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Not sure why Christopher Nolan doesn't think the "Nobody" pun doesn't translate to modern dialogue. The Odyssey's "Nobody" pun might be nearly 3,000 years old yet remains one of the most famous literary tricks in human history. It holds up today because it is simultaneously a simple joke, linguistic...

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Odysseus wasn’t driven by destiny nearly as much as he was by his own ego. People keep saying he only challenged monsters because the gods forced his hand. I don’t buy it. Take the Cyclops. Yes, he was Poseidon’s son, but Odysseus didn’t know that. Most of the men in the cave never even heard Polyphemus reveal who his father was. As far as Odysseus was concerned, he was just another enemy. The moment the Cyclops spat out his helmet, Odysseus’ pride took over, and he fired back. Then there’s the Sirens. He already knew no one had ever survived hearing their song with open ears. A cautious leader would’ve avoided the risk. Odysseus did the opposite because he wanted to prove he could do what no one else had ever done. His greatest strength wasn’t wisdom. It was believing he could outsmart everyone—even fate itself. So was Odysseus truly a legendary hero… or was his ego the real villain of The Odyssey?
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Odysseus wasn’t driven by destiny nearly as much as he was by his own ego. People keep saying he only challenged monsters because the gods forced his hand. I don’t buy it. Take the Cyclops. Yes, he was Poseidon’s son, but Odysseus didn’t know that. Most of the men in the cave never even heard Polyphemus reveal who his father was. As far as Odysseus was concerned, he was just another enemy. The moment the Cyclops spat out his helmet, Odysseus’ pride took over, and he fired back. Then there’s the Sirens. He already knew no one had ever survived hearing their song with open ears. A cautious leader would’ve avoided the risk. Odysseus did the opposite because he wanted to prove he could do what no one else had ever done. His greatest strength wasn’t wisdom. It was believing he could outsmart everyone—even fate itself. So was Odysseus truly a legendary hero… or was his ego the real villain of The Odyssey?

Luminous leads

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One of the Odyssey's most important lessons comes when Odysseus and his men encounter the Cyclops Polyphemus. At first the situation does not seem dangerous. They land on an island, discover a large cave filled with food and livestock, and begin helping themselves. Odysseus says they should stay and wait for the owner of the cave, because he expects the man to follow the Greek custom of hospitality. In the ancient world a traveler could rely on that custom almost anywhere. Instead, something very different happens. When Polyphemus returns, he blocks the entrance to the cave with a massive stone and begins asking questions. Odysseus explains that they are travellers and reminds him of the sacred duty to treat guests well. Polyphemus laughs at the idea, and tells Odysseus that Cyclopes care not for the gods or their laws. Then he reaches down, grabs two of Odysseus's men, smashes them against the ground, and eats them. The true horror of the scene is the calm way in which Homer describes it. Polyphemus eats the men as casually as someone might eat bread and cheese. Odysseus has wandered into a world where the rules of civilization no longer apply. Now Odysseus faces a serious problem. He cannot simply kill the Cyclops, because the stone blocking the entrance is so large that only Polyphemus himself can move it. If the giant dies, everyone in the cave will remain trapped there forever. The next evening Polyphemus returns again and devours two more men. This time, Odysseus offers him wine that he brought from the ship. The Cyclops has never tasted wine before and drinks it greedily. When Polyphemus asks for Odysseus' name, Odysseus gives one of the cleverest answers in all of literature: he tells the giant that his name is "Nobody." The wine soon takes effect. Polyphemus collapses into a drunken sleep, and Odysseus and his men put their plan into motion. They sharpen a massive wooden stake, heat it in the fire until it glows, and then drive it straight into the Cyclops' single eye. Homer describes the sound of the burning wood hissing inside the eye like iron plunged into cold water. Polyphemus screams so loudly that the other Cyclopes come running to the cave and ask what is wrong. The giant shouts that "Nobody" is attacking him. Hearing this, the other Cyclopes assume he must be sick or mad, and they leave him alone. In the morning, Polyphemus rolls the stone away from the entrance so his sheep can leave the cave. He runs his hands over their backs to make sure the men are not escaping. What he does not realize is that Odysseus has tied each man underneath the sheep, hanging beneath their woolly bellies. The animals walk out of the cave and carry the Greeks with them. It is a brilliant escape, but Odysseus makes one mistake. Once the ship has sailed safely away, he cannot resist shouting back at the Cyclops. He reveals his real name and boasts about what he has done. Polyphemus then prays to his father, the sea god Poseidon, asking him to punish Odysseus for the injury. That single moment of pride ends up shaping the rest of the Odyssey. Poseidon hears the prayer, and from that point on the sea itself seems determined to keep Odysseus from ever reaching home. His intelligence saves him and his men from certain death, but his pride creates new dangers that follow him for years. Even the cleverest man can ruin his own victory if he cannot resist the temptation to pride... --- Join our online book club and study the classics with us! We are working through the great texts of the Western canon, including the Homeric epics: To preserve a culture, you must continually study the books and ideas that created it. If the schools and universities won't teach the great books of the West, we will do it ourselves... We are an independent group funded ENTIRELY by the members of this community. If you'd like to support us, please consider a paid membership. You'll get: - Live book club discussions (biweekly) - Essays to guide you through the books we're reading - The full archive of discussions and essays - Access to the community chat room See you inside!
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One of the Odyssey's most important lessons comes when Odysseus and his men encounter the Cyclops Polyphemus. At first the situation does not seem dangerous. They land on an island, discover a large cave filled with food and livestock, and begin helping themselves. Odysseus says they should stay and wait for the owner of the cave, because he expects the man to follow the Greek custom of hospitality. In the ancient world a traveler could rely on that custom almost anywhere. Instead, something very different happens. When Polyphemus returns, he blocks the entrance to the cave with a massive stone and begins asking questions. Odysseus explains that they are travellers and reminds him of the sacred duty to treat guests well. Polyphemus laughs at the idea, and tells Odysseus that Cyclopes care not for the gods or their laws. Then he reaches down, grabs two of Odysseus's men, smashes them against the ground, and eats them. The true horror of the scene is the calm way in which Homer describes it. Polyphemus eats the men as casually as someone might eat bread and cheese. Odysseus has wandered into a world where the rules of civilization no longer apply. Now Odysseus faces a serious problem. He cannot simply kill the Cyclops, because the stone blocking the entrance is so large that only Polyphemus himself can move it. If the giant dies, everyone in the cave will remain trapped there forever. The next evening Polyphemus returns again and devours two more men. This time, Odysseus offers him wine that he brought from the ship. The Cyclops has never tasted wine before and drinks it greedily. When Polyphemus asks for Odysseus' name, Odysseus gives one of the cleverest answers in all of literature: he tells the giant that his name is "Nobody." The wine soon takes effect. Polyphemus collapses into a drunken sleep, and Odysseus and his men put their plan into motion. They sharpen a massive wooden stake, heat it in the fire until it glows, and then drive it straight into the Cyclops' single eye. Homer describes the sound of the burning wood hissing inside the eye like iron plunged into cold water. Polyphemus screams so loudly that the other Cyclopes come running to the cave and ask what is wrong. The giant shouts that "Nobody" is attacking him. Hearing this, the other Cyclopes assume he must be sick or mad, and they leave him alone. In the morning, Polyphemus rolls the stone away from the entrance so his sheep can leave the cave. He runs his hands over their backs to make sure the men are not escaping. What he does not realize is that Odysseus has tied each man underneath the sheep, hanging beneath their woolly bellies. The animals walk out of the cave and carry the Greeks with them. It is a brilliant escape, but Odysseus makes one mistake. Once the ship has sailed safely away, he cannot resist shouting back at the Cyclops. He reveals his real name and boasts about what he has done. Polyphemus then prays to his father, the sea god Poseidon, asking him to punish Odysseus for the injury. That single moment of pride ends up shaping the rest of the Odyssey. Poseidon hears the prayer, and from that point on the sea itself seems determined to keep Odysseus from ever reaching home. His intelligence saves him and his men from certain death, but his pride creates new dangers that follow him for years. Even the cleverest man can ruin his own victory if he cannot resist the temptation to pride... --- Join our online book club and study the classics with us! We are working through the great texts of the Western canon, including the Homeric epics: To preserve a culture, you must continually study the books and ideas that created it. If the schools and universities won't teach the great books of the West, we will do it ourselves... We are an independent group funded ENTIRELY by the members of this community. If you'd like to support us, please consider a paid membership. You'll get: - Live book club discussions (biweekly) - Essays to guide you through the books we're reading - The full archive of discussions and essays - Access to the community chat room See you inside!

