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NY Giants: Justin Fields The Giants have everything needed to win games, but unfortunately they lost their QB for the season Here is why Justin Fields makes sense 1. Fields has experience with Matt Nagy. They go back to 2022 where Fields was thrown in the fire as a...

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Dylan Murphy3 gün önce

Man can we stop this non sense. I love Justin, he made those really, really bad years watchable because you wanted to see him break a big one or the occasional deep ball. But he’s bad. Good kid, fun here and there but bad.

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Da Bear in Vegas 🐻⬆️ 🏜3 gün önce

Would actually be a good fit for the year. 🤷‍♂️

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BlueDog3 gün önce

You continue to do a marvelous job of trolling to get engagement Good for you

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Jaemillz7143 gün önce

You know Justin Fields and Nagy didn't get along right ? Nagy didn't even want him drafted, that was all Pace.

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Randy Caudill3 gün önce

Mooney is in NY too

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Suedehead3 gün önce

The best thing Fields could do is get on a team with an elite OLine, he has QB flaws but this would serve his talent well

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Mike Cumbee3 gün önce

1.) Nagy hated Fields which is why he benched him. 2.) Dart can read a defense pre and post snap. Fields can't. 3.) Mooney's best season was with ATL. Most TDs, Higher YPR & YPRR, Higher Success %, Higher Catch %. It took 140 targets to get 1,055 yds with Fields.

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CubbieNation3 gün önce

Someone needs attention, here it is

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abdus saabur3 gün önce

They are not trading for him and the Chiefs would say no .

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10X Investments3 gün önce

Bro. If you have any followers they are all gone. Fields is the worst starter in history and it’s been tried with three teams. Cmon man

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Armador Thrash3 gün önce

Fields sucks.

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Shacklers3 gün önce

Lmao LET IT GO

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Guy Rivers3 gün önce

🤣😂 Go ahead, do it! Never too late to learn the hard way!

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Mike Celestine (Rhino)3 gün önce

This is a JF burner account.

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Lemonsqueezer3 gün önce

You're an idiot. This will never happen and stop being a simp.

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AutographPrincess👸🏽3 gün önce

Will you admit you’re wrong if he never proves anyone wrong and is just bad until he retires

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𝒿𝑔3 gün önce

Yall need Mac jones man

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Gerard O Riordan3 gün önce

But they need a starter

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mecosta3 gün önce

Never seen anyone have such a man crush on a player like you have with Justin. He’s a fine backup QB but acting like he’s going to save the Giants season is laughable.

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Kendall Roy3 gün önce

@Morice424 😭😭😭😭😭 Black Ditka (Justin Fields biggest fan on the planet) wants to see him back in NY what do you think?

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Dizzzank3 gün önce

Matt Nagy didn't like JF1 , he refused to use his strenghts.. this is a reach...

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Justin Fields: God’s not Finished.. “Justin Fields is Taysom Hill” “Justin Fields is nothing but a back-up” “Justin Fields just can’t process what he sees” Sometimes a man gotta say the hell with everybody else and do what’s best for them The New York Jets taught Justin Fields a valuable lesson. Not all money is good money. Not all starting roles are worth it.. Justin Fields has exhausted starting for teams with rookie head coaches, terrible coaching, no OL, and bad defense. Aaron Glenn hiring Tanner Engstrand as an offensive coordinator when he has never installed an offense in his life made zero sense. Justin Fields paid the price of inexperienced coaches yet again, but I think he finally learned the lesson God had been revealing to him. Put no faith in man. Put faith in God and Christ that dwells within. Seeing him restart his QB journey with Eric Bieniemy at OC, Andy Reid at HC, and Pat Mahomes in the QB room was the right move. Learn from the experienced veterans for 1-2 years regardless of your role. Learn the philosophy of football Learn the system Fields is now getting everything that he should have received day 1 in Chicago We will now witness him develop into a top QB in this league So be it…
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Justin Fields: God’s not Finished.. “Justin Fields is Taysom Hill” “Justin Fields is nothing but a back-up” “Justin Fields just can’t process what he sees” Sometimes a man gotta say the hell with everybody else and do what’s best for them The New York Jets taught Justin Fields a valuable lesson. Not all money is good money. Not all starting roles are worth it.. Justin Fields has exhausted starting for teams with rookie head coaches, terrible coaching, no OL, and bad defense. Aaron Glenn hiring Tanner Engstrand as an offensive coordinator when he has never installed an offense in his life made zero sense. Justin Fields paid the price of inexperienced coaches yet again, but I think he finally learned the lesson God had been revealing to him. Put no faith in man. Put faith in God and Christ that dwells within. Seeing him restart his QB journey with Eric Bieniemy at OC, Andy Reid at HC, and Pat Mahomes in the QB room was the right move. Learn from the experienced veterans for 1-2 years regardless of your role. Learn the philosophy of football Learn the system Fields is now getting everything that he should have received day 1 in Chicago We will now witness him develop into a top QB in this league So be it…

