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Once again Neilis on point 👌🏻He literally just explained the problem and a solution in detail.
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Neil gives all of us hope. If someone as dumb as him can become a famous scientist, I can be almost anything I want to be.

This guy is not a scientist, he is a political activist disguised as scientist pushing extreme left wing propaganda disguised as scientific arguments. He is full of shit. We’ve already established decades or even centuries ago how to make sports fair. Women play against women and men against men. Period. This gibberish pile of nonsense he is vomiting makes zero sense.

Neal DeGrasse Tyson proves the point that you can educate a very intelligent person with all of the wrong information and turn them into a complete dumbass with the utmost hubris in their dumbassery. Write that down.

You are all missing the point: “It requires more creative thought”. Biases against trans are the majority topic of responses here. Why does it bother you if trans compete against trans? Problem solved, no more crusades against trans, I think not some people have a need to degenerate others not like them, or against their religious leaning.

@kospac !!!!💯

…he used a lot of words yet said nothing.

Idk I remember I wrestled against a girl when I was grammar school and she was hella good. I legit only beat her by one point and she had lead the whole match up until the end. Just cause she’s a woman doesn’t mean she’s lesser automatically

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Here is an idea…let the trans athletes compete amongst themselves. Something like a trans division…easy!

Are you joking?

The problem is already solved, start a trans only or mix sex sports league. The road lacked is, the trans community does not want to.

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This is not a solution. If you “slice” every competition based on multiple criteria you’ll often end up with tiny pools of competitors competing amongst each other. Winning, becoming a champion, will be near meaningless. Congrats, you just beat the 2 other people in your slice and now you are league champion! Furthermore, you’ll still not satisfy everyone with any given “slicing” criteria, and you’ll incentivize sandbagging if you base it on tests of strength, speed, etc. Finally, how do you slice team sports, where team composition changes frequently? We already have a solution: males v males, females v females. It’s worked for thousands of years.

@ 5:18, Neil says; “then you find a way to slice the population so that whatever the event is, is interestingly contested” - Yea, we did that ALREADY, by having male sports and female sports!! There’s your ‘slice’

I use to have allot of respect for Neilis, his illogical stance on this has all but destroyed that all to appease a small minority that insist on bullying females/woman, let them form their own category and watch it die due to lack of interest.

Neil de grasse Tyson is a fucking moron. He knows so little about so much and pretends to be an expert on everything. The “solution” he comes up with would be ridiculously complex and literally unmanageable.

NO. Humans are an immutably-sexed species, sexed in every nucleated cell of our bodies. Women are fully-embodied FEMALE human beings who exist in material reality discrete of all male people; and women require and desire language, spaces, and sport free of male people.

No not on point! Wrestling was basically men only and when women tried, they usually lost so a woman category was created. Special Olympics, Paralympics, WNBA… all different categories to allow others to compete, so have your own TransOlympic and stay out of women’s spaces!!!

Lost a lot of respect for Tyson when he went full liberal propaganda

Solution!? do you not comprehend how impressively unfeasible this would be with nearly all sports, like football, basketball, soccer, etc etc?

He’s just a dime-a-dozen misogynist who doesn’t recognize women as female human beings who exist discrete of male people.

No. @neiltyson should know better. Trans is not another "category", it's a mental condition.

This shit is dumb as hell we have waaaayyyyy bigger problems to solve in America trans ppl are lest than 1% of America you go months without seeing a trans person but see a homeless person every day

Neil isn't wrong. They should create a category. Where trans people only compete against Trans people. Neil is very fair and cautious about what he says. Im a conservative and support Neil. One of the brightest minds of our generation. We can have Trans athletes. They just need to compete against other Trans athletes. Otherwise they need to compete against the sex they were born as. Simple. We don't need fake women competing against real women. You don't see fake men trying to compete against men.

Look at these fucking two. Champions of fairness in sports lmao

His argument is to fix the playing field. Don’t put the heavy weights up against the light weights. Create a category for them. Couldn’t make more sense. I would think we all agree. Don’t put them in someone else’s category - trans events played entirely by trans people would be celebrated by all!

The amount of mental gymnastics that is taking place right here is astounding.

Neil is living proof that scientists can also be dumbass idiots.

