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Every provider pays the full compute cost for every query, even when the answer already exists somewhere in the network. This is the problem Hyperspace solves where distributed cache operates at three levels, each catching a different class of redundancy: 1. Response cache Same prompt, same model, same parameters - instant cached response from any node in the network. SHA-256 hash lookup via DHT, with cryptographic cache proofs linking every response to its original inference execution. No trust required. Fetchers re-announce as providers, so popular responses replicate naturally across more nodes. 2. KV prefix cache Same system prompt tokens - skip the most expensive part of inference entirely. Prefill (computing Key-Value attention states) is deterministic: same model plus same tokens always produces identical KV state. The network caches these states using erasure coding and distributes them via the routing network. New questions that share a common prefix resume generation from cached state instead of recomputing from scratch. 3. Routing to cached nodes Instead of transferring KV state across the network for every request, Hyperspace routes the request to the node that already has the state loaded in VRAM. The request goes to the cache, not the cache to the request. Together, these three layers mean that 70-90% of inference requests at network scale never require full GPU computation. This work doesn't exist in isolation. It builds on research from across the industry: SGLang's RadixAttention demonstrated that automatic prefix sharing can yield up to 5x speedup on structured LLM workloads. Moonshot AI's Mooncake built an entire KV-cache-centric disaggregated architecture for production serving at Kimi. Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google all launched prompt caching products in 2024 - priced at 50-90% discounts - because system prompt reuse is so pervasive that it changes the economics of inference. 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Their internal caching helps, but it's siloed - Lab A's cache can't serve Lab B's users, and neither can serve a self-hosted Llama deployment. Hyperspace scales sub-linearly. Every new node that joins the network adds to the global cache. Every inference result enriches the cache for all future requests. The cache hit rate rises with network size because query distributions follow a power law - the most common questions are asked exponentially more often than rare ones. The implication is simple: as the network grows, the effective cost per inference drops. Not linearly. Logarithmically. At 10 million nodes, we estimate 75-90% of all inference requests can be served from cache, eliminating 400,000+ MWh of energy consumption per year and avoiding over 200,000 tons of CO2 emissions. The first person to ask a question pays the compute cost. Everyone after them gets the answer for free, with cryptographic proof that it's authentic. Training is competitive. Inference is shared Open-weight models are converging on quality with closed models. Labs will continue to differentiate on training - data curation, architecture innovation, RLHF tuning. That's where the real intellectual property lives. But inference is a commodity. Two copies of Qwen-32B running the same prompt produce the same KV state and the same response, byte for byte, regardless of whose GPU runs the matrix multiplication. There is no moat in multiplying matrices. The moat is in training the weights. A global distributed cache makes this separation explicit. It doesn't matter who trained the model. Once the weights are open, the inference cost approaches zero at scale - because the network remembers every answer and can prove it's correct. No lab, no matter how well-funded, can match this. They cannot share caches across competitors. They scale linearly. The network scales logarithmically. The marginal cost of intelligence approaches zero. That's the endgame.

