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OpenAI Brad Lightcap says model training cycles are collapsing, driving rapid jumps from GPT-5.1 to 5.4 GPT-5.4 is days old and already doing a $1B run rate revenue, processing 5 trillion tokens daily "by year's end, we'll laugh at today's models. they'll seem pedestrian"

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Karpathy told Dwarkesh that a 1 billion parameter model, trained on clean data, could hit the intelligence of today's 1.8 trillion parameter frontier. That is a 1,800x compression claim. The math behind it is more defensible than it sounds. When researchers at frontier labs look at random samples from their training corpus, they see stock ticker symbols, broken HTML, forum spam, autogenerated gibberish. Not Wikipedia. Not the Wall Street Journal. The actual pretraining dataset is mostly noise, and the model is burning parameters to vaguely remember all of it. One estimate pegs Llama 3's information compression at 0.07 bits per token. Well-structured English carries around 1.5 bits per token of real information. The trillion-parameter model is holding a roughly 5% resolution image of the internet it trained on. So when a lab ships a 1.8 trillion parameter model, the overwhelming majority of those weights are handling rough memorization. They are compression overhead for a noisy training set, taking up capacity that could be doing reasoning instead. Karpathy's proposal is to separate the two. Build a cognitive core: a small model that contains only the algorithms for reasoning and problem-solving, stripped of encyclopedic memorization. Pair it with external memory the model queries when it needs a fact. A 1 billion parameter reasoner plus retrieval beats a 1.8 trillion parameter model trying to do both. The data already supports this direction. GPT-4o runs at roughly 200 billion parameters and outperforms the original 1.8 trillion GPT-4. Inference costs for GPT-3.5 level performance fell 280x between 2022 and 2024, driven almost entirely by smaller, cleaner, better-architected models. The trend line is pointing where Karpathy says it should. The real implication for anyone tracking the AI trade: data quality is the actual constraint. The companies winning the next phase will be the ones who figured out what to train on, and what to throw away.

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Andrej Karpathy just made one of the most interesting arguments about AI model design that most people are completely missing. His take is that frontier AI models are not too big because the technology is complex and too big because the training data is garbage. When you or I think of the internet, we picture Wall Street Journal articles, Wikipedia entries, serious writing. That is not what a pretraining dataset looks like. When researchers at frontier labs look at random documents from the actual training corpus, it is stock ticker symbols, broken HTML, spam, gibberish. One estimate puts Llama 3's information compression at just 0.07 bits per token meaning the model has only a hazy recollection of most of what it trained on. So we build trillion parameter models not because we need a trillion parameter brain but because we need a trillion-parameter compression engine to squeeze some intelligence out of a firehose of noise. Most of those parameters are doing memory work, not cognitive work. Karpathy's prediction is separate the two entirely. Build a cognitive core, a model that contains only the algorithms for reasoning and problem-solving, stripped of encyclopedic memorization and pair it with external memory that it can query when it needs facts. He thinks a cognitive core trained on high-quality data could hit genuine intelligence at around one billion parameters. For reference, today's flagship models run between 200 billion and 1.8 trillion parameters with most of that weight dedicated to remembering the internet's slop. The trend is already moving his direction. GPT-4o operates at roughly 200 billion parameters and outperforms the original 1.8 trillion-parameter GPT-4. Inference costs for GPT-3.5-level performance dropped 280-fold between 2022 and 2024 driven almost entirely by smaller, cleaner, better-architected models. The real bottleneck in AI right now is not compute but rather data quality.

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Factory (Factory) CEO Matan Grinberg (Matan Grinberg) says "In the next 12 months, 90% of tokens will be going to open models." Enterprises are already shifting rapidly.. "At the beginning of the year, <1% of their tokens were going to open models." "Around March, it crossed 1%... & in May it crossed 10%." "These open models are incredibly performant, incredibly cheap, incredibly fast." While frontier closed models aren't going away: "They'll still have a place, but I think that place will be shrinking—at least in token share." And by the end of 2026? "At least in the enterprise, we'll probably cross the 50% threshold."

