bitcoin rails and do immediate settlements. This is the best explanation of a corporate application of #Bitcoin being used as an invisible service layer that I've heard. If you think the corporates "don't get it" and only Twitter Anon's can "get it" - you're a moron. These people are smart and can catch up quickly with manpower. To put it into perspective, if 25% of the Daily Foreign Exchange market was on #Bitcoin rails it means $1.875 Trillion of daily consistent demand for #Bitcoin. That would equate to a $225 Trillion #Bitcoin Market Cap - assuming BofA's Bull Market Multiple is right. This means - just 25% of this market alone coming onto the #Bitcoin Rails would add $10.5m onto the price of #Bitcoin. Thanks for finding the video!

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229,736 次观看 • 2 年前

I believe most people trading alts to get more #bitcoin aren’t gaining as much as they think they are. In general, I think traders would do better if they allocated their energy into producing a good or service, and then swept their surplus into #bitcoin If you’re capable of successfully trading you are quite intelligent. Is it possible you would be more deeply satisfied if that energy went into creating something more valuable? Could this make you feel more fulfilled and abundant? Could this cause you to manifest more money? To then stack more sats? To me this formula is the way to get the absolute most satisfaction and the most money out of life.

I believe most people trading alts to get more #bitcoin aren’t gaining as much as they think they are. In general, I think traders would do better if they allocated their energy into producing a good or service, and then swept their surplus into #bitcoin If you’re capable of successfully trading you are quite intelligent. Is it possible you would be more deeply satisfied if that energy went into creating something more valuable? Could this make you feel more fulfilled and abundant? Could this cause you to manifest more money? To then stack more sats? To me this formula is the way to get the absolute most satisfaction and the most money out of life.

Eric V Stacks

22,231 次观看 • 2 年前

Etherealize CEO Vivek Raman: The Repricing of ETH as Money Could Start Pretty Soon "ETH is like BTC++ in that it's productive, it has yield -- which financial people love -- but also it's a store of value and used as collateral. It's basically used as money across the Ethereum economy." "It is an asymmetric bet that Ethereum will reprice from being valued like a technology company to becoming money. There is a potential 100x as that starts to happen." "It'd be wishful thinking to suggest an immediate 100x, but the repricing could start pretty soon. People now know what Bitcoin is. People obviously know what gold is. There is a need for a digital asset store of value or multiple of them. ETH is emerging more and more as that second pristine store of value asset, and we think it will become the primary one." "BlackRock just launched their staking ETF, so they're calling ETH a productive asset that's earning yield. Harvard just rotated some of their Bitcoin holdings into ETH. You're seeing the institutional allocations diversify, so it's starting now, and [Productive Money] is the thesis for it to really catch hold." Read the full report and watch the full @MilkRoad interview with Vivek Raman in the links below.

Etherealize CEO Vivek Raman: The Repricing of ETH as Money Could Start Pretty Soon "ETH is like BTC++ in that it's productive, it has yield -- which financial people love -- but also it's a store of value and used as collateral. It's basically used as money across the Ethereum economy." "It is an asymmetric bet that Ethereum will reprice from being valued like a technology company to becoming money. There is a potential 100x as that starts to happen." "It'd be wishful thinking to suggest an immediate 100x, but the repricing could start pretty soon. People now know what Bitcoin is. People obviously know what gold is. There is a need for a digital asset store of value or multiple of them. ETH is emerging more and more as that second pristine store of value asset, and we think it will become the primary one." "BlackRock just launched their staking ETF, so they're calling ETH a productive asset that's earning yield. Harvard just rotated some of their Bitcoin holdings into ETH. You're seeing the institutional allocations diversify, so it's starting now, and [Productive Money] is the thesis for it to really catch hold." Read the full report and watch the full @MilkRoad interview with Vivek Raman in the links below.