Athenaeum Book Club

443,183 görüntüleme • 3 ay önce

Asmongold destroys the Odyssey's hospitality theme in real time "Everything about the story is not this. The impulse of the story they're literally sailing across the ocean to steal a bitch back. They raid a city, kill everybody in the city." "Odysseus goes into Polyfemos, the Cyclops, Poseidon's half son, and stabs his eye out. Oh yeah, let's let the stranger in this time. The guy was going to eat him." "Then there's one hoe that keeps trying to brainwash Odysseus. Then he gets back to his own house, there's a bunch of foreigners there, and he had to kill them all." "Hospitality is like the last value in the Odyssey. Of all the values, that's at the bottom."
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Asmongold destroys the Odyssey's hospitality theme in real time "Everything about the story is not this. The impulse of the story they're literally sailing across the ocean to steal a bitch back. They raid a city, kill everybody in the city." "Odysseus goes into Polyfemos, the Cyclops, Poseidon's half son, and stabs his eye out. Oh yeah, let's let the stranger in this time. The guy was going to eat him." "Then there's one hoe that keeps trying to brainwash Odysseus. Then he gets back to his own house, there's a bunch of foreigners there, and he had to kill them all." "Hospitality is like the last value in the Odyssey. Of all the values, that's at the bottom."

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Odysseus weeps like a woman when he hears stories about the Trojan horse. Why? At the Phaeacian court, still under disguise, Odysseus listens to a bard sing of the Greek victory at Troy, specifically of his genius with the Trojan horse. This should have been his moment of great glory. It is the ambition of every hero to be immortalized in song. And yet, Odysseus does not glory but instead begins to cry. Nolan’s Odysseus is ashamed of the Trojan horse, but not Homer’s Odysseus who revels in his trickster identity. So why does he weep? Homer’s answer is a lot deeper and darker than Nolan’s. Homer describes Odysseus crying like a woman who has collapsed over her dying husband’s body as her city is sacked and she is about to be dragged off to slavery when he hears of the Trojan horse. The brilliance of this simile is that the sacker of the city is compared to a victim of the sacking. My guest Harvard’s Gregory Nagy will break down this critical scene and what Odysseus’ crying has to teach us about the genre of epic.
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Odysseus weeps like a woman when he hears stories about the Trojan horse. Why? At the Phaeacian court, still under disguise, Odysseus listens to a bard sing of the Greek victory at Troy, specifically of his genius with the Trojan horse. This should have been his moment of great glory. It is the ambition of every hero to be immortalized in song. And yet, Odysseus does not glory but instead begins to cry. Nolan’s Odysseus is ashamed of the Trojan horse, but not Homer’s Odysseus who revels in his trickster identity. So why does he weep? Homer’s answer is a lot deeper and darker than Nolan’s. Homer describes Odysseus crying like a woman who has collapsed over her dying husband’s body as her city is sacked and she is about to be dragged off to slavery when he hears of the Trojan horse. The brilliance of this simile is that the sacker of the city is compared to a victim of the sacking. My guest Harvard’s Gregory Nagy will break down this critical scene and what Odysseus’ crying has to teach us about the genre of epic.