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Happy GPT-5 Day to all who celebrate. Here's what I expect: It will be agentic-first (this is all but confirmed by OpenAI) It will be heavily multimodal (audio, video, music, tool use, and more) It will be a reasoning-first model as well (math, planning, etc) Directionally, I suspect we're looking at moving towards a convergence of "everything to everything" end-to-end models. Sort of like how Tesla improved FSD by doing neural networks for end-to-end perception-planning-control. Likewise, I suspect that, for the foreseeable future on general purpose models, we're going to converge towards "all in one" models. They will just tend to get smarter and smarter the more modalities we stuff into them (world models, math, image, text, video, audio, etc).

David Shapiro (L/0)

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Found a way to run Kimi K3 for FREE with daily credits on 😳 it's a 2.8T parameter model. 1M context. beats Fable 5 on coding benchmarks. what you get for $0: -2.8 trillion parameters -1M context window -beats Fable 5 on SWE Marathon (42 vs 35) -beats Fable 5 on Program Bench (77.8) -topped BrowseComp (91.2) -native vision understanding What this replaces: -Paid frontier API costs for coding agents -Fable 5 at $30/M output tokens -GPT-5.6 Sol at $25/M output tokens how to use it (2 min): 1. Go to 2. Sign up with email 3. Start using K3 — it's the default model Also available on desktop app, CLI, and mobile. Important: Free daily credits reset. Full open weights dropping July 27. Rate limits apply on free tier. use this before the free tier gets crowded

Found a way to run Kimi K3 for FREE with daily credits on 😳 it's a 2.8T parameter model. 1M context. beats Fable 5 on coding benchmarks. what you get for $0: -2.8 trillion parameters -1M context window -beats Fable 5 on SWE Marathon (42 vs 35) -beats Fable 5 on Program Bench (77.8) -topped BrowseComp (91.2) -native vision understanding What this replaces: -Paid frontier API costs for coding agents -Fable 5 at $30/M output tokens -GPT-5.6 Sol at $25/M output tokens how to use it (2 min): 1. Go to 2. Sign up with email 3. Start using K3 — it's the default model Also available on desktop app, CLI, and mobile. Important: Free daily credits reset. Full open weights dropping July 27. Rate limits apply on free tier. use this before the free tier gets crowded

painn

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GPT-5 is live in Cline. We've been working with OpenAI to get this model ready, and here's our take: it's disciplined, persistent, & highly competent. It's collaborative in planning & and a diligent operator while acting. It plans thoroughly, asks optioned follow-ups when needed, & then gets out of the way and ships code. On long tasks it keeps going before pausing to check in. It follows instructions to the letter. And most importantly -- it writes good code. GPT-5 is like "The Wolf" from Pulp Fiction. Comes in, assesses the situation, then executes. Here's what you can expect from GPT-5 in Cline: > verbose while planning; terse while executing > asks a lot of good clarification questions, & frequently provides options when appropriate > strong context retention and persistence over long horizons (256k context window) > good at diff-style edits and multi-file changes (we'll monitor as more usage data comes in) > quiet in Act mode -- writes code without yapping Metaprompting is another strength. We tested early with OpenAI and used GPT-5 to tune our own prompt for GPT-5. Here's a pattern we like: “Answer from your own perspective: what changes or additions would help you better follow this prompt? Here is the prompt (or snippet): [snippet]. Users have complained about X and Y. What minimal edits would you make while keeping the rest intact?” Do you need to change any of your existing patterns in Cline? No -- it's good out of the box. Give a clear goal and constraints, let it plan, then let it cook. Expect more clarifying questions than most models. Pricing: $1.25/M input tokens (+90% cache), $10/M output. Roughly half of Sonnet 4 ($3/$15). Want to try GPT-5? Use it in Cline today for pure, unfiltered inference via the OpenAI, Cline, or OpenRouter providers. (fyi -- GPT-5 one-shotted this browser DAW below on the prompt "build something impressive to show me what you're capable of")