White Cunningham

20,818 görüntüleme • 4 ay önce

Where to next for Fields: Case for Miami Dolphins Miami is where Fields trains every offseason He’s worked with Daniels before The offense fits his talents like a glove! Miami’s offense needs a QB that can make plays on his own when the coverage plays out perfectly. Give Fields a lane and he will house call it, as he has done to Miami multiple times Give Fields the WRs and coach he deserves South beach?!
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Where to next for Fields: Case for Miami Dolphins Miami is where Fields trains every offseason He’s worked with Daniels before The offense fits his talents like a glove! Miami’s offense needs a QB that can make plays on his own when the coverage plays out perfectly. Give Fields a lane and he will house call it, as he has done to Miami multiple times Give Fields the WRs and coach he deserves South beach?!

Black Ditka

90,186 görüntüleme • 9 ay önce

Where to next for Fields: Case for ATL Falcons You’ve shot all of your shots at QB and nothing is clear as of yet. Go sign the hometown kid and pair him with his best friend Kyle Pitts and Darnell Mooney Build the trenches and allow Fields, Robinson, and Allgeier to lead the way Allow Drake London to blossom as a deep ball playmaker Bring Fields home to ATL and he will prosper
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Where to next for Fields: Case for ATL Falcons You’ve shot all of your shots at QB and nothing is clear as of yet. Go sign the hometown kid and pair him with his best friend Kyle Pitts and Darnell Mooney Build the trenches and allow Fields, Robinson, and Allgeier to lead the way Allow Drake London to blossom as a deep ball playmaker Bring Fields home to ATL and he will prosper

Black Ditka

84,023 görüntüleme • 9 ay önce

James Jones: “It’s disrespectful to Justin Fields to compare him to Jalen Hurts. Fields’ arm talent is better.. He’s faster, more explosive, his run talent is better than Hurts.. And he doesn’t have AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert, that O-Line, etc.. Hurts is winning with the team. Justin Fields at the QB position is more of a talent than Hurts, I don’t care what y’all talking about.” ( 🎥: Speak )
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James Jones: “It’s disrespectful to Justin Fields to compare him to Jalen Hurts. Fields’ arm talent is better.. He’s faster, more explosive, his run talent is better than Hurts.. And he doesn’t have AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert, that O-Line, etc.. Hurts is winning with the team. Justin Fields at the QB position is more of a talent than Hurts, I don’t care what y’all talking about.” ( 🎥: Speak )

Eagles Nation

913,292 görüntüleme • 3 yıl önce

Malachi Fields to the New York Giants. Fits really well with Malik Nabers when he's healthy. Smart zone-beater who can move into the slot and play Z, but will also be a ball-winner for Jaxson Dart when he plays at the X.
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Malachi Fields to the New York Giants. Fits really well with Malik Nabers when he's healthy. Smart zone-beater who can move into the slot and play Z, but will also be a ball-winner for Jaxson Dart when he plays at the X.