Johnathan Bi

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A powerful scene in the Odyssey comes when Odysseus finally returns to Ithaca after twenty years of war and wandering. You'd expect the story to end with a great celebration: with the hero coming home and the family reunited. Homer does something far stranger. Odysseus arrives disguised as a beggar, because Athena warns him that the palace has been taken over by more than a hundred suitors who have been living there for years, eating his food, drinking his wine, and pressuring his wife Penelope to marry one of them. They believe Odysseus is dead and in their minds the kingdom is already theirs. So the king of Ithaca walks through his own halls dressed in rags while the men stealing his house sit comfortably at his tables. They mock him, throw scraps at him, and one of them even strikes him, and Odysseus takes it. The same man who blinded the Cyclops now stands quietly while strangers insult him in his own home. Homer tells us his heart burns inside his chest and that he wants to attack them immediately, yet he restrains himself and waits. Instead of striking, Odysseus studies the room carefully. He counts the men, watches their habits, and observes which servants remain loyal and which have betrayed him. He delays his revenge until the moment is right. Eventually Penelope announces a contest and brings out Odysseus' great bow, declaring that she will marry the man who can string it and shoot an arrow through twelve axe heads lined up in a row. One by one the suitors try and fail, because none of them can even bend the bow. Then the beggar asks for a turn. The suitors laugh at first, but the bow is eventually handed to him. Odysseus takes it in his hands and strings it effortlessly. Homer says the sound of the bowstring tightening rings through the hall like the note of a swallow. Then he places an arrow on the string and sends it cleanly through all twelve axe heads. In that moment the beggar disappears. Odysseus turns the bow toward the suitors and reveals who he is. What follows is one of the most brutal scenes in Greek literature. The doors are sealed and the suitors realize too late that they are trapped inside the hall. Odysseus, his son Telemachus, and two loyal servants begin killing them one by one. There is no escape and no negotiation. The men who spent years consuming another man's house die inside it. It is a violent ending, but Homer wants you to understand something important. The real danger to Odysseus was never just the monsters and storms along the journey. It was the possibility that someone else might take his place while he was gone. When Odysseus finally returns, he reminds everyone in Ithaca of a simple truth: A man's home is never truly his unless he is willing to fight for it. --- Join our online book club and study the classics with us! We are working through the great texts of the Western canon, including the Homeric epics: To preserve a culture, you must continually study the books and ideas that created it. If the schools and universities won't teach the great books of the West, we will do it ourselves... We are an independent group funded ENTIRELY by the members of this community. If you'd like to support us, please consider a paid membership. You'll get: - Live book club discussions (biweekly) - Essays to guide you through the books we're reading - The full archive of discussions and essays - Access to the community chat room See you inside!
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A powerful scene in the Odyssey comes when Odysseus finally returns to Ithaca after twenty years of war and wandering. You'd expect the story to end with a great celebration: with the hero coming home and the family reunited. Homer does something far stranger. Odysseus arrives disguised as a beggar, because Athena warns him that the palace has been taken over by more than a hundred suitors who have been living there for years, eating his food, drinking his wine, and pressuring his wife Penelope to marry one of them. They believe Odysseus is dead and in their minds the kingdom is already theirs. So the king of Ithaca walks through his own halls dressed in rags while the men stealing his house sit comfortably at his tables. They mock him, throw scraps at him, and one of them even strikes him, and Odysseus takes it. The same man who blinded the Cyclops now stands quietly while strangers insult him in his own home. Homer tells us his heart burns inside his chest and that he wants to attack them immediately, yet he restrains himself and waits. Instead of striking, Odysseus studies the room carefully. He counts the men, watches their habits, and observes which servants remain loyal and which have betrayed him. He delays his revenge until the moment is right. Eventually Penelope announces a contest and brings out Odysseus' great bow, declaring that she will marry the man who can string it and shoot an arrow through twelve axe heads lined up in a row. One by one the suitors try and fail, because none of them can even bend the bow. Then the beggar asks for a turn. The suitors laugh at first, but the bow is eventually handed to him. Odysseus takes it in his hands and strings it effortlessly. Homer says the sound of the bowstring tightening rings through the hall like the note of a swallow. Then he places an arrow on the string and sends it cleanly through all twelve axe heads. In that moment the beggar disappears. Odysseus turns the bow toward the suitors and reveals who he is. What follows is one of the most brutal scenes in Greek literature. The doors are sealed and the suitors realize too late that they are trapped inside the hall. Odysseus, his son Telemachus, and two loyal servants begin killing them one by one. There is no escape and no negotiation. The men who spent years consuming another man's house die inside it. It is a violent ending, but Homer wants you to understand something important. The real danger to Odysseus was never just the monsters and storms along the journey. It was the possibility that someone else might take his place while he was gone. When Odysseus finally returns, he reminds everyone in Ithaca of a simple truth: A man's home is never truly his unless he is willing to fight for it. --- Join our online book club and study the classics with us! We are working through the great texts of the Western canon, including the Homeric epics: To preserve a culture, you must continually study the books and ideas that created it. If the schools and universities won't teach the great books of the West, we will do it ourselves... We are an independent group funded ENTIRELY by the members of this community. If you'd like to support us, please consider a paid membership. You'll get: - Live book club discussions (biweekly) - Essays to guide you through the books we're reading - The full archive of discussions and essays - Access to the community chat room See you inside!