GPT-5 is live in Cline. We've been working with OpenAI to get this model ready, and here's our take: it's disciplined, persistent, & highly competent. It's collaborative in planning & and a diligent operator while acting. It plans thoroughly, asks optioned follow-ups when needed, & then gets out of the way and ships code. On long tasks it keeps going before pausing to check in. It follows instructions to the letter. And most importantly -- it writes good code. GPT-5 is like "The Wolf" from Pulp Fiction. Comes in, assesses the situation, then executes. Here's what you can expect from GPT-5 in Cline: > verbose while planning; terse while executing > asks a lot of good clarification questions, & frequently provides options when appropriate > strong context retention and persistence over long horizons (256k context window) > good at diff-style edits and multi-file changes (we'll monitor as more usage data comes in) > quiet in Act mode -- writes code without yapping Metaprompting is another strength. We tested early with OpenAI and used GPT-5 to tune our own prompt for GPT-5. Here's a pattern we like: “Answer from your own perspective: what changes or additions would help you better follow this prompt? Here is the prompt (or snippet): [snippet]. Users have complained about X and Y. What minimal edits would you make while keeping the rest intact?” Do you need to change any of your existing patterns in Cline? No -- it's good out of the box. Give a clear goal and constraints, let it plan, then let it cook. Expect more clarifying questions than most models. Pricing: $1.25/M input tokens (+90% cache), $10/M output. Roughly half of Sonnet 4 ($3/$15). Want to try GPT-5? Use it in Cline today for pure, unfiltered inference via the OpenAI, Cline, or OpenRouter providers. (fyi -- GPT-5 one-shotted this browser DAW below on the prompt "build something impressive to show me what you're capable of")

Cline

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How GPT-5 thinks, with OpenAI VP of Research Jerry Tworek 00:00 - Intro 01:01 - What Reasoning Actually Means in AI 02:32 - Chain of Thought: Models Thinking in Words 05:25 - How Models Decide How Long to Think 07:24 - Evolution from o1 to o3 to GPT-5 11:00 - The Road to OpenAI: Growing up in Poland, Dropping out of School, Trading 20:32 - Working on Robotics and Rubik's Cube Solving 23:02 - A Day in the Life: Talking to Researchers 24:06 - How Research Priorities Are Determined 26:53 - OpenAI's Culture of Transparency 29:32 - Balancing Research with Shipping Fast 31:52 - Using OpenAI's Own Tools Daily 32:43 - Pre-Training Plus RL: The Modern AI Stack 35:10 - Reinforcement Learning 101: Training Dogs 40:17 - The Evolution of Deep Reinforcement Learning 42:09 - When GPT-4 Seemed Underwhelming at First 45:39 - How RLHF Made GPT-4 Actually Useful 48:02 - Unsupervised vs Supervised Learning 49:59 - GRPO and How DeepSeek Accelerated US Research 53:05 - What It Takes to Scale Reinforcement Learning 55:36 - Agentic AI and Long-Horizon Thinking 59:19 - Alignment as an RL Problem 1:01:11 - Winning ICPC World Finals Without Specific Training 1:05:53 - Applying RL Beyond Math and Coding 1:09:15 - The Path from Here to AGI 1:12:23 - Pure RL vs Language Models

How GPT-5 thinks, with OpenAI VP of Research Jerry Tworek 00:00 - Intro 01:01 - What Reasoning Actually Means in AI 02:32 - Chain of Thought: Models Thinking in Words 05:25 - How Models Decide How Long to Think 07:24 - Evolution from o1 to o3 to GPT-5 11:00 - The Road to OpenAI: Growing up in Poland, Dropping out of School, Trading 20:32 - Working on Robotics and Rubik's Cube Solving 23:02 - A Day in the Life: Talking to Researchers 24:06 - How Research Priorities Are Determined 26:53 - OpenAI's Culture of Transparency 29:32 - Balancing Research with Shipping Fast 31:52 - Using OpenAI's Own Tools Daily 32:43 - Pre-Training Plus RL: The Modern AI Stack 35:10 - Reinforcement Learning 101: Training Dogs 40:17 - The Evolution of Deep Reinforcement Learning 42:09 - When GPT-4 Seemed Underwhelming at First 45:39 - How RLHF Made GPT-4 Actually Useful 48:02 - Unsupervised vs Supervised Learning 49:59 - GRPO and How DeepSeek Accelerated US Research 53:05 - What It Takes to Scale Reinforcement Learning 55:36 - Agentic AI and Long-Horizon Thinking 59:19 - Alignment as an RL Problem 1:01:11 - Winning ICPC World Finals Without Specific Training 1:05:53 - Applying RL Beyond Math and Coding 1:09:15 - The Path from Here to AGI 1:12:23 - Pure RL vs Language Models

Matt Turck

451,229 görüntüleme • 9 ay önce

OpenAI are testing a new model on the Web Dev Arena Arena under the name 'Anonymous Chatbot 0717'. I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but it is genuinely at a completely different level of front end coding - far better than Sonnet, o3, Gemini 2.5 Pro, or Grok 4. To test it, I ran a great prompt borrowed from the amazing The Feature Crew YouTube channel, asking models to create a procedurally generated planet with Three.js. Take a look yourselves, but I'm pretty astonished by how big the jump is. I have featured the new model twice just because its implementations have been so interesting. Of course, this is only one test, but OpenAI models have always been a bit 'meh' at front-end work, and they seem to have finally overtaken everyone else on that front. We'll see when it comes out. Credit to Chetaslua for discovering the model

OpenAI are testing a new model on the Web Dev Arena Arena under the name 'Anonymous Chatbot 0717'. I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but it is genuinely at a completely different level of front end coding - far better than Sonnet, o3, Gemini 2.5 Pro, or Grok 4. To test it, I ran a great prompt borrowed from the amazing The Feature Crew YouTube channel, asking models to create a procedurally generated planet with Three.js. Take a look yourselves, but I'm pretty astonished by how big the jump is. I have featured the new model twice just because its implementations have been so interesting. Of course, this is only one test, but OpenAI models have always been a bit 'meh' at front-end work, and they seem to have finally overtaken everyone else on that front. We'll see when it comes out. Credit to Chetaslua for discovering the model

Peter Gostev

495,815 görüntüleme • 1 yıl önce

Chamath says OpenAI and Anthropic could be $5 to $10 trillion companies each if they remain a duopoly "I suspect revenues are going to crank at OpenAI and Anthropic and the open labs for a while. But again, that's not the important thing." "If you're thinking about valuation, the markets will look five to 10 years out to answer that question, they're not going to give you a premium valuation on something that they feel could be fragile in the first two to three years." "Somebody has to answer that question precisely. Because if the answer is that it is a duopoly, then there is no risk to the revenue five to 10 years from now, these things are $5 to $10 trillion companies each." "But if there are harnesses that cut the token consumption, because you stop wasting tokens to get to the same output, then it's a little bit more of a question mark. And I think that'll need to get sorted out."