Matt Harmon

55,561 görüntüleme • 5 ay önce

Justin Fields getting benched by the #Steelers after a 4-2 start last season seemed to weigh on him as he was making his free agent choice this offseason, Ian Rapoport said. Fields has a ‘great opportunity’ with the #Jets & they made him a priority but Pittsburgh giving him the shaft isn’t something he forgot. 🎥 The Insiders NFL #JetUp #HereWeGo LINK:
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Justin Fields getting benched by the #Steelers after a 4-2 start last season seemed to weigh on him as he was making his free agent choice this offseason, Ian Rapoport said. Fields has a ‘great opportunity’ with the #Jets & they made him a priority but Pittsburgh giving him the shaft isn’t something he forgot. 🎥 The Insiders NFL #JetUp #HereWeGo LINK:

Paul Andrew Esden Jr

61,128 görüntüleme • 1 yıl önce

Justin Fields: Firstfruits Believers He hasn’t had a winning season in the NFL yet.. His career thus far has been pure adversity Yet he has a large audience of believers. Why so? The skillset, the playmaker ability, the leader, and the person. We have watched Justin Fields grow up from the kid he was on QB1:Beyond the Lights The kid that willed his team to greatness since HS has faced adversity all throughout his football career Even in college, there was adversity before triumph Fans and believers understand that the NFL is a cutthroat business where opportunities come very few It is just a hard pill to swallow to see a talent like Justin Fields fall to inept organizations and coaches But by no means, are we throwing a pity party. But seriously, what has happened to the NFL? The NFL brand used to be all about development. Coaches used to actually invest, coach, develop, and believe in their players But despite the adversity, we believe Fields will find himself in a good situation that suits him With a coach that believes in him A scheme that was built for him A team that has the level of talent needed to win And a front office that truly understands what Fields bring to a team at Qb He is a game changer, not manager. He needs an offense that allows him to have 35-45 passing attempts down the field If Warren Moon NFL career started at 28 years old If Kurt Warner NFL career started at 27 years old Then surely Justin Fields at are 26 has time to prove that he belongs Give him 1 full year with good OL, good WRs, and good coach. He will breakout
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Justin Fields: Firstfruits Believers He hasn’t had a winning season in the NFL yet.. His career thus far has been pure adversity Yet he has a large audience of believers. Why so? The skillset, the playmaker ability, the leader, and the person. We have watched Justin Fields grow up from the kid he was on QB1:Beyond the Lights The kid that willed his team to greatness since HS has faced adversity all throughout his football career Even in college, there was adversity before triumph Fans and believers understand that the NFL is a cutthroat business where opportunities come very few It is just a hard pill to swallow to see a talent like Justin Fields fall to inept organizations and coaches But by no means, are we throwing a pity party. But seriously, what has happened to the NFL? The NFL brand used to be all about development. Coaches used to actually invest, coach, develop, and believe in their players But despite the adversity, we believe Fields will find himself in a good situation that suits him With a coach that believes in him A scheme that was built for him A team that has the level of talent needed to win And a front office that truly understands what Fields bring to a team at Qb He is a game changer, not manager. He needs an offense that allows him to have 35-45 passing attempts down the field If Warren Moon NFL career started at 28 years old If Kurt Warner NFL career started at 27 years old Then surely Justin Fields at are 26 has time to prove that he belongs Give him 1 full year with good OL, good WRs, and good coach. He will breakout

