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Not really: Starlink is more attractive to countries without strong local telecoms. Here are some views on starlink & South Africa 🇿🇦. 1. ICASA- The country regulates and sells EMR spectrum like real estate, requiring companies to purchase or license spectrum before operating. You can’t/ shouldn’t just beam EMR...

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Kwena Molekwa2 years ago

Elon gave Zimbabwe Starlink just to spite us… The Zimbabwean government insisted on a local partner & he agreed. He refuses to agree to ICASA regulations. @elonmusk partners with locals in China and India but refuses to partner in South Africa here. We will not bullied by this. Our country's laws must be adhered to 🇿🇦

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Kgoshi Ya Lebowa2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk This is quite insightful. I was part of the mob that was attacking the government for blocking it but after reading this, I think I understand.

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🇷🇺 M⭕NWA ™2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk Eye opening Sandile, I thought we were being denied access to cheap internet to benefit amaqabane kaThambo.

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400cm.eth2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk All you xenophobic black SouthAfricans have very little knowledge and always spew that little knowledge as though you are an expert on the subject matter. So by your assertion, SA has better local telecoms than India and China?

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Mpho...2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk I know ChatGPT response when I see one but still valid. 😅

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joe schmoe2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk Starlink isnt really competing with local Telecom companies, though. Fiber/Fixed LTE/5G will always be more superior than starlink. Starlink is really for backup or for those living in remote rural areas where there just are no other alternatives.

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Norms2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 has and does all those things you mention herein and has just added Starlink to the mix....just to take care of the errant service providers who were fleecing consumers. Competition promotes proper price discovery!

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Soshangane ka Zikode2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk I wonder how you will spin this story when Starlink is eventually granted a license.

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Nelson Matya 🇿🇼🇺🇸2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk Ummm Starlink is in countries way better than SA with regards to your criteria. Namely, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Australia, New Zealand

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Louis Fromage2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk All extremely valid points! Starlink has its advantages in some areas but as an adjunct to existing services rather than a replacement. I live in a large city in USA and Starlink can’t compete with fiber and cable. But on a boat or out in the woods? Heck yes.

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400cm.eth2 years ago

@Miz_Ruraltarain @elonmusk The real productive SouthAfricans with 96% of the land and who work the farms not covered by fiber or telecom microwave signals, need Starlink. Only the lazy xenophobes, who can hardly afford it anyways, say that Starlink is not needed.

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TheNewsHawks

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