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One big differentiator between Waymo and Tesla? The ride model. Waymo requires partnerships and fleet control. Tesla can crowdsource its fleet, allowing owners to “opt in” like Airbnb hosts for autonomous rides. Sam Korus highlights more distinctions in "The Brainstorm."

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@skorusARK Waymo will not be able to scale like Tesla

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We've already seen this week that Tesla's robotaxi not only competes well against Waymo, but actually drives better (makes smarter decisions and smoother), is more comfortable, and is much better looking inside and out. Taking into account the price to deploy, it's hard to see how Waymo survives.

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A lot of people are sleeping on this fact. Imagine a having the inventory of Robotaxi ready vehicles already in use by vehicle owners in a new city that grants authorization for autonomous ride share. It would likely take a year or more for Waymo to start a fleet in that area while Tesla can simply alert the owners in that town and have thousands of car available within days.

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@skorusARK Elon Musk talked about the upcoming Tesla Robotaxi. It will be like a combination of Airbnb and Uber. Tesla car owners will be able to make money by adding their car to the fleet.

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@skorusARK Waymo has no change against Tesla and everyone knows that

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CatGPT 🐈vor 1 Jahr

@DMaguireARK @skorusARK Show your model of how much a “landlord” or “carlord” will earn. How it gets cleaned and serviced. How much more they pay in insurance. Where does it get charged while “earning” while the owner is at work. All sounds good on paper until…

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That's an exciting vision from ARK Invest! Tesla's crowdsourced robotaxi model could revolutionize mobility, turning every owner into a micro-entrepreneur. With the recent autonomous delivery success, it's clear Tesla is paving the way for a future where our cars work for us--brilliant!

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Bull et Bear 13vor 1 Jahr

@skorusARK Very impressive, but how do you recharge the battery of an autonomous Model Y without Tesla staff ? Unless I'm mistaken, induction charging was planned for the cybercab but not available on the Model Y. So your « Airbnb like » plan doesn’t work

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Long Live Texas!vor 1 Jahr

@skorusARK Once the owners can opt in will they be able to geofence their Teslas range?

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Life Is About Carryvor 1 Jahr

@skorusARK During peak hours you’re most likely not going to want to put your car into the fleet. Otherwise how are you going to get anywhere?

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These people have no idea Tesla Robotaxis are about to eat Waymo’s breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 1/ Waymo loses $ on every ride. Tesla Robotaxis will be very profitable. 2/ Waymo needs expensive LiDAR and clunky sensors. Tesla uses only vision and a neural net, just like humans. 3/ Waymo has 1,500 cars. Tesla can scale to millions quickly, 8M+ vehicles is the current fleet size. 4/ Waymo isn’t vertically integrated, they rely on other automakers. Tesla builds the hardware, the software, and the AI, all under one roof. 5/ Waymo looks like a science experiment. Tesla looks like the future. By the time people start to realize what’s happening, it’ll already be too late. This will be a winner-take-all market, and I can confidently say that Tesla Robotaxis will be #1.

These people have no idea Tesla Robotaxis are about to eat Waymo’s breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 1/ Waymo loses $ on every ride. Tesla Robotaxis will be very profitable. 2/ Waymo needs expensive LiDAR and clunky sensors. Tesla uses only vision and a neural net, just like humans. 3/ Waymo has 1,500 cars. Tesla can scale to millions quickly, 8M+ vehicles is the current fleet size. 4/ Waymo isn’t vertically integrated, they rely on other automakers. Tesla builds the hardware, the software, and the AI, all under one roof. 5/ Waymo looks like a science experiment. Tesla looks like the future. By the time people start to realize what’s happening, it’ll already be too late. This will be a winner-take-all market, and I can confidently say that Tesla Robotaxis will be #1.

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Elon Musk says Tesla’s fleet will be part Uber, part Airbnb Tesla owners can easily add their vehicles to the autonomous fleet through the app when not using them. They’ll earn money—often more than their monthly payment, while Tesla takes a small cut

Elon Musk says Tesla’s fleet will be part Uber, part Airbnb Tesla owners can easily add their vehicles to the autonomous fleet through the app when not using them. They’ll earn money—often more than their monthly payment, while Tesla takes a small cut

Dima Zeniuk

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We spoke with Farzad live from inside one of Tesla’s new robotaxi rides in Austin. “The best-selling car in the world… drives itself in Austin, TX. I paid $4.20 for the ride.” “Tesla makes as many of these cars every five hours as Waymo has in its entire fleet.” “Their training method means they’ll scale way faster than Waymo.”

We spoke with Farzad live from inside one of Tesla’s new robotaxi rides in Austin. “The best-selling car in the world… drives itself in Austin, TX. I paid $4.20 for the ride.” “Tesla makes as many of these cars every five hours as Waymo has in its entire fleet.” “Their training method means they’ll scale way faster than Waymo.”

