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My discussion with Michael Saylor on the Red Wave's impact on Bitcoin and broader crypto, America’s Manifest Destiny in cyberspace through a U.S. Bitcoin Reserve, the role of digital assets like stablecoins & tokens, MicroStrategy’s success as a Bitcoin treasury company and Bitcoin as digital capital versus digital currency....

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@saylor Great discussion. Michael is always sharing gems. Learning a lot about Bitcoin, the community and how to build with Bitcoin as a treasury. Thank you Natalie

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@CynthiaMLummis @RobertKennedyJr @VivekGRamaswamy @TulsiGabbard @DonaldJTrumpJr @EricTrump I hope you are able to give this a listen and share. The future is bright for America with Bitcoin 🇺🇸

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@saylor Pretty clear an SBR is gonna happen

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@saylor The #StrategicBitcoinReserve is the movement we all deserve. The financial freedom, mass adoption and equality we were promised all these years is happening. $SBR on SOL is proud to champion this effort and spread awareness. This is our moment. Grab it by the $BTC @sbronsol

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@saylor You must get so amped when are about to hit post on a new Saylor interview.

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@saylor Great interview! Good job, Nat and Michael!

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@saylor The red wave is here to stay.

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@saylor Try and orange pill wife and daughter by playing podcasts in living room. Had this one playing and my wife says "he looks like a nice guy" quickly followed by "oh, I like her shoes" lol.

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Matt Cole

19,386 Aufrufe • vor 3 Monaten

🎙️The Virtuous Network You're The Voice - Ep. 32 with Michael Saylor You’re The Voice | Podcast by Efrat Fenigson My guest today is Michael Saylor, an American entrepreneur, the executive chairman and co-founder of Strategy, a public software and services company that recently announced it is also a #Bitcoin development company. MicroStrategy is undoubtedly the pioneer in holding the company’s reserves in bitcoin. Till recently, Saylor was MicroStrategy's CEO for 33 years. He’s considered to be one of Bitcoin’s biggest advocates, helping many people on their journey into Bitcoin. This episode revolves around the complexities of power, technology, and the role of Bitcoin in today’s world. We discussed the trend of centralizing power in the hands of a few, the benefits and drawbacks of big tech systems, the role of governments, and the need for decentralization. Michael explored the nature of Bitcoin as a digital asset or property, highlighting its global appeal and advantages over physical property. He touched on the role of ETFs, on MicroStrategy’s Bitcoin standard strategy, and concluded with the observation that the road to bitcoin adoption is paved with love and patience. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! 00:00 - Coming Up... 01:35 - Introduction of Michael Saylor 02:45 - Centralization of Power - The Good & The Bad 09:20 - Ad Break (Trezor, Bitcoin Nashville) 10:35 - The "Twitter-cane" 21:10 - Bitcoin: A Digital Asset & Property. Or Currency? 34:00 - ETFs Role in the Game of Bitcoin 42:25 - MicroStrategy's Capital-Raising for Bitcoin 48:15 - Saylor Approached by Other CEOs? 50:35 - Spreading Bitcoin with Love >>
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🎙️The Virtuous Network You're The Voice - Ep. 32 with Michael Saylor You’re The Voice | Podcast by Efrat Fenigson My guest today is Michael Saylor, an American entrepreneur, the executive chairman and co-founder of Strategy, a public software and services company that recently announced it is also a #Bitcoin development company. MicroStrategy is undoubtedly the pioneer in holding the company’s reserves in bitcoin. Till recently, Saylor was MicroStrategy's CEO for 33 years. He’s considered to be one of Bitcoin’s biggest advocates, helping many people on their journey into Bitcoin. This episode revolves around the complexities of power, technology, and the role of Bitcoin in today’s world. We discussed the trend of centralizing power in the hands of a few, the benefits and drawbacks of big tech systems, the role of governments, and the need for decentralization. Michael explored the nature of Bitcoin as a digital asset or property, highlighting its global appeal and advantages over physical property. He touched on the role of ETFs, on MicroStrategy’s Bitcoin standard strategy, and concluded with the observation that the road to bitcoin adoption is paved with love and patience. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! 00:00 - Coming Up... 01:35 - Introduction of Michael Saylor 02:45 - Centralization of Power - The Good & The Bad 09:20 - Ad Break (Trezor, Bitcoin Nashville) 10:35 - The "Twitter-cane" 21:10 - Bitcoin: A Digital Asset & Property. Or Currency? 34:00 - ETFs Role in the Game of Bitcoin 42:25 - MicroStrategy's Capital-Raising for Bitcoin 48:15 - Saylor Approached by Other CEOs? 50:35 - Spreading Bitcoin with Love >>

