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Murs… whew. Ghostwriting…

117,364 次观看 • 1 年前 •via X (Twitter)

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HeWhoKnocks 的头像
HeWhoKnocks1 年前

Damn..Murs just made my stfu list..sad times

IG: Mickey.Factz 的头像
IG: Mickey.Factz1 年前

💀

Nathaniel 的头像
Nathaniel1 年前

@bighomiegreengo To be honest MURS really is helping out an artist he mentored on his retirement album. But not only did he give him credit on paper. He also gave them credit on his social media platform. This isn’t ghost writing in my opinion.

HeWhoKnocks 的头像
HeWhoKnocks1 年前

@MickeyFactz Ghost as in hidden..not known about..no…still..having a “whats wrong with not writing your own raps” sentiment be what hes championing is stfu worthy for me. It’s like saying “what’s wrong with steroids in sports their performance enhancers,you still have to perform”

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Isaiah9six1 年前

For a hit single, I can see getting help to get that commercial appeal. But not flexing punches and metaphors like you wrote them. Lil Wayne’s “lollipop” and “How to Love” are good examples. B.O.P “Airplanes” as well.

IG: Mickey.Factz 的头像
IG: Mickey.Factz1 年前

Boom.

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hood will hunting1 年前

As long as Murs isn’t dissing anyone else or walking around claiming to be the best rapper ever, I don’t have a problem with it. Get it how you live.

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IG: Mickey.Factz1 年前

3 months ago 💀

hood will hunting 的头像
hood will hunting1 年前

Word, his aforementioned take on ghostwriting disqualifies him, IMO.

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Tay Supreme1 年前

It’s frowned upon in HipHop because rap isn’t all about being great performer like a singing it’s all about being a great emcee a lyricist, and that’s lies on your pen and your imagination

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Black Boomhauer1 年前

Rap should be drawn from your experience and perspective even if you lying it should still be from how you view things

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Nino1 年前

Rap is more like classical composers & painters. If Basquiat wasn’t actually drawing or Mozart wasn’t actually composing we’d look at them different. The MC is in this realm more so than a guitarist or Michael Jackson type. Your individual form of expression in Hip Hop is what heightens your authenticity & credibility. I give him a pass because he may not have his hand on the pulse as he once did but the question I would have as an MC after he didn’t like his 2nd verse is “why didn’t you write another one” … tapping out and sending it to another rapper to get his take seems like something that was in the cards for him going into the record. That’s fine but he shouldn’t act like that’s the only solution. Some MC’s take weeks or months to come up with a way to end a particular song. It’s happened to many of the greats. That to me is the separation in this convo. I don’t want to hear because YOU felt you had to do something it should be viewed as okay because some of your favorite songs in other genres have other writers as well. I love your response Mickey.

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😎🏆🗽1 年前

Shit is corny ...if Murs didnt like his verse give the other guy a chance to spit his verse DONT take his bars from him

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the influence1 年前

Nobody really criticizes it. Its more like you just not a true mc if you use a ghostwriter point blank. Can we still enjoy your music? Of course. Nobody says omg im not listening to that song cuz it was ghostwritten. Nobody says that

Amoré King 的头像
Amoré King1 年前

I hate everything about this. I like Murs. But I 100% hate everything about this. 😂 we are not about to normalize this and act like this is just a cool evolution of hip-hop. It’s trash.

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allYourBaseNfT1 年前

It’s ok if people want to use writers. BUT I think in hip hop that takes you out the conversation for best. This is rap, it’s not singing. There’s a huge difference between Whitney’s I Will Always Love You and Dolly Parton’s. In rap it’s more or less the same with the ghostwriter’s. Basically if a person wants to have writers that’s ok. They just need to let it be known and don’t really compare themselves with people who are solo dolo’n it.

Tyrone Sixty4 的头像
Tyrone Sixty41 年前

Yeah but don’t say your the greatest. Your are disqualified.

Bochka 的头像
Bochka1 年前

Still Dre was written by Jay-Z every single person bumps their head and most people want to crip walk when it comes on. Get over the ghostwriter syndrome.

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IG: Mickey.Factz1 年前

Dre never said he was the best rapper from LA

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Jay 😎1 年前

I wish a more successful rapper (or at least on MURS’ level) reposted this, all this tweet will attract or haters, dudes with subpar following/follower ratios, and bots. I need a nigga like Ab-Soul or Del the Funkee Homosapien to spark this debate

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GNL Biggs1 年前

Difference to ME is that in hip-hop wordplay and the lyrics themselves do a big part in what we consider a “skilled” emcee, like in singing it’s more about the notes you can hit and being in key in hip hop the lyrics themselves, “bars” as we call it stamp you so if they aren’t yours well… 🤷🏾‍♂️ anyway can’t wait to see you at the class reunion

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Brennus.1 年前

“Authenticity” dawg most of these rappers are pathological liars 😂 they don’t own what they say they own, they don’t have the money that say they do, and they didn’t do the crimes they say they did 😂

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Rene G.1 年前

Does how long you been rapping come to play? We know murs wrote his older material. And he’s created his credibility at this point. So now on the back half of his career is it bad he wants to have songs ghostwritten. Can that come into play?

