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New @Edge_Pod's out! Tom Dunleavy walks through a framework for valuing ETH today and where it could go by 2030. If Ethereum is a vault holding stablecoins, RWAs and DeFi activity, and ETH is the lock protecting it, how much does the lock need to be worth? $55k -... show more

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🎙️ New The Edge Podcast 🔐 Ethereum Is A Vault, ETH Is The Lock: A Framework for ETH's Fair Value, Today and By 2030 0:00 - Intro 2:51 - Tom’s role investing at Varys 3:32 - DCF is the wrong way to value ETH 6:16 - Is Ethereum winning? 11:40 - Fees are friction, not how we value ETH 16:12 - Can Ethereum have its cake and eat it too? 19:45 - If Ethereum is the vault, ETH is the lock 23:58 - Why stablecoin numbers look bullish 27:04 - Ethereum must succeed, or crypto fails 28:59 - Comparison to Linux + DTCC is wrong 32:55 - Importance as trustware producing blocks 35:40 - Underestimating the L1 scaling 39:41 - Stablecoin issuers still rely on Ethereum 42:11 - The framework is for ETH, not DeFi tokens 45:15 - $20k - $50k price once liq hits $750B 47:33 - How Tom gets to a FMV today of $6.9k 52:59 - 2030 base case ($55k) vs bull case ($138K) 53:57 - Closing 🙏 Thanks to Varys Capital Head of Venture, Tom Dunleavy, for joining us!

🎙️ New The Edge Podcast 🔐 Ethereum Is A Vault, ETH Is The Lock: A Framework for ETH's Fair Value, Today and By 2030 0:00 - Intro 2:51 - Tom’s role investing at Varys 3:32 - DCF is the wrong way to value ETH 6:16 - Is Ethereum winning? 11:40 - Fees are friction, not how we value ETH 16:12 - Can Ethereum have its cake and eat it too? 19:45 - If Ethereum is the vault, ETH is the lock 23:58 - Why stablecoin numbers look bullish 27:04 - Ethereum must succeed, or crypto fails 28:59 - Comparison to Linux + DTCC is wrong 32:55 - Importance as trustware producing blocks 35:40 - Underestimating the L1 scaling 39:41 - Stablecoin issuers still rely on Ethereum 42:11 - The framework is for ETH, not DeFi tokens 45:15 - $20k - $50k price once liq hits $750B 47:33 - How Tom gets to a FMV today of $6.9k 52:59 - 2030 base case ($55k) vs bull case ($138K) 53:57 - Closing 🙏 Thanks to Varys Capital Head of Venture, Tom Dunleavy, for joining us!

DeFi Dad ⟠ defidad.eth

30,401 次观看 • 2 个月前

I hate to tweet a clip from a new The Edge Podcast not out yet, but I can't wait to release this pod tomorrow with Tom Dunleavy. Someone said today there's no ETH bull thesis for outperformance. Tomorrow we drop an entire convo discussing a valuation framework that says ETH is mispriced right now. Fees are friction, not revenue. DCF is clearly the wrong model in a proof of stake network like Ethereum. Ethereum is the vault, but ETH is the lock on all its rich economic activity. Tune in for Tom Dunleavy from Varys Capital tomorrow!

I hate to tweet a clip from a new The Edge Podcast not out yet, but I can't wait to release this pod tomorrow with Tom Dunleavy. Someone said today there's no ETH bull thesis for outperformance. Tomorrow we drop an entire convo discussing a valuation framework that says ETH is mispriced right now. Fees are friction, not revenue. DCF is clearly the wrong model in a proof of stake network like Ethereum. Ethereum is the vault, but ETH is the lock on all its rich economic activity. Tune in for Tom Dunleavy from Varys Capital tomorrow!

DeFi Dad ⟠ defidad.eth

20,774 次观看 • 2 个月前

The ETH thesis for Thomas (Tom) Lee (not drummer) FundstratDirect.com is simple. He's frontrunning ETH accumulation by the banks. "Ethereum is also the architecture that future banks will have. When goldman issues a stablecoin and JPMorgan doing it on Ethereum as Layer 1 blockchain they're going to want to secure it by staking Ethereum so, we're trying to get in front of that by creating an Ethereum treasury vehicle." Why is Tom Lee converting a bitcoin mining company to an ETH treasury and staking company? Simple. The banks will have stablecoins. The stablecoins will deploy on Ethereum. And so...the banks will acquire & stake ETH to secure their stablecoins. First commercial banks buy and stake. Then central banks buy and stake ETH. ETH becomes a world reserve asset. He's frontrunning the obvious ETH accumulation trend - just as he did with bitcoin many years ago. Bullish ETH.

The ETH thesis for Thomas (Tom) Lee (not drummer) FundstratDirect.com is simple. He's frontrunning ETH accumulation by the banks. "Ethereum is also the architecture that future banks will have. When goldman issues a stablecoin and JPMorgan doing it on Ethereum as Layer 1 blockchain they're going to want to secure it by staking Ethereum so, we're trying to get in front of that by creating an Ethereum treasury vehicle." Why is Tom Lee converting a bitcoin mining company to an ETH treasury and staking company? Simple. The banks will have stablecoins. The stablecoins will deploy on Ethereum. And so...the banks will acquire & stake ETH to secure their stablecoins. First commercial banks buy and stake. Then central banks buy and stake ETH. ETH becomes a world reserve asset. He's frontrunning the obvious ETH accumulation trend - just as he did with bitcoin many years ago. Bullish ETH.

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474,333 次观看 • 1 年前

$ETH is the Microsoft of crypto. Raoul Pal's Ethereum framework: If you pulled the plug on $ETH tomorrow, how much economic value gets destroyed? L2s. DeFi. RWAs. NFTs. Stablecoin rails. AI agents. That alone makes ETH undervalued. Bitcoin is global savings. Ethereum is global infrastructure. And infrastructure can scale far beyond what most people are pricing in. Micron and Intel showed what happens when years of boredom meet one explosive cycle. That’s the setup for Ethereum.

$ETH is the Microsoft of crypto. Raoul Pal's Ethereum framework: If you pulled the plug on $ETH tomorrow, how much economic value gets destroyed? L2s. DeFi. RWAs. NFTs. Stablecoin rails. AI agents. That alone makes ETH undervalued. Bitcoin is global savings. Ethereum is global infrastructure. And infrastructure can scale far beyond what most people are pricing in. Micron and Intel showed what happens when years of boredom meet one explosive cycle. That’s the setup for Ethereum.

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83,277 次观看 • 2 个月前

ETH TREASURIES ARE NOT BITCOIN TREASURIES SharpLink CFO says it holds 875,000 $ETH, but the real point is bigger than the number. Bitcoin can sit still as digital gold. Ethereum is different. ETH can be staked, used on chain, secure the network and generate yield. That is why this treasury model matters. 🔹 Stablecoins are the first step 🔹 Tokenization is the next wave 🔹 Productive ETH sits underneath it This is not just holding ETH. It is putting ETH to work.

ETH TREASURIES ARE NOT BITCOIN TREASURIES SharpLink CFO says it holds 875,000 $ETH, but the real point is bigger than the number. Bitcoin can sit still as digital gold. Ethereum is different. ETH can be staked, used on chain, secure the network and generate yield. That is why this treasury model matters. 🔹 Stablecoins are the first step 🔹 Tokenization is the next wave 🔹 Productive ETH sits underneath it This is not just holding ETH. It is putting ETH to work.

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40,549 次观看 • 1 个月前

Tom Lee says $ETH could hit $62,000. Here’s how: The ETH/BTC ratio shows how much 1 ETH is worth in BTC. This has averaged around 0.048 over the last 8 years. If $BTC runs to $250K and ETH just trades at that average ratio, it implies a price of $12K. If ETH recovers its 2021 ratio high of 0.087, that jumps closer to $22K. But if Ethereum grows into its role as the financial rails of the system, which is happening... Thomas (Tom) Lee (not drummer) FSInsight.com says the upside isn’t $22k, it’s $62K.

Tom Lee says $ETH could hit $62,000. Here’s how: The ETH/BTC ratio shows how much 1 ETH is worth in BTC. This has averaged around 0.048 over the last 8 years. If $BTC runs to $250K and ETH just trades at that average ratio, it implies a price of $12K. If ETH recovers its 2021 ratio high of 0.087, that jumps closer to $22K. But if Ethereum grows into its role as the financial rails of the system, which is happening... Thomas (Tom) Lee (not drummer) FSInsight.com says the upside isn’t $22k, it’s $62K.