Efrat Fenigson

430,282 Aufrufe • vor 2 Jahren

My new interview with Mark Moss on the “reverse crash” and what it means for investors, Q4 price dynamics and how to retire off Bitcoin in 5 years. Timecodes: 00:00 Does Q4 favor Bitcoin? 1:58 JPMorgan’s “debasement trade” 4:18 Gemini Bitcoin Credit Card | Bitwise | Bitdeer (BTDR) 6:02 Melt-up vs. crash 10:50 "Fiat Maxis” 13:46 Gold settlement, stablecoins, U.S. strategy 21:11 Speed Wallet | Bitkey | The Bitcoin Way | Genius Academy 23:00 Monetary reset, BRICS leverage & U.S. debt math 28:48 Two economies: new tools, new skills 34:51 “Retire Off of Bitcoin” 37:42 Bitcoin price prediction 41:59 Compounding behavior (business, content, life) 43:38 Corporate treasuries
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My new interview with Mark Moss on the “reverse crash” and what it means for investors, Q4 price dynamics and how to retire off Bitcoin in 5 years. Timecodes: 00:00 Does Q4 favor Bitcoin? 1:58 JPMorgan’s “debasement trade” 4:18 Gemini Bitcoin Credit Card | Bitwise | Bitdeer (BTDR) 6:02 Melt-up vs. crash 10:50 "Fiat Maxis” 13:46 Gold settlement, stablecoins, U.S. strategy 21:11 Speed Wallet | Bitkey | The Bitcoin Way | Genius Academy 23:00 Monetary reset, BRICS leverage & U.S. debt math 28:48 Two economies: new tools, new skills 34:51 “Retire Off of Bitcoin” 37:42 Bitcoin price prediction 41:59 Compounding behavior (business, content, life) 43:38 Corporate treasuries

