Ned Block: "#Perception is iconic in format, nonpropositional & nonconceptual, whereas #Cognition is paradigmatically discursive, language-like, conceptual & propositional." As always, Block's clarity of thought is much appreciated. But can we agree on this distinction?

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With all due respect, no. We're past 1985 at this point of the mind-brain sciences

I think I would disagree on both fronts and even with the idea that perception and cognition can be so neatly dissociated

I'm afraid we can't. To put it in the late Susan Hurley's metaphor, we're back to the classic cognitivist 'Sandwich model of the Mind'.

The real value of a consciousness model emerges when we stay grounded in observable biological processes rather than getting caught in theoretical constructs. We no know enough about what is happening at the mitochondria and plasma membrane level to understand that our cognitive process is much more dynamic, layered and beautiful. Nonlinear with so many operations happening in parallel. Early theories are akin to trying to understand traffic in a major cities by looking at just shadows of cars. They don’t consider how the cars work, fuel or the drivers.

Rather incoherent, what makes an "icon" a perception of it is not cognitive What is "language-like" rather than just linguistic?

I think he means that perception is "isomorphic": the representation resembles the object of the representation in a direct, spatial, point-by-point way, whereas "language-like" refers to the sequential & conventional chain of representations involved in symbolic communication...

I agree that it’s a distinction.

Must revisit 'Beyond Concepts: Unicepts, Language, and Natural Info.' @NotreDame perc. cog. concepts (threshold.. conceptual spaces..)

Perception is NOT iconic in format, it is coded information. That information is analyzed, thought about. The information does not exists by itself. It is connected to the consciousness of all who understand it, perceive it, or originate it. You know, just like thinking, mixing, matching, merging sifting and sorting of ideas. 🤔