Chamath says OpenAI and Anthropic could be $5 to $10 trillion companies each if they remain a duopoly "I suspect revenues are going to crank at OpenAI and Anthropic and the open labs for a while. But again, that's not the important thing." "If you're thinking about valuation, the markets will look five to 10 years out to answer that question, they're not going to give you a premium valuation on something that they feel could be fragile in the first two to three years." "Somebody has to answer that question precisely. Because if the answer is that it is a duopoly, then there is no risk to the revenue five to 10 years from now, these things are $5 to $10 trillion companies each." "But if there are harnesses that cut the token consumption, because you stop wasting tokens to get to the same output, then it's a little bit more of a question mark. And I think that'll need to get sorted out."

dnap

266,297 görüntüleme • 8 gün önce

I know your timeline is flooded now with word salads of "insane, HER, 10 features you missed, we're so back". Sit down. Chill. Take a deep breath like Mark does in the demo . Let's think step by step: - Technique-wise, OpenAI has figured out a way to map audio to audio directly as first-class modality, and stream videos to a transformer in real-time. These require some new research on tokenization and architecture, but overall it's a data and system optimization problem (as most things are). High-quality data can come from at least 2 sources: 1) Naturally occurring dialogues on YouTube, podcasts, TV series, movies, etc. Whisper can be trained to identify speaker turns in a dialogue or separate overlapping speeches for automated annotation. 2) Synthetic data. Run the slow 3-stage pipeline using the most powerful models: speech1->text1 (ASR), text1->text2 (LLM), text2->speech2 (TTS). The middle LLM can decide when to stop and also simulate how to resume from interruption. It could output additional "thought traces" that are not verbalized to help generate better reply. Then GPT-4o distills directly from speech1->speech2, with optional auxiliary loss functions based on the 3-stage data. After distillation, these behaviors are now baked into the model without emitting intermediate texts. On the system side: the latency would not meet real-time threshold if every video frame is decompressed into an RGB image. OpenAI has likely developed their own neural-first, streaming video codec to transmit the motion deltas as tokens. The communication protocol and NN inference must be co-optimized. For example, there could be a small and energy-efficient NN running on the edge device that decides to transmit more tokens if the video is interesting, and fewer otherwise. - I didn't expect GPT-4o to be closer to GPT-5, the rumored "Arrakis" model that takes multimodal in and out. In fact, it's likely an early checkpoint of GPT-5 that hasn't finished training yet. The branding betrays a certain insecurity. Ahead of Google I/O, OpenAI would rather beat our mental projection of GPT-4.5 than disappoint by missing the sky-high expectation for GPT-5. A smart move to buy more time. - Notably, the assistant is much more lively and even a bit flirty. GPT-4o is trying (perhaps a bit too hard) to sound like HER. OpenAI is eating Character AI's lunch, with almost 100% overlap in form factor and huge distribution channels. It's a pivot towards more emotional AI with strong personality, which OpenAI seemed to actively suppress in the past. - Whoever wins Apple first wins big time. I see 3 levels of integration with iOS: 1) Ditch Siri. OpenAI distills a smaller-tier, purely on-device GPT-4o for iOS, with optional paid upgrade to use the cloud. 2) Native features to stream the camera or screen into the model. Chip-level support for neural audio/video codec. 3) Integrate with iOS system-level action API and smart home APIs. No one uses Siri Shortcuts, but it's time to resurrect. This could become the AI agent product with a billion users from the get-go. The FSD for smartphones with a Tesla-scale data flywheel.

