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Optional or not: I hate companies who hurt their consumers. Introducing custody for a hardware wallet company is a no go. F* Ledger.

422,297 Aufrufe • vor 3 Jahren •via X (Twitter)

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My name? Not important!vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger I don't get it. Its optional. Ledger is trying to get customers who are scared of losing their passphrase by offering them another option. I have a ledger - I will not be using this option. I am as safe as I was before it was an option. Am I missing something?

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Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger As long as you don’t opt in their new service you are fine. For me personally, I don’t want to support hardware companies who wanna make a quick buck with people innocent enough to use their new ID-based recovery service.

Profilbild von My name? Not important!
My name? Not important!vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger I already bought their device - use it or not I don't think they get any further financial benefit so destroying it just seems to hurt me (to the cost of an alternative device). If it hits their sales of new devices badly then I guess they will withdraw the service.

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₿rainvor 3 Jahren

@CarlBMenger @Ledger It's not about their sales it's about your money. If you're ok holding your life savings in a hot wallet that's your problem.

Profilbild von My name? Not important!
My name? Not important!vor 3 Jahren

@CarlBMenger @Ledger But if I don't give it permission its a cold wallet right? I am not OK with a Hot Wallet as my permanent store - I just store $BTC on it and only send to and from my hot wallet (Exodus as it happens).

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₿rainvor 3 Jahren

@CarlBMenger @Ledger We don't know because the source code is closed. For all we know it always had the ability to send your key over the USB port and it doesn't need permission to do it all the time. If you're not ok with your keys being on a hot device you should switch, Ledger is a hot device.

Profilbild von My name? Not important!
My name? Not important!vor 3 Jahren

@CarlBMenger @Ledger Oh - I get it. Crap. Trezor?

Profilbild von El Protta KLV 30% 🟣 🇦🇷
El Protta KLV 30% 🟣 🇦🇷vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger It's time to give a chance to those who want to do things right and are not yet known in the market #kleversafe, fast, safe and submersible. #klever

Profilbild von ᗪ乇千丨_乙ㄖㄖ尺卂匚乇尺9000🔺| 匚卂ㄒ卂ㄥㄚ丂ㄒ 乃尺ㄖ😎
ᗪ乇千丨_乙ㄖㄖ尺卂匚乇尺9000🔺| 匚卂ㄒ卂ㄥㄚ丂ㄒ 乃尺ㄖ😎vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger lol the new update doesnt apply to nano S

Profilbild von Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger It’s not applying yet.

Profilbild von ᗪ乇千丨_乙ㄖㄖ尺卂匚乇尺9000🔺| 匚卂ㄒ卂ㄥㄚ丂ㄒ 乃尺ㄖ😎
ᗪ乇千丨_乙ㄖㄖ尺卂匚乇尺9000🔺| 匚卂ㄒ卂ㄥㄚ丂ㄒ 乃尺ㄖ😎vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger nano S does not equal nano S+

Profilbild von Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

Video from my good friend @lightningcuddy 🧡

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Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

Because a lot of people are asking: I am currently using the BitBox #Bitcoin only hardware wallet.

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Rick Lennonvor 3 Jahren

Good choice. I also use the Bitbox.

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Mauro Innocenzivor 3 Jahren

@KupandaTwelve @CarlBMenger Are passphrases easy to switch?

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Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

@KupandaTwelve What you mean?

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Mauro Innocenzivor 3 Jahren

@KupandaTwelve I have different passphrases. I don't like coldcard because it is too long with the keyboard and if you memorize them on the sim card, it is an added problem. Ledger was also a disaster. Trezor is great for it. So my question is basically: how do you switch from one to another?

Profilbild von Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

@KupandaTwelve Either you start from 0 by setting up a new privat seed and write down those 24 words and send the funds to your new address or you put in your existing privat key.

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jeiku.algovor 3 Jahren

@Ledger

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Vikingovor 3 Jahren

@HODLneverSODL @Ledger Should’ve used it as a decoy wallet….