Etherealize

155,701 次观看 • 3 个月前

Etherealize CEO Vivek Raman on the case for ETH as money "When we look at ETH the asset, we should be comparing it to the TAM of money and not a software stock that's trading at a multiple of earnings. Ethereum is not a technology stock or a technology company -- it is the infrastructure platform where the world's assets are being digitized." "What is ETH? ETH is the money that's used across the entire Ethereum ecosystem and outside of the Ethereum ecosystem as a reserve asset." "BlackRock's second biggest digital asset ETF after Bitcoin is ETH. They just launched a staked ETH ETF -- that's for institutions to get exposure to this asset as a money and a store of value. You're seeing players like Tom Lee, Joe Lubin, and Joe Chalom hold ETH as an institutional treasury asset. They're not playing for a growth/earnings, company-style return. They're playing for a repricing of when ETH gets rated as a monetary asset." "What is the TAM of money? I would almost say it's conservative just saying it's gold and bitcoin. You also have the M2 of the US dollar. High end real estate is also viewed as a store of value." "But let's take the most tangible ones where ETH has superior properties -- gold and bitcoin -- and we think ETH should start to eat away at that monetary premium and capture some of that itself." Source: Roxom TV Read our full Productive Money report below 👇

Etherealize CEO Vivek Raman on the case for ETH as money "When we look at ETH the asset, we should be comparing it to the TAM of money and not a software stock that's trading at a multiple of earnings. Ethereum is not a technology stock or a technology company -- it is the infrastructure platform where the world's assets are being digitized." "What is ETH? ETH is the money that's used across the entire Ethereum ecosystem and outside of the Ethereum ecosystem as a reserve asset." "BlackRock's second biggest digital asset ETF after Bitcoin is ETH. They just launched a staked ETH ETF -- that's for institutions to get exposure to this asset as a money and a store of value. You're seeing players like Tom Lee, Joe Lubin, and Joe Chalom hold ETH as an institutional treasury asset. They're not playing for a growth/earnings, company-style return. They're playing for a repricing of when ETH gets rated as a monetary asset." "What is the TAM of money? I would almost say it's conservative just saying it's gold and bitcoin. You also have the M2 of the US dollar. High end real estate is also viewed as a store of value." "But let's take the most tangible ones where ETH has superior properties -- gold and bitcoin -- and we think ETH should start to eat away at that monetary premium and capture some of that itself." Source: Roxom TV Read our full Productive Money report below 👇

Etherealize

90,866 次观看 • 3 个月前

Double Down #0: Tristan Dickinson lays out Bitcoin's Collateral Thesis 🟧 Every reserve asset eventually becomes collateral. Gold did it thousands of years ago. #Bitcoin is next, and it's better built for the job: liquid, scarce, verifiable, self-custodial, available 24/7. The blocker was never the asset. It was the infrastructure. Borrowing against your $BTC meant trusting a lender (Celsius, FTX) or a bridge. The real unlock: collateral with no wrappers, no bridges, no one to trust but code. That's what Tristan is building at Babylon. + El Salvador, why Saylor finally sold and price calls from $1M to $13M Timestamps 0:00 Introduction & episode highlights 2:56 What "institutional Bitcoin" really means 7:35 From airlines to banking: Tristan's path to Bitcoin 14:00 The credit card story that broke his faith in banks 18:45 Discovering the Bitcoin whitepaper 22:00 Did Bitcoin fail as "peer-to-peer cash"? (El Salvador) 26:26 Bitcoin as digital gold and the ultimate collateral asset 33:52 Babylon's trustless Bitcoin vaults explained 37:10 Would Satoshi be proud or disappointed? 40:15 ETFs, the recent selloff & why Saylor and Cuban sold 47:45 The wildest Bitcoin price predictions ($1M to $13M) 53:00 Why fiat fails, who is Satoshi & what's next Double Down is presented by Babylon Labs. Tristan Dickinson Babylon

Double Down #0: Tristan Dickinson lays out Bitcoin's Collateral Thesis 🟧 Every reserve asset eventually becomes collateral. Gold did it thousands of years ago. #Bitcoin is next, and it's better built for the job: liquid, scarce, verifiable, self-custodial, available 24/7. The blocker was never the asset. It was the infrastructure. Borrowing against your $BTC meant trusting a lender (Celsius, FTX) or a bridge. The real unlock: collateral with no wrappers, no bridges, no one to trust but code. That's what Tristan is building at Babylon. + El Salvador, why Saylor finally sold and price calls from $1M to $13M Timestamps 0:00 Introduction & episode highlights 2:56 What "institutional Bitcoin" really means 7:35 From airlines to banking: Tristan's path to Bitcoin 14:00 The credit card story that broke his faith in banks 18:45 Discovering the Bitcoin whitepaper 22:00 Did Bitcoin fail as "peer-to-peer cash"? (El Salvador) 26:26 Bitcoin as digital gold and the ultimate collateral asset 33:52 Babylon's trustless Bitcoin vaults explained 37:10 Would Satoshi be proud or disappointed? 40:15 ETFs, the recent selloff & why Saylor and Cuban sold 47:45 The wildest Bitcoin price predictions ($1M to $13M) 53:00 Why fiat fails, who is Satoshi & what's next Double Down is presented by Babylon Labs. Tristan Dickinson Babylon