Black Loveland

10,247 görüntüleme • 8 ay önce

Justin Fields: Top 10 Chicago Bear All-time I don’t care what anybody has to say I don’t care what the data reveals I know what I saw and what I felt when Justin Fields was in Chicago It felt like Michael Vick.. It felt like Randall Cunningham.. It felt like Steve Young.. It felt like Roger Staubach.. Lovie and Ditka would’ve cherished him.. It felt like Justin Fields was on the brink of what the Eagles offense got out of Hurts But Ryan Poles and the Chicago Bears failed to pair him with a good offensive OL or good coaches We have unequivocal evidence that Justin Fields was not the problem in Chicago and the 2024 season proved it The problem was coaching and offensive line! Thus, I wear my Justin Fields jersey with pride His heart and relentless effort in Chicago will forever be remembered Chicago is in good hands right now But we will never see another Bears QB with the Heart of Walter Payton in Chicago ever again!
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Justin Fields: Top 10 Chicago Bear All-time I don’t care what anybody has to say I don’t care what the data reveals I know what I saw and what I felt when Justin Fields was in Chicago It felt like Michael Vick.. It felt like Randall Cunningham.. It felt like Steve Young.. It felt like Roger Staubach.. Lovie and Ditka would’ve cherished him.. It felt like Justin Fields was on the brink of what the Eagles offense got out of Hurts But Ryan Poles and the Chicago Bears failed to pair him with a good offensive OL or good coaches We have unequivocal evidence that Justin Fields was not the problem in Chicago and the 2024 season proved it The problem was coaching and offensive line! Thus, I wear my Justin Fields jersey with pride His heart and relentless effort in Chicago will forever be remembered Chicago is in good hands right now But we will never see another Bears QB with the Heart of Walter Payton in Chicago ever again!

Black Ditka

11,607 görüntüleme • 3 ay önce

Justin Fields: Victim of bad spacing “50 yards passing!! Fields is terrible..” “11 passing attempts, what a joke!” “This is year 5, and he still can’t read defenses” “This has to be a bit!” I’m here to tell you with unequivocal evidence, that these are all lies. What if I were to tell you, that despite all of blame, hate, and finger pointing that Justin Fields is actually innocent of all the accusations? If you want the truth, then research what I am saying Tanner Engstrand is the number one issue with the Jets passing offense and you would be a fool to believe a new QB would alleviate the issue. Pull up the All-22!!! THE SPACING IS OUTTA HAND! No Qb can read a defense like this. Players are lost in their routes and where to lineup. Let’s look at Ben Johnson vs Tanner Engstrand. They came from same offense, same team, and worked together for some time. Why are things completely different? Play-calling experience: Engstrand = 0 years Johnson = 3 years NFL experience: Engstrand = 5 years Johnson = 13 years When I look at Ben Johnson’s offense, everything meshes together so well. QB’s drop correlates to his progressions, Qb has multiple open targets per pass play majority of the time, and QB is given proper spacing of WRs to truly read the defensive coverages. When I look at Tanner Engstrand’s film it is literally worst than high school. Multiple WRs running into each other constantly!! Penalty after penalty because players don’t know where to go. I see a coach only passing when it is obvious passing down. I see a coach completely confused, but not blame has been placed on him. So why aren’t people going at the coach? Why is Fields taking all the blame and Engstrand gets none! Aaron Glenn hired a rookie OC that has never called a game in his life. How do you expect a rookie OC to install an offense