I know your timeline is flooded now with word salads of "insane, HER, 10 features you missed, we're so back". Sit down. Chill. Take a deep breath like Mark does in the demo . Let's think step by step: - Technique-wise, OpenAI has figured out a way to map audio to audio directly as first-class modality, and stream videos to a transformer in real-time. These require some new research on tokenization and architecture, but overall it's a data and system optimization problem (as most things are). High-quality data can come from at least 2 sources: 1) Naturally occurring dialogues on YouTube, podcasts, TV series, movies, etc. Whisper can be trained to identify speaker turns in a dialogue or separate overlapping speeches for automated annotation. 2) Synthetic data. Run the slow 3-stage pipeline using the most powerful models: speech1->text1 (ASR), text1->text2 (LLM), text2->speech2 (TTS). The middle LLM can decide when to stop and also simulate how to resume from interruption. It could output additional "thought traces" that are not verbalized to help generate better reply. Then GPT-4o distills directly from speech1->speech2, with optional auxiliary loss functions based on the 3-stage data. After distillation, these behaviors are now baked into the model without emitting intermediate texts. On the system side: the latency would not meet real-time threshold if every video frame is decompressed into an RGB image. OpenAI has likely developed their own neural-first, streaming video codec to transmit the motion deltas as tokens. The communication protocol and NN inference must be co-optimized. For example, there could be a small and energy-efficient NN running on the edge device that decides to transmit more tokens if the video is interesting, and fewer otherwise. - I didn't expect GPT-4o to be closer to GPT-5, the rumored "Arrakis" model that takes multimodal in and out. In fact, it's likely an early checkpoint of GPT-5 that hasn't finished training yet. The branding betrays a certain insecurity. Ahead of Google I/O, OpenAI would rather beat our mental projection of GPT-4.5 than disappoint by missing the sky-high expectation for GPT-5. A smart move to buy more time. - Notably, the assistant is much more lively and even a bit flirty. GPT-4o is trying (perhaps a bit too hard) to sound like HER. OpenAI is eating Character AI's lunch, with almost 100% overlap in form factor and huge distribution channels. It's a pivot towards more emotional AI with strong personality, which OpenAI seemed to actively suppress in the past. - Whoever wins Apple first wins big time. I see 3 levels of integration with iOS: 1) Ditch Siri. OpenAI distills a smaller-tier, purely on-device GPT-4o for iOS, with optional paid upgrade to use the cloud. 2) Native features to stream the camera or screen into the model. Chip-level support for neural audio/video codec. 3) Integrate with iOS system-level action API and smart home APIs. No one uses Siri Shortcuts, but it's time to resurrect. This could become the AI agent product with a billion users from the get-go. The FSD for smartphones with a Tesla-scale data flywheel.

Jim Fan

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🚨 OPENAI'S "SPUD" IS ALREADY IN THE WILD (AND IT RIVALS MYTHOS) Brad Gerstner just went on the All-In Podcast and confirmed that OpenAI's highly anticipated "Spud" model (expected to be GPT-5.5) is already being tested behind closed doors and the early reviews are insane. Addressing the recent wave of skepticism surrounding the company, Gerstner claims we are currently at "peak OpenAI FUD," warning that: "It would be seriously foolish to count out OpenAI... it starts with great researchers and great models. And I think when you see the Spud model they're about ready to release, I think it's going to be an excellent model, shows that they're firmly on the wave." When Jason Calacanis presses him on whether anyone has actually gotten their hands on the new model yet, Gerstner confirms the quiet rollout, stating that: "People are using Spud, right? So it is being previewed." When asked exactly what those early testers are saying about its capabilities, Gerstner drops a massive comparison, revealing that: "They're telling us that it's an incredible model on par with Mythos, right? And that it's a very usable model in terms of how it's packaged."

🚨 OPENAI'S "SPUD" IS ALREADY IN THE WILD (AND IT RIVALS MYTHOS) Brad Gerstner just went on the All-In Podcast and confirmed that OpenAI's highly anticipated "Spud" model (expected to be GPT-5.5) is already being tested behind closed doors and the early reviews are insane. Addressing the recent wave of skepticism surrounding the company, Gerstner claims we are currently at "peak OpenAI FUD," warning that: "It would be seriously foolish to count out OpenAI... it starts with great researchers and great models. And I think when you see the Spud model they're about ready to release, I think it's going to be an excellent model, shows that they're firmly on the wave." When Jason Calacanis presses him on whether anyone has actually gotten their hands on the new model yet, Gerstner confirms the quiet rollout, stating that: "People are using Spud, right? So it is being previewed." When asked exactly what those early testers are saying about its capabilities, Gerstner drops a massive comparison, revealing that: "They're telling us that it's an incredible model on par with Mythos, right? And that it's a very usable model in terms of how it's packaged."

Chris

138,250 görüntüleme • 4 ay önce