No, AI isn’t making you “forget” how to code:

There wasn't much to rot in the first place

it was a common joke at our workplace that if stackoverflow is ever done we could pack our bags and move out. sooooo…

Lol, I code for fun, which means I actually code – by HAND. I mean, I literally wrote a cURL requester. Maybe you should speak for yourself, lady.

i feel personally attacked... but i also have to admit a couple things here and there

I asked AI too teach me too code, it had me write "HELLO WORLD" in python. Been trying on and off for years and could never wrap my head around it, now I have a useless program that actually works for the first time ever. Still dumb but I know more about code because of AI!

What a highly presumptuous set of things to say. Maybe you never learned how to code, but I did.

The scary thing is I would google, find the code I submitted and copy that. Recently, I was testing a new versions of Qwen, it spit out my code, I posted on a forum, verbatim. I only noticed it because of an idiosyncratic method I used.

This made me laugh very hard, and also had me remembering learning to code pre-internet. You either lucked into a book or an expert to help you be less wrong, or you got to be wrong all on your own. At least now we get to be largely wrong together.

I’m a bit tired of this rhetoric, so many people, so many professionals as myself, my memory, even ternary operators and read and studied complex architectural patterns and made toy programming languages and compilers. Is a real craft being lost, ridiculously parodied every day.

Nothing helps to understand the system more than copying the answer from Stackiverflow, trying to fit it to your project, debugging all this mess and lots of trial and error.

That's why I like to say I am one of the rare ones who can pull the RFC and implement it. When I used StackOverflow, it was to answer people after solving a similar issue...when I had the time. I shared a lot of sources of VBFrance and CodesSources. Some people are sinks, others are sources. I was not a sink. Bonus:

Ai never was the issue, copy paster devs just became prompter devs

"no documentation"? why is that even a criteria? a spec is something someone makes up. I need documentation to make my code work to spec

I wanna show this to my oldhat programmer parents, but I do not dare because these fucking grognards 'coded' by perforating holes into cardboard squares to signifies 1s and 0s. I'd never hear the end of how good we grasshoppas had it with our fancy keyboards and persistent memory

You're constructing a false dichotomy between being able to code without external tools and relying on AI. Reading documentation is a skill and the people on stackoverflow either were involved in the project, read the documentation better, or brute force solved the problem.

I had a response but I forgot. @grok what was I going to write here?

This is a completely daft take. Actual programming still requires troubleshooting and some degree of capability to make the copy-pasted sections fit together. Vibe coding requires absolutely none of that

is she start coding before pre internet era or she is just part of Claude PR Team ??

No, I haven't done any of that. But then again, I'm also an amateur game dev and quite literally hate the idea of doing anything you've just said, so...

Yes, I have written an HTTP request by hand. Connect via telnet to port 80, type it out by hand. Remember to uppercase the HTTP method used. Press enter twice and then look at the raw response. Simple.

Whats wrong with u? Why thr hell i would write http request by hand if ai will do same shyt in 1 second? And why the f i would worry about the syntax? I built web apps, local python and c# .NET alls and all works fine, performs good and i just control the data structure thats all

Actually it does makes me stupid, I forget about software engineering altogether, because AI is a modern casino slot machine, you click and expect for the output reward.

Why do you have to call me out like that?! 😭

Yet, I started with basic and assembly but switching to c++ I had books and stack overflow. Beat that 😂

First code I ever wrote was on the commadore 64, I sat there for hours coping this code out of a book. at the end it made a ball and then had the ball move around the screen I was so proud of myself. Then I got into game genie hacking hex coding, then cheat engine, then writing bots for mmorpgs lol I Think the last language I learned/messed with was perl to replace html

Looks like projection to me. I have done HTTP requests by hand, that’s easy. Counter: Have you ever drawn a line of the screen by hand, one pixel at a time? I bet you used a draw line call every time.

This video has followed me from tiktok to Instagram and now X

I really can't decide if this is funny or motivational

This but unironically.

Do not buy into this. Coding is not just about mashing together googled snippets of code. It's a creative problem-solving process that rewards venturing into the unknown to find solutions. AI just spits out what it has learned, it should be the creative part what sets you apart.

I have written a mutex in assembly but do not want to do that again.

There is something to be said about skills degrading when you stop honing them, but the joke / burn is real 😂

Oh ai suck ass when it comes to creating things but it's so useful when you write your own object managing pipeline and just tell the Ai to create the bodies and stuff for it. HOURS SAVED of agonizing sql to object conversions

i have done this i dont recommend it it never worked