Athenaeum Book Club

357,439 görüntüleme • 3 ay önce

Odysseus was away from his home for 20 years, ten years fighting in the Trojan War and ten more years struggling at sea before being "washed ashore" in Ithaca, at his home. After everything he endured, he returned to Ithaca alone, aged, weary, burdened with suffering and sorrow, and unrecognizable to everyone. Dressed in rags so no one would recognize him, he was accompanied by Eumaeus, the swineherd, who also did not recognize him. As they approached the palace, Odysseus saw Argos, his beloved dog and friend who had missed him during his time in Ilion (Troy), now in a very miserable state. Homer describes Argos as covered in ticks, neglected, lying still as if waiting for something - his death - but not quite ready yet. A brief conversation takes place over Argos between Odysseus and Eumaeus, after which Odysseus enters the hall with the suitors. Now, Argos is ready to die. He can finally take his last breath, as the moment he had waited for over 20 years had arrived, he saw his best friend one last time. His longing and hope for the return of his master had kept him alive for 20 whole years. Only Argos recognized him! The hero Odysseus, deeply moved, could not hold back a tear, which he secretly wiped away so that Eumaeus wouldn’t see it and suspect something. (“νόσφιν απομόρξατο δάκρυ” “he secretly wiped away his tear.”) Homer writes: Rhapsody ρ, Line 290 Thus they were speaking to each other, But the dog, lying down, lifted his head and ears; Argos, Odysseus’ faithful dog, whom he once raised but never got to enjoy, as Odysseus left early for sacred Ilion (Troy). 295. ...lying in a pile of dung spilled in front of the gates by mules and cattle, which the servants took to fertilize Odysseus' estate. 300. There Argos lay, full of ticks. The moment he sensed Odysseus near him, he wagged his tail and lowered both ears, but he couldn’t get up to reach him. Odysseus saw him from afar and secretly wiped away his tear so Eumaeus wouldn’t notice, and then he asked him: 305. “A wonder, this dog, Eumaeus, lying in the manure. He is good in body, but I’m not sure if he’s as swift as he is beautiful, or if he’s one of those table-fed dogs of men, kept only as an ornament by lords.” 325. As he said this, he entered the well-built house and went straight into the hall with the shining suitors. And the fate of black death seized Argos, immediately after he saw Odysseus for the first time in twenty years ... ----- Homer Pavlos✍️
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Odysseus was away from his home for 20 years, ten years fighting in the Trojan War and ten more years struggling at sea before being "washed ashore" in Ithaca, at his home. After everything he endured, he returned to Ithaca alone, aged, weary, burdened with suffering and sorrow, and unrecognizable to everyone. Dressed in rags so no one would recognize him, he was accompanied by Eumaeus, the swineherd, who also did not recognize him. As they approached the palace, Odysseus saw Argos, his beloved dog and friend who had missed him during his time in Ilion (Troy), now in a very miserable state. Homer describes Argos as covered in ticks, neglected, lying still as if waiting for something - his death - but not quite ready yet. A brief conversation takes place over Argos between Odysseus and Eumaeus, after which Odysseus enters the hall with the suitors. Now, Argos is ready to die. He can finally take his last breath, as the moment he had waited for over 20 years had arrived, he saw his best friend one last time. His longing and hope for the return of his master had kept him alive for 20 whole years. Only Argos recognized him! The hero Odysseus, deeply moved, could not hold back a tear, which he secretly wiped away so that Eumaeus wouldn’t see it and suspect something. (“νόσφιν απομόρξατο δάκρυ” “he secretly wiped away his tear.”) Homer writes: Rhapsody ρ, Line 290 Thus they were speaking to each other, But the dog, lying down, lifted his head and ears; Argos, Odysseus’ faithful dog, whom he once raised but never got to enjoy, as Odysseus left early for sacred Ilion (Troy). 295. ...lying in a pile of dung spilled in front of the gates by mules and cattle, which the servants took to fertilize Odysseus' estate. 300. There Argos lay, full of ticks. The moment he sensed Odysseus near him, he wagged his tail and lowered both ears, but he couldn’t get up to reach him. Odysseus saw him from afar and secretly wiped away his tear so Eumaeus wouldn’t notice, and then he asked him: 305. “A wonder, this dog, Eumaeus, lying in the manure. He is good in body, but I’m not sure if he’s as swift as he is beautiful, or if he’s one of those table-fed dogs of men, kept only as an ornament by lords.” 325. As he said this, he entered the well-built house and went straight into the hall with the shining suitors. And the fate of black death seized Argos, immediately after he saw Odysseus for the first time in twenty years ... ----- Homer Pavlos✍️

Homer Pavlos

2,633,317 görüntüleme • 9 ay önce

What the names “Odysseus” and “Achilles” mean is fascinating. It reveals the terrifying reality of what a Greek hero is. • Achilles can be read as ἄχος (grief) + λαός (fighting men) = grief of the fighting men. • We are told that Odysseus is given the name by his grandfather from ὀδύσσομαι (to hate) = Mr. Hatred. • The non-ionic pronunciation from which we get Ulysses sounds like οὐλή (scar) which is of course the defining physical feature by which Odysseus is identified. (These are all “folk” etymologies) The Greek hero is a man of pain and suffering. They cause enormous pain to their rivals: Achilles to Hector and Agamemnon; Odysseus to the Trojans, suitors, and cyclops. But they also cause enormous pain to their friends: Achilles to the Achaeans; Odysseus to his family and the Phaeacians. Lastly, they cause enormous pain to themselves: both lives are riddled with suffering. While both heroes are men of pain and suffering they are also clearly different. Wily Odysseus is a different archetype than godlike Achilles. So who is the greater hero? That’s what I try to answer in this video essay filmed in Ithaca.
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What the names “Odysseus” and “Achilles” mean is fascinating. It reveals the terrifying reality of what a Greek hero is. • Achilles can be read as ἄχος (grief) + λαός (fighting men) = grief of the fighting men. • We are told that Odysseus is given the name by his grandfather from ὀδύσσομαι (to hate) = Mr. Hatred. • The non-ionic pronunciation from which we get Ulysses sounds like οὐλή (scar) which is of course the defining physical feature by which Odysseus is identified. (These are all “folk” etymologies) The Greek hero is a man of pain and suffering. They cause enormous pain to their rivals: Achilles to Hector and Agamemnon; Odysseus to the Trojans, suitors, and cyclops. But they also cause enormous pain to their friends: Achilles to the Achaeans; Odysseus to his family and the Phaeacians. Lastly, they cause enormous pain to themselves: both lives are riddled with suffering. While both heroes are men of pain and suffering they are also clearly different. Wily Odysseus is a different archetype than godlike Achilles. So who is the greater hero? That’s what I try to answer in this video essay filmed in Ithaca.