Natalie Brunell ⚡️

348,029 Aufrufe • vor 11 Monaten

Bitcoin Capitalism — my keynote from BTC Prague 2026. Digital Capital is the foundation for Digital Credit, Digital Money, Digital Yield, Digital Equity, and a universe of Bitcoin-backed products and services. Timestamps: 01:37 - The Four Bitcoin Ideologies and the case for Bitcoin Capitalism 03:29 - Bitcoin as Digital Capital: thousand-year capital with a half-life of infinity 06:12 - Bitcoin network snapshot and ~68% dominance 07:41 - What is money? The Austrian view, the conventional investor view, and “Bitcoin is money, everything else is credit” 09:21 - Digital Money and Digital Credit: bitcoin-backed products for fiat-facing investors 11:28 - Digital Credit: an ~$11–12B asset class that was zero 12 months ago 14:54 - Bitcoin’s opportunity: $1T of bitcoin vs. $1,000T of global capital 15:43 - The 10-dimensional model for reaching stranded capital 16:44 - 1) Asset types: commodities, equities, credit, derivatives, real estate, money, and tokens 18:07 - 2) Capital functions: store of value, appreciation, income, collateral, and payments 19:29 - 3) Custody: self-custody, banks, custodians, broker-dealers, prime brokers, and exchanges 20:34 - 4) Jurisdictions: 664,000 legal and regulatory environments for capital 22:03 - 5) Distribution networks: banks, exchanges, payment networks, and $156T controlled by wealth advisors 23:13 - 6) Account forms: retirement accounts, brokerage accounts, insurance policies, treasuries, and trusts 24:51 - 7) Risk: market, currency, duration, regulatory, credit, technical, security, theft, and counterparty risk 26:03 - 8) Liquidity: transforming $350T of illiquid capital with liquid digital assets 28:02 - 9) Investors: banks control ~$200T and need compliant bitcoin-backed products 30:09 - 10) Product characteristics: fixed rate, floating rate, leverage, callability, fees, and structure 30:45 - The 10x10 matrix for channeling global capital into Bitcoin 31:19 - How $10–20T of capital could expand Bitcoin into a $100T network, moving from $70K to $700K to $7M per bitcoin 32:10 - Bitcoin Capitalism as a Darwinian market: winners, challengers, failures, and 1,400 companies tracked by Strategy 34:53 - Existing bitcoin-backed products: Trezor, Unchained, Fidelity Investments, FOLD BITCOIN, Tando, Relai 🇨🇭, Cash App, Hodl Hodl, AnchorWatch, meanwhile | Bitcoin Life Insurance, $IBIT, $STRC, and $MSTR 40:03 - Digital Capital, Digital Credit, Digital Money, and Digital Yield competing with traditional capital markets 41:03 - Digital Money and Digital Yield: better stablecoins and higher-yield bitcoin-backed products 47:27 - 3 ways to participate: savers, investors, and innovators 49:19 - The aluminum airplane analogy: people buy the product, not the commodity underneath 52:29 - Build a ₿ridge to connect $BTC to the global capital markets 53:42 - 10,000 products, 10,000 needs, and 100,000 corporate efforts to change the world
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Bitcoin Capitalism — my keynote from BTC Prague 2026. Digital Capital is the foundation for Digital Credit, Digital Money, Digital Yield, Digital Equity, and a universe of Bitcoin-backed products and services. Timestamps: 01:37 - The Four Bitcoin Ideologies and the case for Bitcoin Capitalism 03:29 - Bitcoin as Digital Capital: thousand-year capital with a half-life of infinity 06:12 - Bitcoin network snapshot and ~68% dominance 07:41 - What is money? The Austrian view, the conventional investor view, and “Bitcoin is money, everything else is credit” 09:21 - Digital Money and Digital Credit: bitcoin-backed products for fiat-facing investors 11:28 - Digital Credit: an ~$11–12B asset class that was zero 12 months ago 14:54 - Bitcoin’s opportunity: $1T of bitcoin vs. $1,000T of global capital 15:43 - The 10-dimensional model for reaching stranded capital 16:44 - 1) Asset types: commodities, equities, credit, derivatives, real estate, money, and tokens 18:07 - 2) Capital functions: store of value, appreciation, income, collateral, and payments 19:29 - 3) Custody: self-custody, banks, custodians, broker-dealers, prime brokers, and exchanges 20:34 - 4) Jurisdictions: 664,000 legal and regulatory environments for capital 22:03 - 5) Distribution networks: banks, exchanges, payment networks, and $156T controlled by wealth advisors 23:13 - 6) Account forms: retirement accounts, brokerage accounts, insurance policies, treasuries, and trusts 24:51 - 7) Risk: market, currency, duration, regulatory, credit, technical, security, theft, and counterparty risk 26:03 - 8) Liquidity: transforming $350T of illiquid capital with liquid digital assets 28:02 - 9) Investors: banks control ~$200T and need compliant bitcoin-backed products 30:09 - 10) Product characteristics: fixed rate, floating rate, leverage, callability, fees, and structure 30:45 - The 10x10 matrix for channeling global capital into Bitcoin 31:19 - How $10–20T of capital could expand Bitcoin into a $100T network, moving from $70K to $700K to $7M per bitcoin 32:10 - Bitcoin Capitalism as a Darwinian market: winners, challengers, failures, and 1,400 companies tracked by Strategy 34:53 - Existing bitcoin-backed products: Trezor, Unchained, Fidelity Investments, FOLD BITCOIN, Tando, Relai 🇨🇭, Cash App, Hodl Hodl, AnchorWatch, meanwhile | Bitcoin Life Insurance, $IBIT, $STRC, and $MSTR 40:03 - Digital Capital, Digital Credit, Digital Money, and Digital Yield competing with traditional capital markets 41:03 - Digital Money and Digital Yield: better stablecoins and higher-yield bitcoin-backed products 47:27 - 3 ways to participate: savers, investors, and innovators 49:19 - The aluminum airplane analogy: people buy the product, not the commodity underneath 52:29 - Build a ₿ridge to connect $BTC to the global capital markets 53:42 - 10,000 products, 10,000 needs, and 100,000 corporate efforts to change the world