Cito

12,449 次观看 • 1 个月前

"That is way more traceable than cash, it makes absolutely no sense" Mert on the Bitcoin privacy myth that TV shows keep pushing "The concept of privacy is ironically implicitly assumed when you're talking about Bitcoin to anybody outside of the industry. If you ever watch a TV show like The Blacklist, the context in which Bitcoin comes around is generally some criminal asking another person for ransom" "Every time I watch something like that I'm like, what are you doing? That is way more traceable than cash, it makes absolutely no sense. It's this deep belief where you think, oh it's cryptographic money, obviously it must be private" "It's not even really understood that no, it's actually traceable. Digital gold, as the official Bitcoin account, which I'm not even sure who owns that on Twitter, literally says in their bio"

"That is way more traceable than cash, it makes absolutely no sense" Mert on the Bitcoin privacy myth that TV shows keep pushing "The concept of privacy is ironically implicitly assumed when you're talking about Bitcoin to anybody outside of the industry. If you ever watch a TV show like The Blacklist, the context in which Bitcoin comes around is generally some criminal asking another person for ransom" "Every time I watch something like that I'm like, what are you doing? That is way more traceable than cash, it makes absolutely no sense. It's this deep belief where you think, oh it's cryptographic money, obviously it must be private" "It's not even really understood that no, it's actually traceable. Digital gold, as the official Bitcoin account, which I'm not even sure who owns that on Twitter, literally says in their bio"

Laura Shin

11,837 次观看 • 7 天前

$🚨BREAKING: Ripple CTO Says “Bitcoin Can’t Win Alone — XRP Was Built to Replace the Global Finance in Next Couple of Years" 💥 David 'JoelKatz' Schwartz, Ripple’s CTO, sat down with Eleanor Terrett and Matt Hougan, and honestly… this might be one of the most important XRP interviews of the year. 💥 “There is no universe where Bitcoin is the only winner.” David said something Bitcoin maxis absolutely hate to hear: “It’s inconceivable there’s a world with only one successful blockchain… the entire space succeeds or it doesn’t.” Bitcoin can’t carry the entire financial system. The world WILL need multiple networks — and $XRP is one of them. He said early Bitcoin tribalism actually slowed down progress — and now institutions finally understand that $XRP isn’t a threat to Bitcoin… it’s the missing piece Bitcoin can’t provide. ⚡ $XRP vs. Bitcoin, Ethereum & Solana — “XRP was built differently.” David 'JoelKatz' Schwartz explained why it outclasses $BTC, $ETH, and $SOL at the job it was designed for: “XRP is the first blockchain not cloned from Bitcoin… it doesn’t use proof-of-work… it had issued assets before anyone… it has a native decentralized exchange.” “The XRP Ledger is a curated set of financial primitives.” 🔗 “Whatever Ripple builds — $XRP profits from it. Always.” “XRP is the only asset everyone can hold… the only asset that pays fees… the only asset without a counterparty… the bridge asset the network automatically routes trades through.” David explained: “You might not see it as a user, but $XRP routes trades behind the scenes.” Every new liquidity pool, every new stablecoin, every new RWA on XRP Ledger increases XRP’s usage without anyone realizing they’re using it. 🌍 “XRP will help replace huge parts of traditional finance in the next few years.” “Blockchain will replace significant fractions of traditional finance for ordinary people.” •banks → become blockchain apps •lending → becomes on-chain •investments → become tokenized •global money movement → becomes instant •and XRP sits at the center as the neutral, jurisdiction-free settlement asset$

🚨BREAKING: Ripple CTO Says “Bitcoin Can’t Win Alone — XRP Was Built to Replace the Global Finance in Next Couple of Years" 💥 David 'JoelKatz' Schwartz, Ripple’s CTO, sat down with Eleanor Terrett and Matt Hougan, and honestly… this might be one of the most important XRP interviews of the year. 💥 “There is no universe where Bitcoin is the only winner.” David said something Bitcoin maxis absolutely hate to hear: “It’s inconceivable there’s a world with only one successful blockchain… the entire space succeeds or it doesn’t.” Bitcoin can’t carry the entire financial system. The world WILL need multiple networks — and $XRP is one of them. He said early Bitcoin tribalism actually slowed down progress — and now institutions finally understand that $XRP isn’t a threat to Bitcoin… it’s the missing piece Bitcoin can’t provide. ⚡ $XRP vs. Bitcoin, Ethereum & Solana — “XRP was built differently.” David 'JoelKatz' Schwartz explained why it outclasses $BTC, $ETH, and $SOL at the job it was designed for: “XRP is the first blockchain not cloned from Bitcoin… it doesn’t use proof-of-work… it had issued assets before anyone… it has a native decentralized exchange.” “The XRP Ledger is a curated set of financial primitives.” 🔗 “Whatever Ripple builds — $XRP profits from it. Always.” “XRP is the only asset everyone can hold… the only asset that pays fees… the only asset without a counterparty… the bridge asset the network automatically routes trades through.” David explained: “You might not see it as a user, but $XRP routes trades behind the scenes.” Every new liquidity pool, every new stablecoin, every new RWA on XRP Ledger increases XRP’s usage without anyone realizing they’re using it. 🌍 “XRP will help replace huge parts of traditional finance in the next few years.” “Blockchain will replace significant fractions of traditional finance for ordinary people.” •banks → become blockchain apps •lending → becomes on-chain •investments → become tokenized •global money movement → becomes instant •and XRP sits at the center as the neutral, jurisdiction-free settlement asset

Diana

127,097 次观看 • 8 个月前

THE BANK LOBBY IS TERRIFIED. 🚨 And now everyone knows why. This was never about protecting consumers. It's a turf war. Stablecoins with yield means money leaving banks. That's what they're actually fighting. Not crypto. Their own survival. Banks spent decades paying you 0.01% on savings. Now stablecoins offer real yield. And suddenly banks care about "consumer protection." The audacity. Trump exposing them. Barclays CEO saying adopt it. Senate pushing the CLARITY Act. Banks lobbying harder than ever. The more desperate they fight… The more obvious it becomes what's at stake. The biggest transfer of financial power in history is happening right now. From banks to blockchain. From middlemen to code. From their control to yours. And all they can do is lobby against it. They already lost.

THE BANK LOBBY IS TERRIFIED. 🚨 And now everyone knows why. This was never about protecting consumers. It's a turf war. Stablecoins with yield means money leaving banks. That's what they're actually fighting. Not crypto. Their own survival. Banks spent decades paying you 0.01% on savings. Now stablecoins offer real yield. And suddenly banks care about "consumer protection." The audacity. Trump exposing them. Barclays CEO saying adopt it. Senate pushing the CLARITY Act. Banks lobbying harder than ever. The more desperate they fight… The more obvious it becomes what's at stake. The biggest transfer of financial power in history is happening right now. From banks to blockchain. From middlemen to code. From their control to yours. And all they can do is lobby against it. They already lost.

Crypto Tice

13,098 次观看 • 4 个月前

📣📣THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN🚨 This would impact everyone except the 1% of the 1%. The Great Taking isn't just a theory it's the master plan. David Rogers Webb has been warning about it for sometime and actively trying to get it changed. Their only concern is protecting the system not the people. We have seen this over and over with Bailouts, loopholes and exemptions. In fact we saw it today with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission pushing back disclosure rules for Hedge Funds and their market manipulation Shorting. "The whole structure wouldn't work right to protect the DTC" Protecting the DTCC the system. Be prepared. Thanks Taylor Kenney for another great video

📣📣THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN🚨 This would impact everyone except the 1% of the 1%. The Great Taking isn't just a theory it's the master plan. David Rogers Webb has been warning about it for sometime and actively trying to get it changed. Their only concern is protecting the system not the people. We have seen this over and over with Bailouts, loopholes and exemptions. In fact we saw it today with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission pushing back disclosure rules for Hedge Funds and their market manipulation Shorting. "The whole structure wouldn't work right to protect the DTC" Protecting the DTCC the system. Be prepared. Thanks Taylor Kenney for another great video

Stephanie 🇬🇧🇺🇸🦍

36,976 次观看 • 8 个月前