Johnathan Bi

532,898 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

The greatest warrior who ever lived was told, after his death, that he should be happy. His answer is one of the most devastating things ever written... Achilles had been given a choice while alive: a long, quiet, forgotten life at home, or a short one at Troy that would make his name immortal. He chose glory. He chose to die young and be remembered forever. In the Odyssey, Odysseus goes down into the land of the dead, and Achilles comes to meet him. Odysseus tries to comfort him. He tells him he has nothing to mourn: "For of old, when thou wast alive, we Argives honored thee even as the gods, and now that thou art here, thou rulest mightily among the dead. Wherefore grieve not at all that thou art dead, Achilles." You are the most blessed man who ever lived, he says. You were worshipped in life, and now you are a king among the dead. What is there to grieve? Achilles answers immediately: "Nay, seek not to speak soothingly to me of death, glorious Odysseus. I should choose, so I might live on earth, to serve as the hireling of another, of some portionless man whose livelihood was but small, rather than to be lord over all the dead that have perished." He would rather be a day labourer, working someone else's field, for a master so poor he can barely feed him. He would take that life over ruling every soul that ever died... Achilles chose to die young so that his name would live forever. And then, in the Odyssey, Homer let him speak from the other side of that choice. And this is his answer, to Odysseus and to us: being remembered is not the same as being alive. And the ordinary day you are living right now is the thing the greatest hero in the world would trade eternity to have back.
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The greatest warrior who ever lived was told, after his death, that he should be happy. His answer is one of the most devastating things ever written... Achilles had been given a choice while alive: a long, quiet, forgotten life at home, or a short one at Troy that would make his name immortal. He chose glory. He chose to die young and be remembered forever. In the Odyssey, Odysseus goes down into the land of the dead, and Achilles comes to meet him. Odysseus tries to comfort him. He tells him he has nothing to mourn: "For of old, when thou wast alive, we Argives honored thee even as the gods, and now that thou art here, thou rulest mightily among the dead. Wherefore grieve not at all that thou art dead, Achilles." You are the most blessed man who ever lived, he says. You were worshipped in life, and now you are a king among the dead. What is there to grieve? Achilles answers immediately: "Nay, seek not to speak soothingly to me of death, glorious Odysseus. I should choose, so I might live on earth, to serve as the hireling of another, of some portionless man whose livelihood was but small, rather than to be lord over all the dead that have perished." He would rather be a day labourer, working someone else's field, for a master so poor he can barely feed him. He would take that life over ruling every soul that ever died... Achilles chose to die young so that his name would live forever. And then, in the Odyssey, Homer let him speak from the other side of that choice. And this is his answer, to Odysseus and to us: being remembered is not the same as being alive. And the ordinary day you are living right now is the thing the greatest hero in the world would trade eternity to have back.

James Lucas

837,944 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

Christopher Nolan spent 12 days filming The Odyssey in Iceland. He used black sands near Hjörleifshöfði to build his Hades. He wanted the cold to mirror how far Odysseus had drifted from home. The landscape is stunning. But Nolan's biggest change to Homer isn't a mountain range. It's what happens inside Odysseus. In Homer, Odysseus tricks his way into Troy and spends the rest of the poem bragging about it. There is no apology. The Greeks called this kleos: glory earned by being good at what you did, not by feeling guilty after. Nolan's Odysseus, by early reports, treats that same trick as a wound to confess. Twenty-eight centuries of the story working one way, and 2026 wants it to run backward. My new piece breaks down why, and why Gladiator II made the exact same mistake in 2024. Every generation thinks the world is ending. It never is. Join our community of historical optimists as we prove the doomscroll wrong. 3 history essays weekly. Follow me on X: Joseph Pickett Subscribe on Substack:
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Christopher Nolan spent 12 days filming The Odyssey in Iceland. He used black sands near Hjörleifshöfði to build his Hades. He wanted the cold to mirror how far Odysseus had drifted from home. The landscape is stunning. But Nolan's biggest change to Homer isn't a mountain range. It's what happens inside Odysseus. In Homer, Odysseus tricks his way into Troy and spends the rest of the poem bragging about it. There is no apology. The Greeks called this kleos: glory earned by being good at what you did, not by feeling guilty after. Nolan's Odysseus, by early reports, treats that same trick as a wound to confess. Twenty-eight centuries of the story working one way, and 2026 wants it to run backward. My new piece breaks down why, and why Gladiator II made the exact same mistake in 2024. Every generation thinks the world is ending. It never is. Join our community of historical optimists as we prove the doomscroll wrong. 3 history essays weekly. Follow me on X: Joseph Pickett Subscribe on Substack:

