One of the great misconceptions about Ground Zero is that everything was destroyed so completely that nothing meaningful could be recovered. This example footage shows otherwise. For nearly nine months, recovery workers searched the wreckage of the World Trade Center. Approximately 22,000 fragments of human remains were recovered, carefully... catalogued and taken to the New York City medical examiner for analysis. Through DNA testing and other forensic methods, remains have now been identified from more than 1,650 of the 2,753 people killed at the World Trade Center. The work continues to this day. And the debris was searched just as carefully. Approximately 1.8 million tons passed through the Fresh Kills recovery operation, where evidence teams from 55 of the FBI’s 56 field offices searched for remains, personal possessions and evidence of the crime. They recovered human remains, jewelry, identification cards, aircraft wreckage and countless tiny personal effects. They did not recover a demolition charge, detonator, blasting cap, firing wire or identifiable fragment of any explosive device. Ground Zero yielded heartbreaking evidence of thousands of lives. It yielded no physical evidence of controlled demolition. The latest official identification figures come from the New York City Office of Chief Medical Examiner⁠, while the scale of the debris examination is documented by the Department of Justice Inspector General⁠.show more

全員絶望視された日航123便でさえ四人生存していた。 凄まじい事故でも「何かが残る」可能性はあります。

おっしゃる通りです。大切なことを思い出させてくださり、ありがとうございます。 Yes, absolutely, and thank you for mentioning Japan Airlines Flight 123. Four people were found alive in wreckage that initially appeared unsurvivable. One of them later recalled hearing the voices of other survivors during the night, gradually growing silent before rescuers arrived the following morning. It is a sobering reminder of why recovery teams continue searching, sometimes even beyond the point that seems reasonable. When a human life may still remain, probability is never enough. You look again. You listen again. You move one more piece of debris and dig a few inches deeper. Because those few inches, or those few additional minutes of searching, can mean the difference between reaching someone in time and leaving them to perish. All life is precious. As long as any reasonable possibility remains, so must hope.

こちらこそありがとうございます。

You have taken several real facts, misunderstood each one and assembled them into a conspiracy. Nobody claims kerosene vaporized 41% of the victims. Jet fuel started widespread fires and weakened the damaged structures. The enormous destructive energy during the collapses came from hundreds of thousands of tons of building mass falling hundreds of feet under gravity. The roughly 40% figure refers to victims for whom no recovered remains have yet been conclusively identified. It does not establish that 40% of their bodies vanished. Approximately 22,000 pieces of human remains were recovered, many extremely small, commingled, burned, contaminated or too degraded to produce usable DNA. Thousands of fragments remain unidentified and are still being retested as forensic technology improves. The small bone fragments found outside the immediate footprints require no mystery. Two airliners struck the towers at high speed, producing violent impacts and fireballs that expelled material. The subsequent collapses displaced enormous volumes of air and projected lightweight debris outward in immense debris clouds. Human remains, aircraft fragments, paper and building contents were all carried beyond the footprints. Desks, computers and concrete were not “vaporized,” either. Building contents were crushed, fragmented, burned and buried. Computers, office furniture, paper, personal possessions, steel components and concrete fragments were recovered throughout the debris. The lightweight concrete floor slabs shattered and were progressively ground into smaller particles as thousands of tons of material collided during the descent. And what “hollow area”? Ground Zero contained a massive, irregular debris pile extending into six subterranean levels. Irregular collapses naturally produce temporary voids between beams, columns, floor assemblies and other wreckage. Some survivors were rescued from such a void near Stairwell B. Voids demonstrate debris geometry, not explosives. There is also no universal “usual pancake demolition” against which this event can be compared. These were 110-story framed-tube skyscrapers suffering aircraft impacts, fires and gravity-driven progressive collapses. NIST did not claim that the intact floors quietly pancaked downward before collapse initiation. You began with kerosene, confused unidentified victims with vaporized bodies, treated mechanical fragmentation as disappearance and declared ordinary debris voids suspicious. Those are misconceptions piled on top of misconceptions. None supplies evidence of explosives.

I’ve no more time for you conspiracy addicts without a clue about physics or demolitions and are obviously a shit engineer. And your old and busted video is ancient nonsense debunked 20 years ago 🥱 go shill your propaganda elsewhere.

Here’s the Fire Engineering editorial from January 2002 where they called the handling of evidence a farce. Without physical evidence, the investigation comes down to paper and computer-generated hypotheticals. Like your clown shit.