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Elon Musk: Tesla has no need to buy Uber. “There's no need [to buy Uber] because we have millions of cars that will be able to operate autonomously. And I should say that it's a combination of a Tesla-owned fleet and also enabling Tesla owners to be able to add or subtract their car to the fleet so that existing Tesla owners will be able to earn money by adding their car to the fleet for autonomous use. I think it's maybe possible for Tesla owners to make more in allowing the car to be added to the self-driving fleet then they cost them in the lease. And that's why I'd consider it sort of a business model that's similar to some combination of Airbnb and Uber. Just like Airbnb, you can rent out your spare bedroom or your house if you're not using it and make money on it. And that's what we expect Tesla customers to be able to do.” Interview with David Faber, May 20, 2025 Made and published via

Elon Musk: Tesla has no need to buy Uber. “There's no need [to buy Uber] because we have millions of cars that will be able to operate autonomously. And I should say that it's a combination of a Tesla-owned fleet and also enabling Tesla owners to be able to add or subtract their car to the fleet so that existing Tesla owners will be able to earn money by adding their car to the fleet for autonomous use. I think it's maybe possible for Tesla owners to make more in allowing the car to be added to the self-driving fleet then they cost them in the lease. And that's why I'd consider it sort of a business model that's similar to some combination of Airbnb and Uber. Just like Airbnb, you can rent out your spare bedroom or your house if you're not using it and make money on it. And that's what we expect Tesla customers to be able to do.” Interview with David Faber, May 20, 2025 Made and published via

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ELON: TESLA OWNERS WILL BE ABLE TURN CARS INTO ROBOTAXIS "Monetizing the autonomous fleet is like Airbnb and Uber. Tesla will own some cars, but customers can add their cars to the fleet with a tap on the Tesla app, making money whenever they want. You can add or remove your car for hours, days, or weeks. The revenue will exceed the monthly payment. This will happen, mark my words." Source: Tesla

ELON: TESLA OWNERS WILL BE ABLE TURN CARS INTO ROBOTAXIS "Monetizing the autonomous fleet is like Airbnb and Uber. Tesla will own some cars, but customers can add their cars to the fleet with a tap on the Tesla app, making money whenever they want. You can add or remove your car for hours, days, or weeks. The revenue will exceed the monthly payment. This will happen, mark my words." Source: Tesla

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"Why doesn't Tesla buy Uber? There's no need. We have millions of cars that will operate autonomously. It's a combination of a Tesla owned fleet and enabling Tesla owners to add their car to the fleet. You can think of it as some combination of Airbnb and Uber." Elon Musk

"Why doesn't Tesla buy Uber? There's no need. We have millions of cars that will operate autonomously. It's a combination of a Tesla owned fleet and enabling Tesla owners to add their car to the fleet. You can think of it as some combination of Airbnb and Uber." Elon Musk

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🇺🇸 ELON: TESLA OWNERS WILL BE ABLE TO ADD THEIR CARS TO THE FLEET LIKE AIRBNB "We'll have a model which is kind of like some combination of Uber and Airbnb. So if you're a Tesla owner, right, you'll be able to add or subtract your car to the fleet. Just like in Airbnb, you could rent out your spare bedroom or rent out your house when you're not using it." Source: CNBC

🇺🇸 ELON: TESLA OWNERS WILL BE ABLE TO ADD THEIR CARS TO THE FLEET LIKE AIRBNB "We'll have a model which is kind of like some combination of Uber and Airbnb. So if you're a Tesla owner, right, you'll be able to add or subtract your car to the fleet. Just like in Airbnb, you could rent out your spare bedroom or rent out your house when you're not using it." Source: CNBC

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Day 3. Finished 5 Tesla Robotaxi rides, 4 Waymo rides, and 1 Uber ride. (See 39-minute edited video below.) Uber is in a tough situation. Classic innovators dilemma. Autonomous ride-hailing clearly is the future, but if Uber invites Waymo then that's working against their human drivers which will hurt Uber's recruiting ability (which they need to keep density especially in suburban areas). But if they don't welcome Waymo, then Uber is toast because people want cheaper/autonomous ride-hailing. Also, if Uber welcomes Waymo and Waymo cars increase then Waymo can just bypass Uber with their own Waymo app. Uber's only "hope" would be if multiple autonomous driving companies come online soon and Uber becomes the ride-hailing marketplace for them. But I think this is unlikely. Autonomous driving is just a really hard problem to solve, and with data and network effects. I think it's a winner-takes-most market. We'll see. But the more I take Tesla's Robotaxi, the more I think it's smoother and better than Waymo. And the more I take Waymo, the more I get pessimistic about Uber's long-term future.