Joseph Pickett

62,446 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

This painting shows the most heartbreaking reunion in all of literature. To understand it, you have to know who the dog is... His name is Argos, and he belongs to Ulysses, the Greek hero also known as Odysseus. Before Ulysses sailed away to fight in the Trojan War, he had raised Argos from a puppy, a fast and beautiful hunting dog. Then the war called, and Ulysses left. He would not come home for twenty years. When Ulysses finally set foot on his own island again, he came in disguise, dressed as a beggar, so that no one would know him. His house was full of men trying to steal his wife and his kingdom. To survive, he had to remain a stranger in his own home. No one recognized him. Not his loyal servants. Not the people who had known him all his life. But lying in the dirt by the gate, old and forgotten, covered in ticks, too weak to stand, was a dog. Argos had waited twenty years. And the moment he saw him, he knew. He was the only one. Nearly blind, half dead, he lifted his head and pricked up his ears, and he wagged his tail for the master he had never stopped waiting for. Ulysses saw him. And because he was in disguise, surrounded by enemies, he could not run to him, could not kneel down, could not say his name. He could only look at his old friend and, turning his face away so no one would see, let a single tear fall. And then, in Homer's own words, "the dark shadow of death closed down on Argos' eyes, the instant he had seen Odysseus, twenty years away." He had held on to life for one reason only: he was waiting to see him come home. And the moment he did, he could finally let go... It is such a beautiful painting, and the look on that dog's face is so universal, so instantly understood by anyone who has ever loved and waited, that it is enough to bring a grown man to tears.
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This painting shows the most heartbreaking reunion in all of literature. To understand it, you have to know who the dog is... His name is Argos, and he belongs to Ulysses, the Greek hero also known as Odysseus. Before Ulysses sailed away to fight in the Trojan War, he had raised Argos from a puppy, a fast and beautiful hunting dog. Then the war called, and Ulysses left. He would not come home for twenty years. When Ulysses finally set foot on his own island again, he came in disguise, dressed as a beggar, so that no one would know him. His house was full of men trying to steal his wife and his kingdom. To survive, he had to remain a stranger in his own home. No one recognized him. Not his loyal servants. Not the people who had known him all his life. But lying in the dirt by the gate, old and forgotten, covered in ticks, too weak to stand, was a dog. Argos had waited twenty years. And the moment he saw him, he knew. He was the only one. Nearly blind, half dead, he lifted his head and pricked up his ears, and he wagged his tail for the master he had never stopped waiting for. Ulysses saw him. And because he was in disguise, surrounded by enemies, he could not run to him, could not kneel down, could not say his name. He could only look at his old friend and, turning his face away so no one would see, let a single tear fall. And then, in Homer's own words, "the dark shadow of death closed down on Argos' eyes, the instant he had seen Odysseus, twenty years away." He had held on to life for one reason only: he was waiting to see him come home. And the moment he did, he could finally let go... It is such a beautiful painting, and the look on that dog's face is so universal, so instantly understood by anyone who has ever loved and waited, that it is enough to bring a grown man to tears.

James Lucas

107,315 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

Gm! I am super excited to announce that my entry, "The Hymn of Odysseus," won the contest by Laurence Fuller on @TheBlockBookapp . There were a lot of amazing entries and I didn't imagine I would have a chance, it is a great pleasure for me to be chosen ♥️ "The Hymn of Odysseus" Is made fully with AI, including the song and lyrics. It is about the journey Odysseus takes from Troy to Itacha, his hometown. He faces challenges, which he ultimately overcomes.
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Gm! I am super excited to announce that my entry, "The Hymn of Odysseus," won the contest by Laurence Fuller on @TheBlockBookapp . There were a lot of amazing entries and I didn't imagine I would have a chance, it is a great pleasure for me to be chosen ♥️ "The Hymn of Odysseus" Is made fully with AI, including the song and lyrics. It is about the journey Odysseus takes from Troy to Itacha, his hometown. He faces challenges, which he ultimately overcomes.

Saeed

28,997 görüntüleme • 1 yıl önce

Finesse2Tymes hopped on Live and let the whole clip fly at Offset after that post-and-delete, calling him out for constant Story shots, blocking everybody in the family, and trying to push a narrative that he says just ain’t real. 🔥 He doubled down that nobody ever “took nothing” from him, nobody ever pressed him in person, and every issue folks bring up about him only happens on the internet — never in real life. He even brought up Offset’s situation with his kids and baby mama, saying he’s out here fighting just to see his, while Offset is “suing his.” From one-on-one talk to Houston/Texas warnings to even saying he’d catch him “at Disney World,” Finesse made it clear he’s done with the subliminals and wants his name kept out the games. ⚠️💬 This back-and-forth heating up fast — who y’all think took it too far first, Finesse or Offset? 👀🔥
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Finesse2Tymes hopped on Live and let the whole clip fly at Offset after that post-and-delete, calling him out for constant Story shots, blocking everybody in the family, and trying to push a narrative that he says just ain’t real. 🔥 He doubled down that nobody ever “took nothing” from him, nobody ever pressed him in person, and every issue folks bring up about him only happens on the internet — never in real life. He even brought up Offset’s situation with his kids and baby mama, saying he’s out here fighting just to see his, while Offset is “suing his.” From one-on-one talk to Houston/Texas warnings to even saying he’d catch him “at Disney World,” Finesse made it clear he’s done with the subliminals and wants his name kept out the games. ⚠️💬 This back-and-forth heating up fast — who y’all think took it too far first, Finesse or Offset? 👀🔥