“Without physical evidence…” Exactly. And without a single recovered charge, detonator, blasting cap, length of detonation cord, firing circuit, initiation device or identifiable fragment of demolition hardware, your controlled-demolition story is complete, utter and total clown shit. Now let’s examine the editorial you apparently hoped nobody would actually read. You likely didn’t either or you wouldn’t hope it would help you - it doesn’t, at all 🫵🤡 Bill Manning wrote it in January 2002. It criticized the small, preliminary FEMA/ASCE assessment and the rapid recycling of structural steel before a properly funded forensic engineering investigation could be completed. It was published seven months before NIST began its investigation. The editorial does not claim that Ground Zero produced no physical evidence. It does not allege controlled demolition, explosives or thermite. In fact, it advances precisely the opposite explanation: aircraft damage followed by uncontrolled contents fires attacking inadequately fireproofed floor trusses and load-bearing columns caused the collapses. Your own source supports fire-induced structural failure. Manning’s “paper- and computer-generated hypotheticals” line was a warning about what the investigation might become if nothing more were done. It was not a description of the comprehensive NIST investigation that subsequently occurred. NIST later examined 236 recovered pieces of structural steel, performed laboratory testing, studied original construction documents, reviewed approximately 7,000 video segments and 7,000 photographs, interviewed more than 1,000 people and used physical evidence to inform its engineering analyses. Meanwhile, approximately 1.8 million tons of debris passed through the Fresh Kills recovery operation. FBI Evidence Response Teams from 55 of the Bureau’s 56 field offices searched it for human remains, personal possessions and evidence of the crime. They recovered human remains, identification cards, jewelry, aircraft wreckage and tiny personal effects. They recovered no demolition system. You took an early editorial demanding a better investigation of fire-induced structural failure, stripped away its date and context, concealed the explanation it actually supported and pretended it was evidence for controlled demolition. It isn’t. The only hypothesis here that exists without physical evidence is yours.

I ain’t reading a book you fucking tard. Try and be succinct next time cocksucker. It’s a skill. Now I’m gonna repost the link for those interested. From the start, the handling of evidence showed how disinterested in investigating officials were.

@alexboge A few calculations reveal the truth of the matter if you understand the facts they reveal.

@alexboge You are also arguing with shadows. And these posts reifying your THEORY are only showing what COULD have happened, not what did happen. They took all the evidence and sold it to China for pennies. Or ground it up and filled NYC potholes with it.

Yeah, but my 5 minute search can´t find it...

Ok Then what made building 7 fall down

my favorite find was the conveniently preserved terrorists passports lol

911事件的神奇魔力在于，它能够让很多人不但大脑放假了，眼睛也放假了，居然都看不见纽约世贸中心两栋塔楼是被炸碎的，也许只有诚实的孩子才能看见两栋塔楼从上而下一连串爆炸的震撼画面。

There were no explosives.

911事件的神奇魔力在于，很多人不但大脑放假了，眼镜也放假了，居然看不见纽约世贸中心两栋塔楼是被炸碎的。

WTC7?

Now, do the same analysis for the pentagon and the jet that crashed in the field.

I do not take orders from you, and I am not doing this because you told me to. I am doing it for the people quietly reading who may genuinely want the information. I know that facts are unlikely to change a committed conspiracist’s mind. Normal, curious people may still find them useful. So, let’s apply the same analysis to the Pentagon and United Airlines Flight 93. PENTAGON - AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77 Investigators recovered aircraft wreckage from inside and outside the Pentagon, including landing-gear and engine components, fuselage fragments and pieces displaying American Airlines markings. Both flight recorders were recovered. The flight-data recorder yielded usable information consistent with Flight 77’s final approach and impact. The cockpit-voice recorder was recovered but was too badly damaged by heat to produce usable audio. Human remains were recovered, photographed and transferred to the Armed Forces Medical Examiner. Remains belonging to 179 victims were identified. The remains of the five hijackers were separated through DNA analysis and exclusion and retained as FBI evidence. Investigators also recovered victims’ personal effects and other identifying evidence. The debris was moved to a controlled area in the Pentagon’s north parking lot, where it was systematically searched for remains and evidence. This physical evidence was corroborated by radar data, air-traffic-control records, eyewitness accounts, security-camera images, passenger communications and the recovered flight-data recorder. It all points to the same aircraft: American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757. FLIGHT 93 - SHANKSVILLE, PENNSYLVANIA Flight 93 struck the ground at high speed and a steep angle, driving much of the aircraft into the soft earth of a reclaimed strip mine. Investigators excavated the crater and recovered aircraft wreckage, human remains, personal effects and evidence connected to the hijackers. The flight-data recorder was recovered on September 13. The cockpit-voice recorder was found the following day, approximately 25 feet below the crater. Both supplied investigators with information about the aircraft’s final minutes. The remains of all 40 passengers and crew members were eventually identified. The hijackers’ remains were identified separately through DNA evidence and exclusion and retained by the FBI. Investigators also recovered aircraft components and items from inside the aircraft, including a knife concealed inside a cigarette lighter. Lighter debris was scattered beyond the crater, while heavier components were buried by the enormous energy of the impact. FBI explosives specialists examined aircraft wreckage and debris from the attack sites. As the 9/11 Commission reported, the FBI found no trace of explosives at the crash sites. So yes, the Pentagon and Flight 93 received the same kind of forensic treatment: recovery, excavation, cataloguing, DNA analysis, recorder examination, explosives examination and comparison with radar, communications and other records. This is not an argument based on an absence of evidence. It is a conclusion based on multiple independent categories of physical evidence that converge on the same events. The investigations found aircraft wreckage, flight recorders, human remains and personal effects. They did not find a missile, a planted aircraft, a bomb or evidence of a controlled demolition. You asked for the same analysis. There it is. The physical evidence exists. Your alternative theory still does not.

So, 1100 vanished completely, no tracible trace surfaced?