in the offseason if he has never even called plays before?! Glenn wanted to run the show with no push back from his coaches. So he hired rookie coaches that would do as he says. Run the ball, pass only when needed. Atrocious mindset… Moral of the story: Engstrand only calls a few passing plays to cover his own ass. This offense was not installed properly. To save face, he is allowing Fields to take all the hits as he sits back and hopes the Jets give him another year with another QB. If Fields had Ben Johnson as a coach, he would be a top 10 QB. He is a better runner and down the field thrower than Caleb Williams. Look at the spacing! Look at the route concepts! Look at the talent he has! Look at the protection!!! My God I’m happy for Caleb Williams, but he ain’t playing lights out the way he should be. If Caleb is winning games because of his legs, just imagine what Fields would’ve been doing in that offense… Let the wheat be separated from the tares father God…
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Justin Fields: Victim of bad spacing “50 yards passing!! Fields is terrible..” “11 passing attempts, what a joke!” “This is year 5, and he still can’t read defenses” “This has to be a bit!” I’m here to tell you with unequivocal evidence, that these are all lies. What if I were to tell you, that despite all of blame, hate, and finger pointing that Justin Fields is actually innocent of all the accusations? If you want the truth, then research what I am saying Tanner Engstrand is the number one issue with the Jets passing offense and you would be a fool to believe a new QB would alleviate the issue. Pull up the All-22!!! THE SPACING IS OUTTA HAND! No Qb can read a defense like this. Players are lost in their routes and where to lineup. Let’s look at Ben Johnson vs Tanner Engstrand. They came from same offense, same team, and worked together for some time. Why are things completely different? Play-calling experience: Engstrand = 0 years Johnson = 3 years NFL experience: Engstrand = 5 years Johnson = 13 years When I look at Ben Johnson’s offense, everything meshes together so well. QB’s drop correlates to his progressions, Qb has multiple open targets per pass play majority of the time, and QB is given proper spacing of WRs to truly read the defensive coverages. When I look at Tanner Engstrand’s film it is literally worst than high school. Multiple WRs running into each other constantly!! Penalty after penalty because players don’t know where to go. I see a coach only passing when it is obvious passing down. I see a coach completely confused, but not blame has been placed on him. So why aren’t people going at the coach? Why is Fields taking all the blame and Engstrand gets none! Aaron Glenn hired a rookie OC that has never called a game in his life. How do you expect a rookie OC to install an offense in the offseason if he has never even called plays before?! Glenn wanted to run the show with no push back from his coaches. So he hired rookie coaches that would do as he says. Run the ball, pass only when needed. Atrocious mindset… Moral of the story: Engstrand only calls a few passing plays to cover his own ass. This offense was not installed properly. To save face, he is allowing Fields to take all the hits as he sits back and hopes the Jets give him another year with another QB. If Fields had Ben Johnson as a coach, he would be a top 10 QB. He is a better runner and down the field thrower than Caleb Williams. Look at the spacing! Look at the route concepts! Look at the talent he has! Look at the protection!!! My God I’m happy for Caleb Williams, but he ain’t playing lights out the way he should be. If Caleb is winning games because of his legs, just imagine what Fields would’ve been doing in that offense… Let the wheat be separated from the tares father God…