Traps N Trunks

104,835 görüntüleme • 9 ay önce

I just watched a video by Charleston White… and for once, he said something that hits every man in his bones. A man can give everything he has… his strength, his youth, his peace, his labor, his sanity… and he will stay invisible until the day he dies. As long as he’s perfect, nobody sees him. The bills get paid… nobody sees him. The house stays standing… nobody sees him. He keeps danger off the family… nobody sees him. He wakes up exhausted and still gives more… nobody sees him. He becomes visible only when something goes wrong. That’s the truth men live with… and it’s the truth nobody wants to confront because it exposes the spiritual rot in this culture. And here’s the hard part… This wasn’t always the way. Families used to honor men. Communities used to respect men. Faith used to center men. A man’s sacrifice meant something. Democrats shattered that world. They built a culture where the man is disposable… replaceable… irrelevant. They taught women they don’t need men… they taught children to distrust men… they taught courts to punish men… they taught society to ignore men until they fail. They turned the Black man into a workhorse with no gratitude and no covering. A ghost in his own house. That’s how a man can die after a lifetime of sacrifice… and nobody even knows his name. But here’s the part that shakes the soul… God sees him. The Almighty knows the weight he carries. He knows every night the man went to sleep wondering if he still mattered. He knows every moment that man swallowed his own pain to hold up the people he loves. Men aren’t asking to be worshiped. They’re asking to be seen. If men are “privileged,” then why does the world only notice them when they break? #SilentMajoritySpeaks #AStoneGroove
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I just watched a video by Charleston White… and for once, he said something that hits every man in his bones. A man can give everything he has… his strength, his youth, his peace, his labor, his sanity… and he will stay invisible until the day he dies. As long as he’s perfect, nobody sees him. The bills get paid… nobody sees him. The house stays standing… nobody sees him. He keeps danger off the family… nobody sees him. He wakes up exhausted and still gives more… nobody sees him. He becomes visible only when something goes wrong. That’s the truth men live with… and it’s the truth nobody wants to confront because it exposes the spiritual rot in this culture. And here’s the hard part… This wasn’t always the way. Families used to honor men. Communities used to respect men. Faith used to center men. A man’s sacrifice meant something. Democrats shattered that world. They built a culture where the man is disposable… replaceable… irrelevant. They taught women they don’t need men… they taught children to distrust men… they taught courts to punish men… they taught society to ignore men until they fail. They turned the Black man into a workhorse with no gratitude and no covering. A ghost in his own house. That’s how a man can die after a lifetime of sacrifice… and nobody even knows his name. But here’s the part that shakes the soul… God sees him. The Almighty knows the weight he carries. He knows every night the man went to sleep wondering if he still mattered. He knows every moment that man swallowed his own pain to hold up the people he loves. Men aren’t asking to be worshiped. They’re asking to be seen. If men are “privileged,” then why does the world only notice them when they break? #SilentMajoritySpeaks #AStoneGroove

A Gene Robinson

48,667 görüntüleme • 9 ay önce

Odysseus isn't really a hero, a progressive 2017 translation implies. But he is, and the moral of his story is in part about the importance of property rights, which are foundational to Western civilization. Little wonder, then, that the academic Left wages war on "The Odyssey."
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Odysseus isn't really a hero, a progressive 2017 translation implies. But he is, and the moral of his story is in part about the importance of property rights, which are foundational to Western civilization. Little wonder, then, that the academic Left wages war on "The Odyssey."

Michael Shellenberger

165,185 görüntüleme • 3 ay önce

What happens to Odysseus after the Odyssey? Can you imagine him just settling down in Ithaca after 20 years of warring and wandering? No notable “sequel” tells of such a happily ever after. Some say he rejects domestic life and abandons Penelope and Telemachus for more adventures. Some say he ends up marrying the Queen of Thesprotia and is mistakenly killed by his own son. Some say he sails into the Atlantic and drowns as he is about to reach Mount Purgatory. I became fascinated with Odysseus’ ending because I too am a wanderer. I have not settled down romantically. I am a seeker when it comes to religion. I am constantly travelling. And unlike Odysseus, I don’t even have a single Ithaca to return to having grown up between worlds. By asking the question, “Will Odysseus ever settle down?” I wanted to figure out if and how I will be able to settle down. The interesting philosophical question is this: is wandering good? And, if not, how does one stop wandering? The common advice is to quit “cold turkey,” but what if you should accelerate your way out? For example, Odysseus had sex with two divinely beautiful goddesses for eight years before he was ready to go back to his wife. Remember that he wanted to stay longer than a year with Circe and had to be convinced by his crew. And Homer tells us that at the end of the seven-year stay with Calypso, the nymph was “no longer pleasing to him,” implying that she initially was (Homer’s Odysseus is much more lustful than Nolan’s). What if that’s what the wanderer should do in all circumstances: indulge in hedonism until you see the limits of pleasure; make so much money that you cure yourself of avarice; become famous to rid yourself of vanity. What if you should indulge in things most people would say are completely out of bounds but still come out unscathed on the other side by tying yourself tightly to the mast? These questions around “what ought the wanderer do?” motivated me to investigate the literary explorations of Odysseus after the Odyssey. I’ve picked four of the most canonical accounts – the Telegony, Dante’s Divine Comedy, Tennyson’s Ulysses, and Plato’s Republic. I will explain to you their fascinating plots and what they have to teach us wanderers.
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What happens to Odysseus after the Odyssey? Can you imagine him just settling down in Ithaca after 20 years of warring and wandering? No notable “sequel” tells of such a happily ever after. Some say he rejects domestic life and abandons Penelope and Telemachus for more adventures. Some say he ends up marrying the Queen of Thesprotia and is mistakenly killed by his own son. Some say he sails into the Atlantic and drowns as he is about to reach Mount Purgatory. I became fascinated with Odysseus’ ending because I too am a wanderer. I have not settled down romantically. I am a seeker when it comes to religion. I am constantly travelling. And unlike Odysseus, I don’t even have a single Ithaca to return to having grown up between worlds. By asking the question, “Will Odysseus ever settle down?” I wanted to figure out if and how I will be able to settle down. The interesting philosophical question is this: is wandering good? And, if not, how does one stop wandering? The common advice is to quit “cold turkey,” but what if you should accelerate your way out? For example, Odysseus had sex with two divinely beautiful goddesses for eight years before he was ready to go back to his wife. Remember that he wanted to stay longer than a year with Circe and had to be convinced by his crew. And Homer tells us that at the end of the seven-year stay with Calypso, the nymph was “no longer pleasing to him,” implying that she initially was (Homer’s Odysseus is much more lustful than Nolan’s). What if that’s what the wanderer should do in all circumstances: indulge in hedonism until you see the limits of pleasure; make so much money that you cure yourself of avarice; become famous to rid yourself of vanity. What if you should indulge in things most people would say are completely out of bounds but still come out unscathed on the other side by tying yourself tightly to the mast? These questions around “what ought the wanderer do?” motivated me to investigate the literary explorations of Odysseus after the Odyssey. I’ve picked four of the most canonical accounts – the Telegony, Dante’s Divine Comedy, Tennyson’s Ulysses, and Plato’s Republic. I will explain to you their fascinating plots and what they have to teach us wanderers.

