No Pre-Trib? Then God’s Judgment on Jesus Wasn’t Enough?

When someone asks, "No Pre-Trib? Then God’s Judgment on Jesus wasn’t enough?".... I believe there’s a misunderstanding at the heart of this question. The assumption here seems to be that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture is somehow connected to the sufficiency of Jesus’ sacrifice, but I personally don’t think that’s the case. First, let me say this clearly: Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross is absolutely enough. He bore the full weight of God’s wrath for sin on our behalf. In doing so, He secured for us forgiveness, reconciliation with God, & the promise of eternal life. This is the heart of the gospel, & it’s the foundation of our faith. The sufficiency of Christ’s atonement is not in question when we talk about the timing of the Rapture or the Tribulation. I think that he confusion comes when we try to equate God’s wrath during the Tribulation with the judgment that Jesus already bore on the cross. The Bible talks about two distinct types of judgment. The first is the judgment for sin, which Jesus already took upon Himself when He died on the cross. Because of Christ, we are forgiven, & for those who believe, there is no condemnation. This is clear in Scripture, those in Christ are justified before God, & the judgment for sin has been completely satisfied. Then the second type of judgment is the judgment on the world. The Tribulation, especially as described in books like Revelation, is a time when God's wrath is poured out upon a sinful, unbelieving world that has rejected Christ. This is a different kind of judgment than the one Jesus bore for our sins. This is not a judgment for believers; it’s a judgment on the world. And because of what Christ has already done, believers are not destined to face God’s final wrath. Instead, we are promised salvation from it. Regarding the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, people who hold to this view argue that since the Church is not destined for God’s wrath, we must be removed before the Tribulation. In this view, the Rapture is God’s way of sparing His people from the coming judgment. But the idea that God will take us out of the world before any suffering happens is not something the Bible explicitly promises. When we look at Jesus’ words in Matthew 24 & Mark 13, He doesn’t say that believers will be spared from tribulation before He returns. Instead, he tells His followers to endure & be faithful, even through difficult times. Jesus clearly says that the end will come after the Tribulation, not before. We should recognize that the Bible doesn’t say believers won’t suffer or face persecution. Suffering & persecution are part of the Christian life. Jesus warned His disciples that they would face trouble in this world, but He also promised He would be with them through it all. In Revelation, we see that many believers will experience persecution during the Tribulation, but they are not abandoned. They remain faithful, & they are comforted by God’s presence. What Jesus accomplished on the cross is more than enough for our salvation. But this doesn’t mean that believers will be spared from all suffering or tribulation in the end times. The Bible does not promise that we will be removed from the world’s troubles before Christ returns. Instead, we are called to endure through hardships, trusting that Christ has already overcome the world. Ultimately, the timing of the Rapture, whether before, during, or after the Tribulation, isn’t a reflection of whether Jesus’ sacrifice is sufficient NOR does it alter the heart of a believer in MY opinion. His sacrifice is fully sufficient. The Rapture is about God’s unfolding plan for dealing with sin, evil, & the ultimate redemption of His people. Regardless of when the Rapture occurs, Jesus’ sacrifice remains the complete answer to sin, & His wrath was poured out on Him, not on us. 🙏✝️🫶🫂

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That doesn't make sense.

This is the most incoherent Protestant babble I’ve ever heard

The Great tribulation isn't God's wrath. It's the devils. The wrath of God are the vial Judgements. The rapture precedes these. But after the Tribulation of those days.

“The anti-christ is the first judgement of the wrath of God.” This doesn’t make sense to me. In Rev 16 we have what we are told are the bowls of God’s wrath poured out on beast worshippers & his kingdom. Is God pouring out his wrath on his wrath? @soothkeep

The assumption is the tribulation itself is God's wrath. It's not. Christians are persecuted since the beginning. It got even worse in 20th century. Why would it stop at tribulation? No. The rapture will happen before the 7 bowls of God's wrath. But how far before then? Everything is theoretical until it happens.

Never mind that Messiah said “and after these things…” in Matthew but Paul confirms in 2 Thessalonians 2 that we won’t be caught up until AFTER the falling away & the man of sin takes his seat & proclaims himself god. Surely don’t think there won’t be much tribulation beforehand? We are told to endure to the end. Love you but y’all are so wrong on this. Plus, since Christ IS the last sacrifice Satan and his minions no longer have access to the Throne—they’ve been booted out of heaven since the ascension. We aren’t awaiting that to happen.

He has no idea what he’s talking about

Tribulation is not Gods wrath. Gods wrath is specifically the bowl judgements

I'm so glad God is ridding the Church of this weird theology. It had it's time and I'm glad it's dying. Dispensationalism will die within the next generation.