Black Ditka

78,540 görüntüleme • 10 ay önce

The New York Jets didn’t give Justin Fields a star studded cast, nor is he getting hyped by the media. I wouldn’t have it any other way, let em sleep… But he has a coach that believes in him, an offensive line that can actually block, and dawgs that ain’t afraid to bite. Justin Fields will be a top 10 QB this season and it’s best you prepare yourself
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The New York Jets didn’t give Justin Fields a star studded cast, nor is he getting hyped by the media. I wouldn’t have it any other way, let em sleep… But he has a coach that believes in him, an offensive line that can actually block, and dawgs that ain’t afraid to bite. Justin Fields will be a top 10 QB this season and it’s best you prepare yourself

Black Loveland

97,999 görüntüleme • 1 yıl önce

This is why Fields' rushing yards are usually empty He should be using his athleticism to get far more w/his arm Late-Q4, down 13, Mason Taylor is open for a TD. Fields is looking at Taylor call for the ball but decides to tuck & run 12-yd pickup, but should've been far better
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This is why Fields' rushing yards are usually empty He should be using his athleticism to get far more w/his arm Late-Q4, down 13, Mason Taylor is open for a TD. Fields is looking at Taylor call for the ball but decides to tuck & run 12-yd pickup, but should've been far better

Michael Nania

127,208 görüntüleme • 10 ay önce

Justin Fields: 2nd worst treachery in Chicago Sports History We all know that Bulls trading Derrick Rose was the worse But Chicago Bears pinning all the blame on Justin Fields was unforgivable Bears fans watched a team with no coach, no offensive line, and limited weapons go out and put up 30 pts a game all because of Justin Fields playmaking ability We finally gave him 1 single weapon in DJ Moore and it led to more victories and the most yards DJ Moore has ever had Chicago Bears and Ryan Poles scapegoated Justin instead of firing Eberflus because it was the easier thing to do They thought by drafting new stud QB and giving him 3 stud WRs would magically fix the lack of coaching and bad OL Poles kept Flus… fired before the season was over Poles kept the same OL.. Caleb became the most sacked QB in the league I’m just glad Caleb Williams only had to experience one year of what Justin had to go through Nobody talks about it now because Ben Johnson saved Bears from disaster But the truth was and is, that the Chicago Bears betrayed JF1 When franchises give up on their 1st rd QBs, it’s no guarantee they find another team to support them The vicious cycle that Fields is in right now is all because Ryan Poles failed to support and develop his QB
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Justin Fields: 2nd worst treachery in Chicago Sports History We all know that Bulls trading Derrick Rose was the worse But Chicago Bears pinning all the blame on Justin Fields was unforgivable Bears fans watched a team with no coach, no offensive line, and limited weapons go out and put up 30 pts a game all because of Justin Fields playmaking ability We finally gave him 1 single weapon in DJ Moore and it led to more victories and the most yards DJ Moore has ever had Chicago Bears and Ryan Poles scapegoated Justin instead of firing Eberflus because it was the easier thing to do They thought by drafting new stud QB and giving him 3 stud WRs would magically fix the lack of coaching and bad OL Poles kept Flus… fired before the season was over Poles kept the same OL.. Caleb became the most sacked QB in the league I’m just glad Caleb Williams only had to experience one year of what Justin had to go through Nobody talks about it now because Ben Johnson saved Bears from disaster But the truth was and is, that the Chicago Bears betrayed JF1 When franchises give up on their 1st rd QBs, it’s no guarantee they find another team to support them The vicious cycle that Fields is in right now is all because Ryan Poles failed to support and develop his QB

Black Ditka

48,217 görüntüleme • 2 ay önce

𝗧𝗥𝗘𝗡𝗗𝗜𝗡𝗚: Chiefs HC Andy Reid says that their new QB2 Justin Fields is a “legitimate starting NFL QB” and they are confident in starting him early into the season if they need to. “He’s a legitimate quarterback, a starting quarterback in the NFL and we are lucky enough to have him here. If that’s the role he plays early in the season, we have full confidence he can do a great job.”
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𝗧𝗥𝗘𝗡𝗗𝗜𝗡𝗚: Chiefs HC Andy Reid says that their new QB2 Justin Fields is a “legitimate starting NFL QB” and they are confident in starting him early into the season if they need to. “He’s a legitimate quarterback, a starting quarterback in the NFL and we are lucky enough to have him here. If that’s the role he plays early in the season, we have full confidence he can do a great job.”

JPA

723,532 görüntüleme • 5 ay önce

DJ Moore was a top 5 WR in 2023 He was #6 in yards in the entire NFL ( 1364 yards) He has averaged at least 1k in yards for the majority of his career even with poor QB play So answer me this… Why did he just have lowest yardage in his career in a Ben Johnson offense?! The truth is, DJ Moore has been the Chicago Bears best player offensively since he has arrived The truth is, DJ Moore is not being utilized properly by coaching or by QB The truth is, Justin Fields and DJ Moore had a special connection on the football field that Caleb Williams can’t replicate And for that… Bears fans will scapegoat Moore Williams is the Bears QB and the future is bright But, It is not right how this fanbase and media is treating Moore He deserves better.. They will rid this team of all Justin Fields closest teammates So be it..
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DJ Moore was a top 5 WR in 2023 He was #6 in yards in the entire NFL ( 1364 yards) He has averaged at least 1k in yards for the majority of his career even with poor QB play So answer me this… Why did he just have lowest yardage in his career in a Ben Johnson offense?! The truth is, DJ Moore has been the Chicago Bears best player offensively since he has arrived The truth is, DJ Moore is not being utilized properly by coaching or by QB The truth is, Justin Fields and DJ Moore had a special connection on the football field that Caleb Williams can’t replicate And for that… Bears fans will scapegoat Moore Williams is the Bears QB and the future is bright But, It is not right how this fanbase and media is treating Moore He deserves better.. They will rid this team of all Justin Fields closest teammates So be it..

Black Ditka

171,073 görüntüleme • 8 ay önce

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