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1,760,332 次观看 • 1 年前

Tom Lee made his market open debut today on the show and we discussed a variety of topics including Ethereum & Bitmine: - Why $ETH could be the biggest macro trade of the next decade - How $BMNR is growing the NAV & ETH per share at an accelerated pace - Ethereum end of year targets Thank you to Tom Thomas (Tom) Lee (not drummer) FundstratDirect.com for taking the time to join the show, we all deeply appreciated it!

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7 years in the making: Ethereum is about to decide what happens next to altcoins. ETH/BTC is sitting at a trendline that's rejected Ethereum and altcoins for nearly a year. If it breaks, it could be the confirmation altcoin holders have been waiting for. If it fails, expect more downside volatility. I walk through why this may be the most important chart in crypto right now and how it ties into the business cycle, post-QT normalization, and even the Clarity Act. Intro 00:00 ETH/BTC and Clarity Act 2:30 Altcoin dips 5:10 Macro reversal 7:50 Watch ETH/BTC if Clarity passes 10:15 ETH risk 11:20 Eth price action short term 13:00

7 years in the making: Ethereum is about to decide what happens next to altcoins. ETH/BTC is sitting at a trendline that's rejected Ethereum and altcoins for nearly a year. If it breaks, it could be the confirmation altcoin holders have been waiting for. If it fails, expect more downside volatility. I walk through why this may be the most important chart in crypto right now and how it ties into the business cycle, post-QT normalization, and even the Clarity Act. Intro 00:00 ETH/BTC and Clarity Act 2:30 Altcoin dips 5:10 Macro reversal 7:50 Watch ETH/BTC if Clarity passes 10:15 ETH risk 11:20 Eth price action short term 13:00

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29,442 次观看 • 1 个月前

THE $250k $ETH THESIS "There’s 100x in it." Vivek of Etherealize says Ethereum is better money than Bitcoin. Gold-like, but with staking yield. A call option on money itself. A monetary asset plus the settlement layer for tokenized finance, stablecoins, DeFi, institutions and trillions in RWAs. Gold has no yield. Bitcoin has no native yield. ETH secures the network and earns staking yield. Institutions on $ETH vs $SOL: "To be completely frank, Solana never comes up"

THE $250k $ETH THESIS "There’s 100x in it." Vivek of Etherealize says Ethereum is better money than Bitcoin. Gold-like, but with staking yield. A call option on money itself. A monetary asset plus the settlement layer for tokenized finance, stablecoins, DeFi, institutions and trillions in RWAs. Gold has no yield. Bitcoin has no native yield. ETH secures the network and earns staking yield. Institutions on $ETH vs $SOL: "To be completely frank, Solana never comes up"

SamAlτcoin.eth ☀️

40,113 次观看 • 1 个月前

$ETH floodgates are about to open. "If you could see what we’re seeing from the inside, you would be wildly bullish." Ex-BlackRock Joe Chalom and Ethereum co-founder Joe Lubin on why Ethereum’s biggest move is still ahead. For years, $ETH has traded like a Bitcoin beta. But institutions are treating Ethereum like financial infrastructure. Stablecoins were the first real proof point of tokenization, and over 50% is happening on Ethereum. Solana has less than 1/10th of Ethereum’s stablecoin TVL and transaction volume. Tokenized assets? - BlackRock launched on $ETH - Robinhood is launching on $ETH - Governments are choosing $ETH - JPMorgan is tokenizing assets and deposits on $ETH DeFi pioneered on Ethereum. Now AI agents, x402, ERC-8004, and machine-to-machine payments could create a tidal wave of transaction volume. As Chalom puts it: "it’ll be very good at sucking up blockspace." Lubin on $ETH's endgame: Once DeFi feels safe enough, institutions and retail will realize they can "earn significant yield" in an appreciating currency instead of settling for lower yields in a debasing one. The $ETH supercycle is coming.

$ETH floodgates are about to open. "If you could see what we’re seeing from the inside, you would be wildly bullish." Ex-BlackRock Joe Chalom and Ethereum co-founder Joe Lubin on why Ethereum’s biggest move is still ahead. For years, $ETH has traded like a Bitcoin beta. But institutions are treating Ethereum like financial infrastructure. Stablecoins were the first real proof point of tokenization, and over 50% is happening on Ethereum. Solana has less than 1/10th of Ethereum’s stablecoin TVL and transaction volume. Tokenized assets? - BlackRock launched on $ETH - Robinhood is launching on $ETH - Governments are choosing $ETH - JPMorgan is tokenizing assets and deposits on $ETH DeFi pioneered on Ethereum. Now AI agents, x402, ERC-8004, and machine-to-machine payments could create a tidal wave of transaction volume. As Chalom puts it: "it’ll be very good at sucking up blockspace." Lubin on $ETH's endgame: Once DeFi feels safe enough, institutions and retail will realize they can "earn significant yield" in an appreciating currency instead of settling for lower yields in a debasing one. The $ETH supercycle is coming.

SamAlτcoin.eth ☀️

62,832 次观看 • 1 个月前

If you do anything today, please listen to this 3-min clip on what Co-CEO Joseph Chalom refers to as The ETH Opportunity... FYI, Joe is the former Head of Digital Assets Strategy at BlackRock, who drove the creation of IBIT, ETHA, and BUIDL. "The more assets and transactions that are secured on the Ethereum network, have been proven to increase the value of ETH..." "If you look at the last 5 years, for each $2 secured on the network, on Ethereum and the L2s, it's driven about $1 of market cap value of Ethereum [ETH]..." "And if you take a step back and say stablecoins are at this size today, but Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says it's gonna grow to a trillion over the next 3 years, if you look at the adoption of RWAs, which is in the first inning and can literally go j-curve, the value of tokenized assets which could be measured in the trillions or tens of trillions... they are gonna be secured by a decentralized network. We believe the vast majority is gonna be Ethereum. That is a bull case for ETH..." "If more assets are secured on the Ethereum network, the value of ETH will go up, and the value of it being a trust commodity, the highest value of money, is gonna be critically important if you believe we are at a paradigm shift, and that's what I call the ETH opportunity. It's not a trade, it's an ETH opportunity." "And for all of those who feel like they missed the early days of crypto, you are at still a very early entry point in the adoption of Ethereum and that is the long term ETH opportunity, not the ETH trade." ACCELERATE 🚀

If you do anything today, please listen to this 3-min clip on what Co-CEO Joseph Chalom refers to as The ETH Opportunity... FYI, Joe is the former Head of Digital Assets Strategy at BlackRock, who drove the creation of IBIT, ETHA, and BUIDL. "The more assets and transactions that are secured on the Ethereum network, have been proven to increase the value of ETH..." "If you look at the last 5 years, for each $2 secured on the network, on Ethereum and the L2s, it's driven about $1 of market cap value of Ethereum [ETH]..." "And if you take a step back and say stablecoins are at this size today, but Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says it's gonna grow to a trillion over the next 3 years, if you look at the adoption of RWAs, which is in the first inning and can literally go j-curve, the value of tokenized assets which could be measured in the trillions or tens of trillions... they are gonna be secured by a decentralized network. We believe the vast majority is gonna be Ethereum. That is a bull case for ETH..." "If more assets are secured on the Ethereum network, the value of ETH will go up, and the value of it being a trust commodity, the highest value of money, is gonna be critically important if you believe we are at a paradigm shift, and that's what I call the ETH opportunity. It's not a trade, it's an ETH opportunity." "And for all of those who feel like they missed the early days of crypto, you are at still a very early entry point in the adoption of Ethereum and that is the long term ETH opportunity, not the ETH trade." ACCELERATE 🚀

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259,949 次观看 • 1 年前

🚨TOM LEE JUST BROKE IT DOWN! 🤯 •Ethereum is worth $440B today •Global markets = $300 TRILLION •BlackRock’s Larry Fink wants to tokenize assets on blockchain •If even a small % moves to Ethereum… Lee says $ETH could hit $63,000+ 🔥 The upside? MASSIVE, Trillions in value‼️ $ETH / $BMNR

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BMNR Bullz

665,097 次观看 • 9 个月前

Ethereum Co-Founder Joe Lubin on SharpLink Gaming “SHARPLINK IS GOING TO OUTSTRIP EVERY OTHER ETH TREASURY COMPANY, QUICKLY AND DRAMATICALLY” 🤯 Here's how he plans on doing it: - $SBET being one of the largest ETH accumulators on the planet - Actively managing ETH to maximize its productivity - Stake, restake, and compound into powerful DeFi yields - SharpLink is backed by the Ethereum company itself, which is a massive, unfair advantage - SharpLink is run by the best DeFi investors in the world Sharplink’s strategy is simple: accumulate more $ETH than anyone else, put it to work smarter, and generate steady, compounding returns for the long term

Ethereum Co-Founder Joe Lubin on SharpLink Gaming “SHARPLINK IS GOING TO OUTSTRIP EVERY OTHER ETH TREASURY COMPANY, QUICKLY AND DRAMATICALLY” 🤯 Here's how he plans on doing it: - $SBET being one of the largest ETH accumulators on the planet - Actively managing ETH to maximize its productivity - Stake, restake, and compound into powerful DeFi yields - SharpLink is backed by the Ethereum company itself, which is a massive, unfair advantage - SharpLink is run by the best DeFi investors in the world Sharplink’s strategy is simple: accumulate more $ETH than anyone else, put it to work smarter, and generate steady, compounding returns for the long term

Crypto-Gucci.eth ᵍᵐ🦇🔊

164,210 次观看 • 1 年前

🚀 TOM LEE JUST SAID ETH TO $60,000 🚀 At the Ethereum NYC: NextFin Summit, Tom Lee just dropped one of the most bullish ETH outlooks yet: - #Ethereum is the biggest macro trade of the next 10–15 years - Wall Street is moving onto the blockchain and Ethereum is where they’ll build - Stablecoin boom + Genius Act + SEC clarity = ETH’s ChatGPT moment - AI + robots are creating a token economy, likely on Ethereum How to $60K 👇 - 20% of Wall Street banking activity will run on Ethereum - $ETH will capture a similar share of global payment rails - This is ETH’s 2017 Bitcoin moment, Wall Street is discovering it now - Lee says ETH at $60K is the magnitude move you get when Wall Street buys in Wall Street wants your ETH ETH is going way higher

🚀 TOM LEE JUST SAID ETH TO $60,000 🚀 At the Ethereum NYC: NextFin Summit, Tom Lee just dropped one of the most bullish ETH outlooks yet: - #Ethereum is the biggest macro trade of the next 10–15 years - Wall Street is moving onto the blockchain and Ethereum is where they’ll build - Stablecoin boom + Genius Act + SEC clarity = ETH’s ChatGPT moment - AI + robots are creating a token economy, likely on Ethereum How to $60K 👇 - 20% of Wall Street banking activity will run on Ethereum - $ETH will capture a similar share of global payment rails - This is ETH’s 2017 Bitcoin moment, Wall Street is discovering it now - Lee says ETH at $60K is the magnitude move you get when Wall Street buys in Wall Street wants your ETH ETH is going way higher

Crypto-Gucci.eth ᵍᵐ🦇🔊

93,863 次观看 • 1 年前

Ether staking requests outpace exit requests by 152x?! There is now 2,745,510 $ETH, worth around $4.6B, waiting to be staked on the Ethereum network. This is versus just 18,037 $ETH waiting to be unstaked. The difference is MASSIVE but is less than it has been at points in the past few weeks. Nonetheless, it seems to indicate serious long-term demand for $ETH exposure and accrual.

Ether staking requests outpace exit requests by 152x?! There is now 2,745,510 $ETH, worth around $4.6B, waiting to be staked on the Ethereum network. This is versus just 18,037 $ETH waiting to be unstaked. The difference is MASSIVE but is less than it has been at points in the past few weeks. Nonetheless, it seems to indicate serious long-term demand for $ETH exposure and accrual.

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Vivek reveals why ETH will be a core institutional holding: “Institutional allocations into ETH are inevitable as Ethereum grows.” “You need a neutral asset where the U.S. can trade with anyone. ETH is that asset. It’s still early, but as that happens, ETH reprices into a multi-trillion-dollar asset because it’s trustless collateral that no one can censor.” “If everything’s going to be tokenized, you need a neutral asset… ETH is that asset.”

Vivek reveals why ETH will be a core institutional holding: “Institutional allocations into ETH are inevitable as Ethereum grows.” “You need a neutral asset where the U.S. can trade with anyone. ETH is that asset. It’s still early, but as that happens, ETH reprices into a multi-trillion-dollar asset because it’s trustless collateral that no one can censor.” “If everything’s going to be tokenized, you need a neutral asset… ETH is that asset.”

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