Michael Saylor

266,579 Aufrufe • vor 3 Monaten

I had the chance to sit down with VanEck's matthew sigel, recovering CFA to discuss Bitcoin's price, the potential of a U.S. Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, institutional adoption, ETFs, emerging market adoption and more. We break down his forecast of $180k Bitcoin in 2025, $450k next cycle, and $3 million/coin in the decades to come. Timecodes: 00:00 Bitcoin price performance 1:18 Institutional adoption of Bitcoin and crypto 4:17 Bitcoin ETF success 5:37 Generating institutional interest and adoption 8:26 Chances of Strategic Bitcoin Reserve 9:52 Bitcoin Act 10:23 Bitcoin vs. Gold 13:13 Bitcoin in El Salvador, other emerging countries 17:05 Bitcoin acceptance requirement 18:44 Companies, miners buying more Bitcoin 24:57 JPMorgan HODL Premium 26:11 Bitcoin on balance sheets 29:25 Traditional vs. revolutionary 32:24 Protecting self-custody 33:53 What will Bitcoin price be in 2025? 37:45 Can Bitcoin reach $1m in next 2 years? 38:45 Demonetizing gold 40:38 Nuclear ETF 43:17 Matthew's career story
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I had the chance to sit down with VanEck's matthew sigel, recovering CFA to discuss Bitcoin's price, the potential of a U.S. Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, institutional adoption, ETFs, emerging market adoption and more. We break down his forecast of $180k Bitcoin in 2025, $450k next cycle, and $3 million/coin in the decades to come. Timecodes: 00:00 Bitcoin price performance 1:18 Institutional adoption of Bitcoin and crypto 4:17 Bitcoin ETF success 5:37 Generating institutional interest and adoption 8:26 Chances of Strategic Bitcoin Reserve 9:52 Bitcoin Act 10:23 Bitcoin vs. Gold 13:13 Bitcoin in El Salvador, other emerging countries 17:05 Bitcoin acceptance requirement 18:44 Companies, miners buying more Bitcoin 24:57 JPMorgan HODL Premium 26:11 Bitcoin on balance sheets 29:25 Traditional vs. revolutionary 32:24 Protecting self-custody 33:53 What will Bitcoin price be in 2025? 37:45 Can Bitcoin reach $1m in next 2 years? 38:45 Demonetizing gold 40:38 Nuclear ETF 43:17 Matthew's career story

Natalie Brunell ⚡️

95,030 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

“We’re focused on becoming a powerhouse in #Bitcoin.” New episode just released featuring Chairman Eric Semler and CFO Renae Cormier of Semler Scientific $SMLR. Hear all about the company’s plans to aggressively stack Bitcoin and climb the leaderboard of public Bitcoin treasuries. Timecodes: 00:00 Semler Scientific's vision and investment case 2:13 Semler Scientific's priority as a Bitcoin treasury 3:37 Adopting Bitcoin after Michael Saylor 9:11 KPIs, mNAV 12:00 Renae Cormier introduction 14:25 Buying more Bitcoin 15:16 "Volatility is vitality" 16:47 Balancing the healthcare innovation vs. Bitcoin 18:46 What is QuantaFlo? 22:26 Identifying systemic chronic health issues 23:47 Dr. Semler's lifesaving invention 26:00 Aggressive Bitcoin strategy 27:42 How to buy more Bitcoin 28:13 "Bitcoin Treasury Pioneer" 28:33 Is Bitcoin misunderstood? 31:15 Bitcoin in 10 years 34:23 Eric Semler's Bronx Baseball Dreams
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“We’re focused on becoming a powerhouse in #Bitcoin.” New episode just released featuring Chairman Eric Semler and CFO Renae Cormier of Semler Scientific $SMLR. Hear all about the company’s plans to aggressively stack Bitcoin and climb the leaderboard of public Bitcoin treasuries. Timecodes: 00:00 Semler Scientific's vision and investment case 2:13 Semler Scientific's priority as a Bitcoin treasury 3:37 Adopting Bitcoin after Michael Saylor 9:11 KPIs, mNAV 12:00 Renae Cormier introduction 14:25 Buying more Bitcoin 15:16 "Volatility is vitality" 16:47 Balancing the healthcare innovation vs. Bitcoin 18:46 What is QuantaFlo? 22:26 Identifying systemic chronic health issues 23:47 Dr. Semler's lifesaving invention 26:00 Aggressive Bitcoin strategy 27:42 How to buy more Bitcoin 28:13 "Bitcoin Treasury Pioneer" 28:33 Is Bitcoin misunderstood? 31:15 Bitcoin in 10 years 34:23 Eric Semler's Bronx Baseball Dreams

Natalie Brunell ⚡️

103,018 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

A wide-ranging conversation with CoinDesk on digital assets, crypto politics, monetary engineering, the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, Strategy, and the future of finance. 01:37 Vision Behind the $100T Crypto Strategy 03:44 Defining New Asset Classes 07:55 Balancing Innovation & Consumer Protection 14:40 The Importance of Digital Currency 16:34 Bitcoin's Role in Capital Preservation 23:29 The Future of Digital Assets 25:13 Strategic Bitcoin Reserve & National Security 44:39 Tax Policy & Industry Growth 59:07 My Background and Upbringing 01:02:01 Bitcoin’s Stability Mechanisms 01:02:25 Thermodynamics & Bitcoin: A Perfect Match 01:04:19 Satoshi’s Genius: Creating Perfect Money 01:09:27 Lessons from the Past: The Usher Story 01:15:28 Embracing New Platforms, Focusing on Success 01:21:30 Bitcoin as a Financial Strategy 01:47:41 The Future of Digital Finance 01:52:37 Final Thoughts & Legacy
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A wide-ranging conversation with CoinDesk on digital assets, crypto politics, monetary engineering, the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, Strategy, and the future of finance. 01:37 Vision Behind the $100T Crypto Strategy 03:44 Defining New Asset Classes 07:55 Balancing Innovation & Consumer Protection 14:40 The Importance of Digital Currency 16:34 Bitcoin's Role in Capital Preservation 23:29 The Future of Digital Assets 25:13 Strategic Bitcoin Reserve & National Security 44:39 Tax Policy & Industry Growth 59:07 My Background and Upbringing 01:02:01 Bitcoin’s Stability Mechanisms 01:02:25 Thermodynamics & Bitcoin: A Perfect Match 01:04:19 Satoshi’s Genius: Creating Perfect Money 01:09:27 Lessons from the Past: The Usher Story 01:15:28 Embracing New Platforms, Focusing on Success 01:21:30 Bitcoin as a Financial Strategy 01:47:41 The Future of Digital Finance 01:52:37 Final Thoughts & Legacy

Michael Saylor

552,296 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr