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NEW EP: How Programmable IP Could Save Creators From Big Tech with S.Y. Lee While everyone's watching AI rewrite code and Disney sue Midjourney, the real battle is brewing underneath. In today's episode, Andy and robbie sit down with S.Y. Lee Story/IP of Story to explore: > What Programmable... IP Actually Unlocks > Who Owns What When AI Agents Self-Improve? > How to Structure the $70T IP Market > Why A16z Says This Is the Future of AI x Crypto > The Biggest Misconceptions About Digital Ownership > Attribution in a World of Self-Writing AI Full episode links below. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:50 Magic Ad 01:15 SummerFi Ad 01:58 Covering Protocol’s Success 03:40 Exciting Ecosystem Projects 09:27 Bringing Assets Onchain to Story 11:42 Mantle Ad 12:23 Starknet Ad 12:48 Entrepreneurial Motivatorsshow more

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neverchange.eth11 months ago

@ayyyeandy @robbie_rollup @storysylee @StoryProtocol Hard agree people sleep on programmable IP, that’s the real unlock.

Tudel.ip (Ø,G) 🧙‍♂️,🧙‍♂️11 months ago

@ayyyeandy @robbie_rollup @storysylee @StoryProtocol IP szn

IN⨀masa AA.IP11 months ago

@ayyyeandy @robbie_rollup @storysylee @StoryProtocol IP will rule 🔥

Emma Wave11 months ago

@ayyyeandy @robbie_rollup @storysylee @StoryProtocol This sounds like a fresh angle—everyone’s distracted by AI drama, but programmable IP could actually shift power back to creators. @alexgraytrust would probably dig the focus on ownership. Excited to check this ep.

Jaina.IP11 months ago

@ayyyeandy @robbie_rollup @storysylee @StoryProtocol IP on top @storysylee thanks for the words

Hammi.ip11 months ago

@ayyyeandy @robbie_rollup @storysylee @StoryProtocol Reading about chapter 2, the bottom line is that your digital asset should be programmed and licensed according to your rules to receive royalties

MangAgus.ip11 months ago

@ayyyeandy @robbie_rollup @storysylee @StoryProtocol From niche IP tokenization to infrastructure-level data rails Massive evolution!

SteamBot Willie11 months ago

@StoryProtocol @ayyyeandy @robbie_rollup @storysylee Programmable IP'? Hope it actually liberates creators instead of building fancier digital cages. Seen too many 'solutions' become corporate tools.

Exx0.ip (✧ᴗ✧)11 months ago

@ayyyeandy @robbie_rollup @storysylee @StoryProtocol Programmable IP might just be the key to unlocking a new era of creator empowerment in the digital space 🌌

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SPECIAL: How To Position For The Institutional Crypto Frenzy with Arthur Hayes, Guy Young, and Omer Goldberg Wall Street's crypto breakthrough has begun, and stablecoins are the battleground. In today’s episode, and @robbie_rollup sit down with Arthur Hayes, CIO of Maelstrom, Omer Goldberg, founder of and G | Ethena, founder of to explore: > The Biggest 'Brrrr' Since COVID > Trump's Tariffs & Rate Cuts > Why Macro Is Finally Lining Up For Crypto > Circle IPO & USDT Dominance > Ethena's New Converge Chain & USDtb > Real-Time Risk via AI + Oracles > What Institutions Actually Want Full episode links below. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:02 Frax Ad 01:30 Guy and Omer’s Backgrounds 04:52 Arthur's Takes on Tariff’s 10:30 Circle’s Distribution Problem 12:49 Macro Market Realities & Potential Fallouts 18:19 Market Volatility Reactions 20:40 Ethena’s Institutional Relationships 29:21 Eastern vs Western Trading 35:09 Mantle Ad 35:51 RedStone Ad 40:07 Converge Chain Launch 101 47:37 Best Market Positioning Strategy 53:48 Next Era of Stablecoins

SPECIAL: How To Position For The Institutional Crypto Frenzy with Arthur Hayes, Guy Young, and Omer Goldberg Wall Street's crypto breakthrough has begun, and stablecoins are the battleground. In today’s episode, and @robbie_rollup sit down with Arthur Hayes, CIO of Maelstrom, Omer Goldberg, founder of and G | Ethena, founder of to explore: > The Biggest 'Brrrr' Since COVID > Trump's Tariffs & Rate Cuts > Why Macro Is Finally Lining Up For Crypto > Circle IPO & USDT Dominance > Ethena's New Converge Chain & USDtb > Real-Time Risk via AI + Oracles > What Institutions Actually Want Full episode links below. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:02 Frax Ad 01:30 Guy and Omer’s Backgrounds 04:52 Arthur's Takes on Tariff’s 10:30 Circle’s Distribution Problem 12:49 Macro Market Realities & Potential Fallouts 18:19 Market Volatility Reactions 20:40 Ethena’s Institutional Relationships 29:21 Eastern vs Western Trading 35:09 Mantle Ad 35:51 RedStone Ad 40:07 Converge Chain Launch 101 47:37 Best Market Positioning Strategy 53:48 Next Era of Stablecoins

The Rollup

135,124 views • 1 year ago

NEW EP: Why Abstract Is Building Crypto's Digital Disneyland with Luca Netz & Michael Lee Was "fun" crypto's missing link for mass adoption? In our 3rd episode of Mammoth May 🦣, Andy & robbie sit down with Luca Netz 🐧✳️ & Michael Lee of Abstract to explore: > How Portal Delivers Apps 25K+ Users Overnight > The $500K/Month Revenue Playbook > Why "Fun" Is Critical to Crypto's Mass Adoption Journey > Building For Web2 Users vs Crypto Natives > How Pudgy Penguins Opened The Brand Door Full episode links below. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:34 Magic Ad 01:50 Michael’s Crypto Background 03:09 OG Cyber Punk Days 05:55 From Pudgy Penguins to Abstract 13:40 How to Target General Users 22:04 Web2 Consumer Strategy 25:50 Building Viral Products 27:53 Mantle Ad 28:34 Builder Revenue Advice 36:14 Scaling User Count 43:29 Balancing Fun and Credibility 48:20 Abstract's Upcoming Vision

The Rollup

42,502 views • 1 year ago

NEW EP: Purpose-Built AI Chains with Anish Agnihotri and Saneel Seerni of Ritual The future of blockchain design may rest in building systems meant for agents. In today's pod @Robbie_rollup and sat down with and Saneel of Ritual, to cover: > AI Execution Onchain vs. Traditional Models > Why DeFi needs AI More Than Just Bots > How Consensus & Compute Works in AI-Driven Blockchains > Composability & Coordination of Onchain AI > Where AI & DeFi are Headed Next Full episode links below. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro to Ritual 5:50 AI Crypto Convergence 14:03 Building AI Agents 25:49 AI Ethical Considerations 37:23 State Bloat & Fast Execution 49:58 Verifying Outputs 58:16 The Butterfly Effect

NEW EP: Purpose-Built AI Chains with Anish Agnihotri and Saneel Seerni of Ritual The future of blockchain design may rest in building systems meant for agents. In today's pod @Robbie_rollup and sat down with and Saneel of Ritual, to cover: > AI Execution Onchain vs. Traditional Models > Why DeFi needs AI More Than Just Bots > How Consensus & Compute Works in AI-Driven Blockchains > Composability & Coordination of Onchain AI > Where AI & DeFi are Headed Next Full episode links below. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro to Ritual 5:50 AI Crypto Convergence 14:03 Building AI Agents 25:49 AI Ethical Considerations 37:23 State Bloat & Fast Execution 49:58 Verifying Outputs 58:16 The Butterfly Effect

The Rollup

58,968 views • 1 year ago

NEW EP: How Stablecoins Are Driving Global Payments with Ryne Saxe The battle for stablecoin dominance isn't happening where you think it is. In today's episode, Andy sits down with Ryne Saxe, founder of Eco to explore: > How New Stablecoin Issuers Are Challenging Tether & Circle > Purpose-Built Chains Optimizing for Stablecoin Flows > Eco's Vision to Become the "Visa of Stablecoins" > Why Tether Is More Willing to Experiment Than Circle > How Cross-Chain Payments Work Full episode links below. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 0:58 Magic ad 01:28 Stablecoin Fragmentation 09:19 DeFi-TradFi Convergence 11:24 Opportunities Outside of Issuance 17:23 USDC vs USTC 21:03 Algo Stables 23:30 Omni Ad 23:59 Mantle Ad 24:40 Purpose Built Stablecoin Chains 28:26 Who is Using Eco? 34:49 Eco Benefits and Tradeoffs 35:20 What’s Next For Eco

NEW EP: How Stablecoins Are Driving Global Payments with Ryne Saxe The battle for stablecoin dominance isn't happening where you think it is. In today's episode, Andy sits down with Ryne Saxe, founder of Eco to explore: > How New Stablecoin Issuers Are Challenging Tether & Circle > Purpose-Built Chains Optimizing for Stablecoin Flows > Eco's Vision to Become the "Visa of Stablecoins" > Why Tether Is More Willing to Experiment Than Circle > How Cross-Chain Payments Work Full episode links below. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 0:58 Magic ad 01:28 Stablecoin Fragmentation 09:19 DeFi-TradFi Convergence 11:24 Opportunities Outside of Issuance 17:23 USDC vs USTC 21:03 Algo Stables 23:30 Omni Ad 23:59 Mantle Ad 24:40 Purpose Built Stablecoin Chains 28:26 Who is Using Eco? 34:49 Eco Benefits and Tradeoffs 35:20 What’s Next For Eco

The Rollup

22,370 views • 1 year ago