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IG: Mickey.Factz1 年前

For me personally… only if it was like a big soundtrack song or a hit record. Outside of that, nah man

Rene G. 的头像
Rene G.1 年前

I feel that then .. Murs has stapled his credentials in the hip hop game, I just hope this isn’t a consistent thing and more like 1 or 2 verses here and there.

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Drew 💎1 年前

Rap is rap is rap…… if you say you’re a rapper or that you are a great rapper, then your pen better show it. If somebody is writing your raps, then you are an entertainer. There’s no way around that. It’s always been competition. That’s part of what makes you nice.

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TRPE CEO1 年前

The “Authenticity” tag was a trick bag put on hip hop by the powers in control to keep it limited to a subgenre. “You not a real mc if (insert real nigga rhetoric here)” But every other genre openly celebrates collaboration. This is why there’s only a handful of rap songs to win ROTY or SOTY at the Grammys bc being pigeonholed to one singular writer usually limits broad appeal bc its only coming from one POV. And the biggest trick of it all is that some of the best & most impactful rap songs of all time were ghostwritten or cowritten. Rappers Delight, Still DRE, All of Eazy E music, Biz Markie debut album… etc etc. bc stars get remembered not writers. Also why Kanye’s discography is better than 99.9999% of rappers bc he embraced collaboration to prioritize making the best & biggest records not staying married to a false real nigga equation.

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🙏🏾RIP Pops🙏🏾1 年前

This is disappointing tbh

DFS Doc 的头像
DFS Doc1 年前

I hear you, but is it Truly built on authenticity when so many 🧢 in their raps?

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OXYG3N1 年前

More artist need to be honest like this lmao

Da Wolverine 的头像
Da Wolverine1 年前

Facts you clearly defined everything needed to be said

DALE 的头像
DALE1 年前

Singers can have ghostwriter because singing is a skill, if you need a ghostwriter as a mc/rapper you not upper echelon and you just reciting somebody else’s thoughts

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Kuldoxy1 年前

We dont have a problem with it if u dont brag about being the best lyricist. Unlike other genres, rap is very competitive.

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Metanoia1 年前

Many writers have entire teams during their writing process. I think as long as credit is given, all is fair if it produces better works. With that being said writing your own dope shit is 🔥 Also, Murs is your favorite rapper’s favorite rapper.

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Black History 3651 年前

Ghostwriting, & biting are illegal in the culture of Hip Hop. Corporate rap uses ghostwriting & biting because capitalism is only concerned with profits…not culture, so it depends on who you are & what you’re representing. Is Hip Hop your culture or are you a corporate rapper?

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KT The Great1 年前

Bro said “vocalists” 💀

Chuck D 的头像
Chuck D1 年前

Songwriting is indeed a craft. Every writer might not have a standout voice to shake the world, every vocalist may not have the ability to assemble the words that last forever.

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Thelonious_Blakk1 年前

That's why hip-hop is special, because we don't accept that BS. If you're not writing your own shit it's no real. Leave that for the other genres but it's a NO in hip-hop, and it always has been. Have some done it? Sure, but it's always a 🤔

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Jesus1 年前

1 it’s competitive, 2 it’s not really a bad thing unless you tryna claim being an MC or the best Mc other then that it’s valid. Nobody never said yo dr dre trash he don’t write his rhymes lmaoo like nah

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I’m Brian Knockin1 年前

just wanna point one thing out, if you are openly working with writers, it isn't ghost writing! Ghost writing is when you are taking the credit, and it's another rapper writing it!

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kingbaakirofficial1 年前

I’m only concerned with the bars. Not to beat a dead horse, but I never cared for Drake having ghostwriters because he’s Drake. I can respect him as a lyricist. Now if I found out Jadakiss had someone writing the grimiest lyrics from him, I’d be devastated (no disrespect to Kiss).

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Vfrank102’1 年前

Writing (getting help and crediting the writer) is cool, though not preferred. GHOST writing (getting help & passing the rhymes off as your own) is not.

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Nig Gel1 年前

Murs said he credited the guy so he didn’t even use a ghostwriter lol