Day 3. Finished 5 Tesla Robotaxi rides, 4 Waymo rides, and 1 Uber ride. (See 39-minute edited video below.) Uber is in a tough situation. Classic innovators dilemma. Autonomous ride-hailing clearly is the future, but if Uber invites Waymo then that's working against their human drivers which will hurt Uber's recruiting ability (which they need to keep density especially in suburban areas). But if they don't welcome Waymo, then Uber is toast because people want cheaper/autonomous ride-hailing. Also, if Uber welcomes Waymo and Waymo cars increase then Waymo can just bypass Uber with their own Waymo app. Uber's only "hope" would be if multiple autonomous driving companies come online soon and Uber becomes the ride-hailing marketplace for them. But I think this is unlikely. Autonomous driving is just a really hard problem to solve, and with data and network effects. I think it's a winner-takes-most market. We'll see. But the more I take Tesla's Robotaxi, the more I think it's smoother and better than Waymo. And the more I take Waymo, the more I get pessimistic about Uber's long-term future.

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Cathie Wood on Moonshots podcast (Jan 2026): Tesla is set to lead the robotaxi revolution and leave competitors like Waymo behind. Key points from her: - Tesla wins big due to vertical integration (batteries, chips, manufacturing, AI—all in-house), driving costs down dramatically. - Expected cost per mile: ~$0.20 for Tesla vs. significantly higher for Waymo's supplier-dependent model. - Waymo currently limited (~3,000 vehicles, geo-fenced areas), while Tesla scales via owner fleet + purpose-built vehicles. - This disrupts Uber/Lyft (surge prices up to $2.80/mile become obsolete), with robotaxis potentially hitting 80% of rides in 4-5 years. - Owners can flip their Teslas into revenue-generating assets—earn while you sleep!

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I took my wife on some Tesla Robotaxi and Waymo rides. She thought the Tesla Robotaxi was smoother and more comfortable than Waymo. I think it's a combination of several things (Tesla's end-to-end neural net, orders of magnitude more human driving data than Waymo, Model Y more comfortable than Jaguar I-Pace , etc). Here's a 56-minute edited video of the rides with my wife.

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Many people see Waymo and think they’re ahead of everyone in the autonomous driving race. After all, they’re giving out over 100,000 paid robotaxi rides a week across cities like San Francisco, Phoenix, and Los Angeles with a fleet of 700 vehicles, and on the surface, it could seem like they’re dominating. However, each Waymo costs $100,000 due to the complex, expensive hardware that’s in use. And due to this, they’re losing money on every single ride. For Waymo, scaling this business up means higher costs, and I don’t think it’s a sustainable model, even if the company keeps pouring $ into it. Now, look at Tesla. With a fleet closing in on 7 million vehicles worldwide, Tesla is playing a different game. Instead of relying on bulky, expensive hardware, Tesla uses a much simpler, more cost-effective approach, just 8 or 9 cameras and a powerful AI neural net. This AI, constantly learning from millions of real-world miles, means Tesla’s software gets smarter every day and can be scaled across the globe without needing new hardware for every car. So, while Waymo might seem like it’s leading the charge today, in my eyes, Tesla is quietly preparing to take over the entire field. They’ve created the foundation for something far bigger and is why I believe the true leader in Robotaxis will be Tesla, and I can’t wait for everyone to see it unfold on 10/10!

Many people see Waymo and think they’re ahead of everyone in the autonomous driving race. After all, they’re giving out over 100,000 paid robotaxi rides a week across cities like San Francisco, Phoenix, and Los Angeles with a fleet of 700 vehicles, and on the surface, it could seem like they’re dominating. However, each Waymo costs $100,000 due to the complex, expensive hardware that’s in use. And due to this, they’re losing money on every single ride. For Waymo, scaling this business up means higher costs, and I don’t think it’s a sustainable model, even if the company keeps pouring $ into it. Now, look at Tesla. With a fleet closing in on 7 million vehicles worldwide, Tesla is playing a different game. Instead of relying on bulky, expensive hardware, Tesla uses a much simpler, more cost-effective approach, just 8 or 9 cameras and a powerful AI neural net. This AI, constantly learning from millions of real-world miles, means Tesla’s software gets smarter every day and can be scaled across the globe without needing new hardware for every car. So, while Waymo might seem like it’s leading the charge today, in my eyes, Tesla is quietly preparing to take over the entire field. They’ve created the foundation for something far bigger and is why I believe the true leader in Robotaxis will be Tesla, and I can’t wait for everyone to see it unfold on 10/10!

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Here’s a great comparison between how Tesla Tesla Robotaxi handles the arrival at Terry Black’s BBQ restaurant and Waymo car (see link below thanks Herbert Ong & Chuck Cook ) attempting the same thing but with different results. Bottom line: the Tesla completed the task in a very natural, human-like way while the Waymo abandons the attempt and drops off the passengers at a busy intersection. Which would you want to ride in?

Here’s a great comparison between how Tesla Tesla Robotaxi handles the arrival at Terry Black’s BBQ restaurant and Waymo car (see link below thanks Herbert Ong & Chuck Cook ) attempting the same thing but with different results. Bottom line: the Tesla completed the task in a very natural, human-like way while the Waymo abandons the attempt and drops off the passengers at a busy intersection. Which would you want to ride in?

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