So we have to take all of those steps to test and evaluate athletes to sustain a mental disorder of 1%

His argument itself is ridiculous. “Slice” the playing field to fit the minority situation? Na. Trans themselves have said they make up what 10% of the population? Ok well we don’t need to slice anything, how about just create a new division? Then there’s no issue w/ those who want to compete. Don’t fix the tire when it’s not even causing problems, just create something new.

We are a sexually dimorphic species. For plainly obvious reasons, the proliferation & survival of the species being among them, the biological relationship between men & women has been the framework of human civilization— for all time. It’s humanity’s most fundamental truth, and we’re having to defend it, b/c progressives are denying it. Progressives have convinced a group of people to believe a lie that is existential to their very being. And it’s a lie that the overwhelming majority of us will never go along with. A society relies on order. Order in a free society relies on a common truth. Our biology is our common truth. And that’s why it’s been the framework of human civilization— for all time. Our biology affords us the most practical categories by which to organize ourselves in society. These are the fixed categories that most consistently correspond with the objective truth in the physical reality we all have to share. In other words, it’s the objective truth that most consistently applies to the most of us. B/c the overwhelming majority of us have XX or XY chromosomes. We’re either male or female. Intersex is where that consistency breaks down, but that’s still biological. Biological categories will always be exponentially more consistent than categories based on gender identity. Gender identity is the physical manifestation of a state of mind. The trans movement is demanding that we replace biology with psychology, in terms of how we organize ourselves in society. The ideology calls for society to prioritize what one feels like being, over one’s actual being. It’s quite literally one of the worst ideas in human history. Instead of practical biological categories; the categories that most consistently correspond with objective truth; the categories that have been the framework of human civilization for all time— they want us to reorganize society around the fluid & subjective categories of gender identity, where the individual doesn’t just define the terms of their identity— the individual defines the actual terms themselves. This is how we get “transwomen are real women”. It only works when foundational terms in our language are stripped of their intrinsic meaning, and redefined to possess fluid & subjective meanings. It’s like declaring that “2” doesn’t always represent a value of two anymore— that it sometimes represents a value of three. So now, 2+2 can equal 5, b/c “2” represents a value of two OR three. So if we’re being honest, transwomen are only ‘women’ in the context of a dubiously construed supplementary definition of the term— meaning transwomen are, at best, dubiously construed supplementary women— meaning transwomen aren’t actually women. The fundamental problem with organizing society around our psychology is that the human imagination is fluid & boundless, and it doesn’t always comport with objective truth. If society embraced this ideology, our common truth would be that we no longer have a common truth. There could be as many possible categories as there are people, and an individual’s relationship with those categories could be fluid & constantly redefined based on how the individual feels at any given moment. It’s silly. Embracing it would be a disaster, and would eventually require an arduous course correction, assuming it didn’t topple the existing system first. And maybe that’s the point. Truth & trans, in the context of what’s being demanded of society, are not compatible. It’s a deceitful, irrational, & harmful ideology that replaces order with chaos. This issue is the literal baseline of credibility. The people on the wrong side of it do not belong in positions of authority & influence, and they deserve to be discredited & mocked.

He made no sense in most part of this conversation. Why will trans women compete in an all female sports? If they want to compete in that sport they should create their own division so they are matched against each other and not to dilute the female sports with washed up men that failed in male sports

I love this. He just settled the debate about sex ≠ gender on accident. For example. If sex is different from gender, then why would you take sex hormones to transition or affirm your gender? After all, what does sex have to do with anything? It's not gender. Neil DeGrass W💯

Very dissapointed in Neal honestly. Trying to be woke-Liberal-Politically correct, just made him lose all credibility he earned through science. He talks nonsense now. 2 competitions, devided by chromozome types. Period.

The Astrophysicist Neil Degrasse Tyson, believes that if males never went through puberty, then they wouldn’t have certain attributes… That’s my take away.. So he, like the left, believes in the medical/surgical experimentation of minors.. That has nothing to do with water fountains, and is a line that should never be crossed. Some things are meant to be saved… Women/Girl sports is one those things.. Childhood should undoubtedly be protected.. *Young courageous girls: Athletes speak out 👇🏼

To say he offered the solution is detail is laughable. His solution was essentially “just solve it”.