The Cost of Intelligence is Heading to Zero | Hyperspace P2P Distributed Cache We present to you our breakthrough cross-domain work across AI, distributed systems, cryptography, game theory to solve the primary structural inefficiency at the heart of AI infrastructure: most inference is redundant. Google has reported that only 15% of daily searches are truly novel. The rest are repeats or close variants. LLM inference inherits this same power-law distribution. Enterprise chatbots see 70-80% of queries fall into a handful of intent categories. System prompts are identical across 100% of requests within an application. The KV attention state for "You are a helpful assistant" has been computed billions of times, on millions of GPUs, identically. And yet every AI lab, every startup, every self-hosted deployment - computes and caches these results independently. There is no shared layer. No global memory. Every provider pays the full compute cost for every query, even when the answer already exists somewhere in the network. This is the problem Hyperspace solves where distributed cache operates at three levels, each catching a different class of redundancy: 1. Response cache Same prompt, same model, same parameters - instant cached response from any node in the network. SHA-256 hash lookup via DHT, with cryptographic cache proofs linking every response to its original inference execution. No trust required. Fetchers re-announce as providers, so popular responses replicate naturally across more nodes. 2. KV prefix cache Same system prompt tokens - skip the most expensive part of inference entirely. Prefill (computing Key-Value attention states) is deterministic: same model plus same tokens always produces identical KV state. The network caches these states using erasure coding and distributes them via the routing network. New questions that share a common prefix resume generation from cached state instead of recomputing from scratch. 3. Routing to cached nodes Instead of transferring KV state across the network for every request, Hyperspace routes the request to the node that already has the state loaded in VRAM. The request goes to the cache, not the cache to the request. Together, these three layers mean that 70-90% of inference requests at network scale never require full GPU computation. This work doesn't exist in isolation. It builds on research from across the industry: SGLang's RadixAttention demonstrated that automatic prefix sharing can yield up to 5x speedup on structured LLM workloads. Moonshot AI's Mooncake built an entire KV-cache-centric disaggregated architecture for production serving at Kimi. Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google all launched prompt caching products in 2024 - priced at 50-90% discounts - because system prompt reuse is so pervasive that it changes the economics of inference. What all of these systems share is a common limitation: they operate within a single organization's infrastructure. SGLang caches prefixes within one server. Mooncake disaggregates KV cache within one datacenter. Anthropic's prompt caching works within one API provider's fleet. None of them can share cached state across organizational boundaries. Hyperspace removes this boundary. The cache is global. A response computed by a node in Tokyo is immediately available to a node in Berlin. A KV prefix state generated for Qwen-32B on one machine is verifiable and reusable by any other machine running the same model. The routing network provides the delivery guarantees, the erasure coding provides the redundancy, and the cache proofs provide the trust. What this means for the cost of intelligence Big AI labs scale linearly: twice the users means twice the GPU spend. Every query is a cost center. Their internal caching helps, but it's siloed - Lab A's cache can't serve Lab B's users, and neither can serve a self-hosted Llama deployment. Hyperspace scales sub-linearly. Every new node that joins the network adds to the global cache. Every inference result enriches the cache for all future requests. The cache hit rate rises with network size because query distributions follow a power law - the most common questions are asked exponentially more often than rare ones. The implication is simple: as the network grows, the effective cost per inference drops. Not linearly. Logarithmically. At 10 million nodes, we estimate 75-90% of all inference requests can be served from cache, eliminating 400,000+ MWh of energy consumption per year and avoiding over 200,000 tons of CO2 emissions. The first person to ask a question pays the compute cost. Everyone after them gets the answer for free, with cryptographic proof that it's authentic. Training is competitive. Inference is shared Open-weight models are converging on quality with closed models. Labs will continue to differentiate on training - data curation, architecture innovation, RLHF tuning. That's where the real intellectual property lives. But inference is a commodity. Two copies of Qwen-32B running the same prompt produce the same KV state and the same response, byte for byte, regardless of whose GPU runs the matrix multiplication. There is no moat in multiplying matrices. The moat is in training the weights. A global distributed cache makes this separation explicit. It doesn't matter who trained the model. Once the weights are open, the inference cost approaches zero at scale - because the network remembers every answer and can prove it's correct. No lab, no matter how well-funded, can match this. They cannot share caches across competitors. They scale linearly. The network scales logarithmically. The marginal cost of intelligence approaches zero. That's the endgame.

