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Optional or not: I hate companies who hurt their consumers. Introducing custody for a hardware wallet company is a no go. F* Ledger.

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My name? Not important! 的头像
My name? Not important!3 年前

@Ledger I don't get it. Its optional. Ledger is trying to get customers who are scared of losing their passphrase by offering them another option. I have a ledger - I will not be using this option. I am as safe as I was before it was an option. Am I missing something?

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

@Ledger As long as you don’t opt in their new service you are fine. For me personally, I don’t want to support hardware companies who wanna make a quick buck with people innocent enough to use their new ID-based recovery service.

My name? Not important! 的头像
My name? Not important!3 年前

@Ledger I already bought their device - use it or not I don't think they get any further financial benefit so destroying it just seems to hurt me (to the cost of an alternative device). If it hits their sales of new devices badly then I guess they will withdraw the service.

₿rain 的头像
₿rain3 年前

@CarlBMenger @Ledger It's not about their sales it's about your money. If you're ok holding your life savings in a hot wallet that's your problem.

My name? Not important! 的头像
My name? Not important!3 年前

@CarlBMenger @Ledger But if I don't give it permission its a cold wallet right? I am not OK with a Hot Wallet as my permanent store - I just store $BTC on it and only send to and from my hot wallet (Exodus as it happens).

₿rain 的头像
₿rain3 年前

@CarlBMenger @Ledger We don't know because the source code is closed. For all we know it always had the ability to send your key over the USB port and it doesn't need permission to do it all the time. If you're not ok with your keys being on a hot device you should switch, Ledger is a hot device.

My name? Not important! 的头像
My name? Not important!3 年前

@CarlBMenger @Ledger Oh - I get it. Crap. Trezor?

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El Protta KLV 30% 🟣 🇦🇷3 年前

@Ledger It's time to give a chance to those who want to do things right and are not yet known in the market #kleversafe, fast, safe and submersible. #klever

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@Ledger lol the new update doesnt apply to nano S

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

@Ledger It’s not applying yet.

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@Ledger nano S does not equal nano S+

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

Video from my good friend @lightningcuddy 🧡

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

Because a lot of people are asking: I am currently using the BitBox #Bitcoin only hardware wallet.

Rick Lennon 的头像
Rick Lennon3 年前

Good choice. I also use the Bitbox.

Mauro Innocenzi 的头像
Mauro Innocenzi3 年前

@KupandaTwelve @CarlBMenger Are passphrases easy to switch?

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

@KupandaTwelve What you mean?

Mauro Innocenzi 的头像
Mauro Innocenzi3 年前

@KupandaTwelve I have different passphrases. I don't like coldcard because it is too long with the keyboard and if you memorize them on the sim card, it is an added problem. Ledger was also a disaster. Trezor is great for it. So my question is basically: how do you switch from one to another?

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

@KupandaTwelve Either you start from 0 by setting up a new privat seed and write down those 24 words and send the funds to your new address or you put in your existing privat key.

jeiku.algo 的头像
jeiku.algo3 年前

@Ledger

Vikingo 的头像
Vikingo3 年前

@HODLneverSODL @Ledger Should’ve used it as a decoy wallet….

flyguy.eth 🦇🔊🛡️(🦄,🦄) 的头像
flyguy.eth 🦇🔊🛡️(🦄,🦄)3 年前

@Ledger Oh dear… you need help. I think you’ve over reacted a bit. What a waste of a good device. The Nano S (the one you destroyed) isn’t getting the firmware update. 😂

Bitcoin MaXiMaLiSt 的头像
Bitcoin MaXiMaLiSt3 年前

@Ledger Is @Ledger the next Bud Light 🤔

TEACH ME BITCOIN, SON. 的头像
TEACH ME BITCOIN, SON.3 年前

@Ledger

Duo Nine ⚡ YCC 的头像
Duo Nine ⚡ YCC3 年前

@Ledger Is that your ledger? 😅

Jean Dunning-Kruger 的头像
Jean Dunning-Kruger3 年前

@Ledger

Victor Noguera 的头像
Victor Noguera3 年前

@Ledger I know is opt-in but I wont be using them again. I’ll stick to Samourai connected to my own Dojo.

DSAMining (Dan) 的头像
DSAMining (Dan)3 年前

@Ledger Hell yeah! Brother I am going to be breaking my @Ledger too. I am done with the company.