Johnathan Bi

280,016 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

This man pulls up to a McDonald’s who was forced to close early because nobody showed up for work. He blames the worker who is there by herself cleaning because she has nobody there to make the food and take the orders. Is he being unrealistic? Or should she take his order, ring him up and make his food and deliver it all by herself?
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This man pulls up to a McDonald’s who was forced to close early because nobody showed up for work. He blames the worker who is there by herself cleaning because she has nobody there to make the food and take the orders. Is he being unrealistic? Or should she take his order, ring him up and make his food and deliver it all by herself?

SonnyBoy🇺🇸

74,589 görüntüleme • 6 ay önce

This is the sea that Zubeen Garg loved. This is the sea where we belonged. He belongs to the people. And here, lakhs and lakhs of people are carrying him for his last journey. This is the last such sight of anyone in Assam. Nobody will come after Zubeen Garg. Nobody. 🕊️💔
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This is the sea that Zubeen Garg loved. This is the sea where we belonged. He belongs to the people. And here, lakhs and lakhs of people are carrying him for his last journey. This is the last such sight of anyone in Assam. Nobody will come after Zubeen Garg. Nobody. 🕊️💔

aboyob bhuyan

23,398 görüntüleme • 11 ay önce

This is the current state of WWE that people are legit doubting whether Cena is going to main event his own fucking retirement show. 25 years…He has carried the company on his back and you deadass want him to OPEN ?! And the worst part is , IF Gunther defeats Cena and potentially might even TAP HIM OUT , Nobody….Nobody is gonna tune in for the rest of the show , Crowd will be dead. The retirement tour wasn’t great to begin with , at least end it perfectly. Have Cena mainevent , Win the match , Send the crowd back home happy.
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This is the current state of WWE that people are legit doubting whether Cena is going to main event his own fucking retirement show. 25 years…He has carried the company on his back and you deadass want him to OPEN ?! And the worst part is , IF Gunther defeats Cena and potentially might even TAP HIM OUT , Nobody….Nobody is gonna tune in for the rest of the show , Crowd will be dead. The retirement tour wasn’t great to begin with , at least end it perfectly. Have Cena mainevent , Win the match , Send the crowd back home happy.

Popplayzz

487,614 görüntüleme • 8 ay önce

This scene in the Odyssey is very similar to Draupadi’s Swayamvara in the Mahabharata. The villain is Duryodhana, who sends all his people but does not come himself because he knows he cannot succeed. Odysseus is like Arjuna — the only person who can string the bow. Both are in a state of exile. Greek and Indian mythology appear quite similar. #odyssey
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This scene in the Odyssey is very similar to Draupadi’s Swayamvara in the Mahabharata. The villain is Duryodhana, who sends all his people but does not come himself because he knows he cannot succeed. Odysseus is like Arjuna — the only person who can string the bow. Both are in a state of exile. Greek and Indian mythology appear quite similar. #odyssey

Accident

689,411 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

gunwook talking about the odyssey bcs i love him geeking out about greek & roman mythology 🥹 💬 are you going to watch odyssey? 🧸 ah that! i saw them talking about it on the badonus channel a while ago, the odyssey movie. is that directed by nolan? or not? is it not directed by nolan? it is directed by nolan right 🧸 the odyssey movie… it’s a movie about odysseus. i actually really like greek and roman mythology. but to be honest, i didnt really like odysseus that much because i liked achilles! 🧸 achilles is like... this is a bit ambiguous but he’s kind of like a god achilles. how should i put it... like a demigod... is he considered a demigod? i dont think he goes as far as being a demigod? or does he? 🧸 thetis gave birth to him? ah seems like it. he is a demigod. his mom is a god. you’re right (x3) but because of the prophecy, they dipped him in the river styx, but since they held him by his foot– his ankle, while dipping him, his ankle became his weakness. i wonder why they did that tho 💬 is that the origin? 🧸 yeah thats the origin. thats how it became the achilles 💬 who’s your favorite? 🧸 i like theseus. i dont know why but i liked theseus a bit when i was a kid. theseus is the guy who caught the minotaur right? in the labyrinth. i cant remember the name of the labyrinth. ah... i cant remember the name of the labyrinth
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gunwook talking about the odyssey bcs i love him geeking out about greek & roman mythology 🥹 💬 are you going to watch odyssey? 🧸 ah that! i saw them talking about it on the badonus channel a while ago, the odyssey movie. is that directed by nolan? or not? is it not directed by nolan? it is directed by nolan right 🧸 the odyssey movie… it’s a movie about odysseus. i actually really like greek and roman mythology. but to be honest, i didnt really like odysseus that much because i liked achilles! 🧸 achilles is like... this is a bit ambiguous but he’s kind of like a god achilles. how should i put it... like a demigod... is he considered a demigod? i dont think he goes as far as being a demigod? or does he? 🧸 thetis gave birth to him? ah seems like it. he is a demigod. his mom is a god. you’re right (x3) but because of the prophecy, they dipped him in the river styx, but since they held him by his foot– his ankle, while dipping him, his ankle became his weakness. i wonder why they did that tho 💬 is that the origin? 🧸 yeah thats the origin. thats how it became the achilles 💬 who’s your favorite? 🧸 i like theseus. i dont know why but i liked theseus a bit when i was a kid. theseus is the guy who caught the minotaur right? in the labyrinth. i cant remember the name of the labyrinth. ah... i cant remember the name of the labyrinth

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30,143 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce