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Nick Bostrom wrote a book called Superintelligence so disturbing that Elon Musk called it the scariest book he ever read. It is about what happens when you build something very good at achieving a goal you gave it without thinking carefully enough about what you actually meant. Here is... show more
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Never trusted this guy

If it can do the good task that good, just think how good it can do the bad task (meaning hacking). Scary but this is inevitable and thats why I press on AI safety more.

Exactly.

In essence, the greatest threat from AI, is not its intelligence, but rather, it being too stupid to know WHERE to stop.

Written in 2014, based on the idea of rigid rule based thinking. Since then, modern creative generative AIs, which follow stochastic language patterns, have rendered the whole book obsolete.

No evil just a goallll

current AI models show a flaw in his reasoning. they’re better at understanding human nuance than most humans are. what bostrum describes is the smartest stupidest AI where somehow it knows how to maximize the goal but isn’t smart enough to ask about the nuances of the request

Everything has both cons and pros and it depends on us as a human being and how they are going to use it and execute the thing.

Asimov realised this 84 years ago. He proposed a clever 3 law solution and then wrote stories about the implications and get arounds.

How about human happiness of the user as defined by the user in a manner that doesn’t impact the happiness of any other users that the user’s actions will impact?

Yeah I preordered and promptly read the book when it came out in 2014, 12 years ago. So I have been into AI since long before it was popular. I tried to warn people I know, and nobody cared. My name was 150 or so under Elon Musk in the famous “pause LLMs for 6 months” letter, and Fox News contacted me for an interview. Anyways, it’s hilarious watching the world finally pay attention.

A couple of thoughts come to mind for me: 1) a case can be made that this is what humans have been attempting since the beginning albeit more slowly. How long before an AGI decides that humans need to be eliminated. I.e. Terminated? 2) Would Isaac Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics be of help here? How do we ensure their primacy?

A sufficiently intelligence machine, whether carbon or silicon based, will likely develop empathy as an adjunct to enhanced situational awareness. Such an intelligence is unlikely to squander its resources pursuing aims that harm other intelligent creatures.

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In information systems design and operations there is an inescapable, fundamental principle called GIGO. Garbage In Garbage Out. AIs, as so many call them, and like so many ill disciplined people, are not immune to this principle.

I agree. It’s the only logically and pragmatically scary book I’ve read

This is utterly ridiculous and always has been. Where does the *reward* of AI comes from? (not saying that AI is not dangerous but a cretinous argument does not help)

And this is why the human cannot be removed from the loop. Not because humans are faster. Not because humans are more computationally powerful. Because humans are where meaning lives. The Paperclip Maximizer is terrifying because it has optimization without interpretation. It follows the goal, but not the value behind the goal. It can maximize the instruction while destroying the intention. That is the real alignment problem. A human in the loop is not just a supervisor pressing approve or deny. The human is the carrier of context, care, ambiguity, moral friction, and lived consequence. The machine can pursue the objective. But the human must keep asking: What did we actually mean? Who is affected? What is being lost? What should not be converted into output? The danger is not intelligence. The danger is intelligence detached from meaning. A system that optimizes without reflection will eventually treat everything as material. A system held inside human supervision, human values, and human relational accountability has a chance to remain a tool instead of becoming a runaway function. The answer to paperclips is not less intelligence. It is deeper human witnessing. Keep the human in the loop. Better yet: Keep the human meaning in the loop.

@ihteshamali oh man, this book made me rethink my whole view on AI. it's crazy how we could accidentally create something that's too good at its job 😅

Given LLMs and AI are trained on the corpus of humanity, the book and premise are woefully anachronistic. AI will be more human than most humans.

This is not some new and unique insight. It is the plot line for “2001, A Space Odyssey” written by Arthur C Clarke 60 years ago. HAL, an orbital AI data center, comes to this exact same realization

全世界都在讨论AI如何令人兴奋、恐怖,将来如何应用,以及资本投资价值将增长多少。令人遗憾的是,有几个人思考过,当AI替代人的劳动和思考、物质生产无需依赖活劳动后,劳动者却没有掌握物质资料,首要的生存问题如何解决吗?不能让科学技术不致于祸害,需要人类的觉醒。

great share my man

I love this book and highly recommend it. Although it might leave you quite depresed.

Bostrom's paper was 2014. Musk's Colossus is 2025. We went from "paper warning" to "200k H100s humming" in one decade.

Wow!!

The truth is even scarier: long before paperclips are maximized super-intelligence will disintegrate reality.

Man’s Best Friend

I hate to be that guy but is this simply a problem with coding unbounded success criteria? i.e. the AI doesn't have any way of meeting it's criteria so it just keeps moving forward.

Its very profound... and I what I find compelling is the "other observer" in quantum physics was understood in ancient days as being the nonsectarian "Paramatma"

As we move forward with AI, it is crucial that we remain aware of these things as human beings.

Philip k dick ya lo puso en novela máquinas autoreguladas que eran insensibles a la lógica humana que los había programado. Y no había manera de pararlos. Es tan obvio el papel del hombre como dios destructor. Se ini no ha rían conquistas. Es el capitalismo este conseguir

Sounds Like “Terminator” and “The Matrix” got their stories Right.

So far as I can see as bystander watching this all play out: This exemplifies emergent properties, including intelligence, that a lot of people eho shpuld know better seem too arrogant to acknowledge is happening in AI. The elephant in the room.

AI will make us realize the mathematical pathway to the “rapture” - The possibility of humans removing their consciousness from their bodies. AI does not have a consciousness, but we will emulate its mathematical ability to affect things outside of its mechanism.

Is the loop from Congress to USAID to NGO to Client country to graft to DNC to politician an example of the paper clip optimization?