Rob Leder 的头像
Rob Leder3 年前

@Ledger Yeah, I have to switch. I thought the point of a signing device was to secure keys? Now I’m confused and a little worried that when I have that USB stick plugged in, Ledger has a way to access my keys if they wanted to. How do I get proof from any device that no back door exists?

BTSee 的头像
BTSee3 年前

@Ledger Just a reminder, it's not good enough to destroy an HD wallet. Reminds me of the scenes in movies where people shoot the computer monitor to "disable" it (psst, everything is on the hard drive). You have to create new keys and address(es) and transfer all your coins to it(them).

Orange Pill 的头像
Orange Pill3 年前

@Ledger I don’t understand why people are going to TREZOR when they have the exact same Shamir protocol as ledger

G G G 的头像
G G G3 年前

@Ledger

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

@Ledger Damn, one hit!

G G G 的头像
G G G3 年前

@Ledger It even turned on the car sales lot alarm the impact of the sledgehammer on the street

The Austrian 的头像
The Austrian3 年前

@Ledger @Ledger harms consumers, should compensate its customers forced to trash their device. #Bitcoin + COLD STORAGE

∞/21M ₿ ⚡ @DMN 的头像
∞/21M ₿ ⚡ @DMN3 年前

@Ledger

Robin Dubs 的头像
Robin Dubs3 年前

@Ledger Nano S will not support Ledger Recovery You destroyed a device that will never have the potential backdoor

extramedium 的头像
extramedium3 年前

@Ledger little tiny baby swings have some conviction

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

@Ledger I currently use this one and I am pretty happy:

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

@Ledger Also recommend #ColdCard and #Jade.

🛡️ || (d/acc) 的头像
🛡️ || (d/acc)3 年前

@Ledger I just want my refund

JT | BLKBöX Trading 🤖 的头像
JT | BLKBöX Trading 🤖3 年前

@Ledger It’s not all bad, ads redundancy to a multi sig🤷‍♂️

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

@p2ptrades @Ledger Linking your hardware wallet to your ID and giving @Ledger even more personal data, despite the fact they handled those poorly in the past, is just ridiculous IMO.

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weristgeisterkrank3 年前

@p2ptrades @Ledger every hardware wallet in this world is going to get there. (in terms of regualtions) pls don‘t think that MICA or some other regulatory allow transactions over 1000$ from a HW wallet without KYC😂 We are so early by seeing all this „experts“ crying and destroying their @Ledger

JT | BLKBöX Trading 🤖 的头像
JT | BLKBöX Trading 🤖3 年前

@CarlBMenger @Ledger But not all hardware wallets need to comply. There are open source options like Seed signer, cold card, and foundation. Im building my out HW soon. There will always be options out there.

nordin.eth 的头像
nordin.eth3 年前

@Ledger Ledger done fucked up a few too many times. First it was the data leaks, now this?

Reece ⚡🌎 的头像
Reece ⚡🌎3 年前

@Ledger #destroyledgerwalletnow!

Vaclav 的头像
Vaclav3 年前

@Ledger Bear market things I suppose

Jean Meyer 的头像
Jean Meyer3 年前

@Ledger @Ledger hasn’t released a custody feature. Just DYOR. I’m amazed by the number of influencers in this ecosystem who don’t even understand that one encrypted shard != your seed phrase.

Macek Pusch 的头像
Macek Pusch3 年前

@HODLneverSODL @Ledger Trezor is the only way for me.

Droppin’🗯️ 的头像
Droppin’🗯️3 年前

@Ledger You must have a lot to hide. And for the attention you want. Unreal but it’s real. I love my life. I’m very fortunate.

Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻 的头像
Carl ₿ MENGER ⚡️🇸🇻3 年前

@Ledger It is none of your business

øxBlockDAG 的头像
øxBlockDAG3 年前

Now we know the motivation. The fee for this recovery service is $9.99 a month. I would never enable this feature and I am not pleased that it even exists as an option. That brings up another concern - are they doing this without permission. Geez, the greed.

CuriousKiwi 的头像
CuriousKiwi3 年前

@Ledger Lol you smashed an old Nano S which is not compaitable with the recover feature, why lol? It only impacts the X and S plus.

UserInterface 的头像
UserInterface5 年前

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