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flyguy.eth 🦇🔊🛡️(🦄,🦄)vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Oh dear… you need help. I think you’ve over reacted a bit. What a waste of a good device. The Nano S (the one you destroyed) isn’t getting the firmware update. 😂

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Bitcoin MaXiMaLiStvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Is @Ledger the next Bud Light 🤔

Profilbild von TEACH ME BITCOIN, SON.
TEACH ME BITCOIN, SON.vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger

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Duo Nine ⚡ YCCvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Is that your ledger? 😅

Profilbild von Jean Dunning-Kruger
Jean Dunning-Krugervor 3 Jahren

@Ledger

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Victor Nogueravor 3 Jahren

@Ledger I know is opt-in but I wont be using them again. I’ll stick to Samourai connected to my own Dojo.

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DSAMining (Dan)vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Hell yeah! Brother I am going to be breaking my @Ledger too. I am done with the company.

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Rob Ledervor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Yeah, I have to switch. I thought the point of a signing device was to secure keys? Now I’m confused and a little worried that when I have that USB stick plugged in, Ledger has a way to access my keys if they wanted to. How do I get proof from any device that no back door exists?

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BTSeevor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Just a reminder, it's not good enough to destroy an HD wallet. Reminds me of the scenes in movies where people shoot the computer monitor to "disable" it (psst, everything is on the hard drive). You have to create new keys and address(es) and transfer all your coins to it(them).

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Orange Pillvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger I don’t understand why people are going to TREZOR when they have the exact same Shamir protocol as ledger

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G G Gvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger

Profilbild von Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Damn, one hit!

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G G Gvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger It even turned on the car sales lot alarm the impact of the sledgehammer on the street

Profilbild von The Austrian
The Austrianvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger @Ledger harms consumers, should compensate its customers forced to trash their device. #Bitcoin + COLD STORAGE

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∞/21M ₿ ⚡ @DMNvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger

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Robin Dubsvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Nano S will not support Ledger Recovery You destroyed a device that will never have the potential backdoor

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extramediumvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger little tiny baby swings have some conviction

Profilbild von Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger I currently use this one and I am pretty happy:

Profilbild von Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Also recommend #ColdCard and #Jade.

Profilbild von 🛡️ || (d/acc)
🛡️ || (d/acc)vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger I just want my refund

Profilbild von JT | BLKBöX Trading 🤖
JT | BLKBöX Trading 🤖vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger It’s not all bad, ads redundancy to a multi sig🤷‍♂️

Profilbild von Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

@p2ptrades @Ledger Linking your hardware wallet to your ID and giving @Ledger even more personal data, despite the fact they handled those poorly in the past, is just ridiculous IMO.

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weristgeisterkrankvor 3 Jahren

@p2ptrades @Ledger every hardware wallet in this world is going to get there. (in terms of regualtions) pls don‘t think that MICA or some other regulatory allow transactions over 1000$ from a HW wallet without KYC😂 We are so early by seeing all this „experts“ crying and destroying their @Ledger

Profilbild von JT | BLKBöX Trading 🤖
JT | BLKBöX Trading 🤖vor 3 Jahren

@CarlBMenger @Ledger But not all hardware wallets need to comply. There are open source options like Seed signer, cold card, and foundation. Im building my out HW soon. There will always be options out there.

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nordin.ethvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Ledger done fucked up a few too many times. First it was the data leaks, now this?

Profilbild von Reece ⚡🌎
Reece ⚡🌎vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger #destroyledgerwalletnow!

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Vaclavvor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Bear market things I suppose

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Jean Meyervor 3 Jahren

@Ledger @Ledger hasn’t released a custody feature. Just DYOR. I’m amazed by the number of influencers in this ecosystem who don’t even understand that one encrypted shard != your seed phrase.

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Macek Puschvor 3 Jahren

@HODLneverSODL @Ledger Trezor is the only way for me.

Profilbild von Droppin’🗯️
Droppin’🗯️vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger You must have a lot to hide. And for the attention you want. Unreal but it’s real. I love my life. I’m very fortunate.

Profilbild von Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻vor 3 Jahren

@Ledger It is none of your business

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øxBlockDAGvor 3 Jahren

Now we know the motivation. The fee for this recovery service is $9.99 a month. I would never enable this feature and I am not pleased that it even exists as an option. That brings up another concern - are they doing this without permission. Geez, the greed.

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CuriousKiwivor 3 Jahren

@Ledger Lol you smashed an old Nano S which is not compaitable with the recover feature, why lol? It only impacts the X and S plus.

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UserInterfacevor 5 Jahren

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