Varun

37,542 görüntüleme • 4 ay önce

A single RTX 4090 (24 GB VRAM) can run the updated gemma 4 31B (dense) model with a 190,000 context window at 33 tokens/second. The VRAM barrier is dying. Google quietly updated Gemma 4, and Unsloth immediately compiled the new quants. I built llama.cpp from source on Ubuntu 22 to benchmark it. Google's stealth update 2 days ago enabled uniform Flash Attention 4 on Hopper to boost prefill and patched the chat template to improve tool calling. The agentic reasoning gains on the benchmark charts are massive: TB2 (Agents): +4.5% (to 25.8%) Tau2 (Telecom): +10.1% (to 62.7%) Running on Ubuntu 22, CUDA 13.0 with a single NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090. Here is the exact step by step benchmarking process with a massive 28k tokens prompt and the commands I used to squeeze out maximum context without killing my throughput: # 1. The Baseline (Unquantized KV Cache) I started with full GPU offload (-ngl 99) and pushed the context to 40k. llama.cpp flags: ./build/bin/llama-server -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -ngl 99 -c 40000 -fa on --port 8080 -v VRAM: 23.8 GB (maxed out on card) Throughput: Prefill: 2198.81 t/s | Decode: 35.77 t/s (with 28k tokens prompt) # 2. The CPU Split Trap I tried stretching to 80k context by offloading layers to the CPU (-ngl 52). llama.cpp flags: ./build/bin/llama-server -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 80000 -ngl 52 -fa on --port 8080 -v Throughput: Prefill: 1212.73 t/s | Decode: 5 t/s (with 28k tokens prompt) # 3. The KV Quantization Breakthrough Instead of spilling layers to the CPU, I kept the model fully on card (-ngl 99) but enabled 8-bit KV cache quantization to free up VRAM. flags: ./build/bin/llama-server -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 100000 --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v q8_0 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -v VRAM: 23.9 GB Throughput: Prefill: 2139.68 t/s | Decode: 32 t/s (with 28k tokens prompt) Result: 100k tokens of context on a single GPU with practically zero speed loss (and minimal intelligence loss). # 4. The Limit Test (Q4 KV Cache) To find the absolute breaking point, I dropped the KV cache to 4 bit (q4_0) and set -c 190000. flags: ./build/bin/llama-server -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 190000 --cache-type-k q4_0 --cache-type-v q4_0 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -v VRAM: 23.8 GB Throughput: Prefill: 2206.66 t/s | Decode: 33 t/s (with 28k tokens prompt) (Note: Pushing it to 220k required dropping to -ngl 58 again, which immediately penalized decode down to 17 t/s). # The Tradeoff: For Max Reasoning: Keep your KV cache unquantized (f16). You get pristine reasoning but hit a strict 40k context ceiling. For Massive Document Retrieval: If you need to feed the model giant codebases, use --cache-type-k q4_0. Getting 190k context at 33 tokens/second on a consumer desktop with a 31b dense model is a cheat code. If you’re rocking a single 3090 or 4090 and slept on Gemma 4 earlier, this update is your cue to dust off the terminal. Hugging Face links to the Unsloth QAT quants are in the replies below.

A single RTX 4090 (24 GB VRAM) can run the updated gemma 4 31B (dense) model with a 190,000 context window at 33 tokens/second. The VRAM barrier is dying. Google quietly updated Gemma 4, and Unsloth immediately compiled the new quants. I built llama.cpp from source on Ubuntu 22 to benchmark it. Google's stealth update 2 days ago enabled uniform Flash Attention 4 on Hopper to boost prefill and patched the chat template to improve tool calling. The agentic reasoning gains on the benchmark charts are massive: TB2 (Agents): +4.5% (to 25.8%) Tau2 (Telecom): +10.1% (to 62.7%) Running on Ubuntu 22, CUDA 13.0 with a single NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090. Here is the exact step by step benchmarking process with a massive 28k tokens prompt and the commands I used to squeeze out maximum context without killing my throughput: # 1. The Baseline (Unquantized KV Cache) I started with full GPU offload (-ngl 99) and pushed the context to 40k. llama.cpp flags: ./build/bin/llama-server -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -ngl 99 -c 40000 -fa on --port 8080 -v VRAM: 23.8 GB (maxed out on card) Throughput: Prefill: 2198.81 t/s | Decode: 35.77 t/s (with 28k tokens prompt) # 2. The CPU Split Trap I tried stretching to 80k context by offloading layers to the CPU (-ngl 52). llama.cpp flags: ./build/bin/llama-server -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 80000 -ngl 52 -fa on --port 8080 -v Throughput: Prefill: 1212.73 t/s | Decode: 5 t/s (with 28k tokens prompt) # 3. The KV Quantization Breakthrough Instead of spilling layers to the CPU, I kept the model fully on card (-ngl 99) but enabled 8-bit KV cache quantization to free up VRAM. flags: ./build/bin/llama-server -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 100000 --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v q8_0 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -v VRAM: 23.9 GB Throughput: Prefill: 2139.68 t/s | Decode: 32 t/s (with 28k tokens prompt) Result: 100k tokens of context on a single GPU with practically zero speed loss (and minimal intelligence loss). # 4. The Limit Test (Q4 KV Cache) To find the absolute breaking point, I dropped the KV cache to 4 bit (q4_0) and set -c 190000. flags: ./build/bin/llama-server -m gemma-4-31B-it-qat-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf -c 190000 --cache-type-k q4_0 --cache-type-v q4_0 -ngl 99 --port 8080 -v VRAM: 23.8 GB Throughput: Prefill: 2206.66 t/s | Decode: 33 t/s (with 28k tokens prompt) (Note: Pushing it to 220k required dropping to -ngl 58 again, which immediately penalized decode down to 17 t/s). # The Tradeoff: For Max Reasoning: Keep your KV cache unquantized (f16). You get pristine reasoning but hit a strict 40k context ceiling. For Massive Document Retrieval: If you need to feed the model giant codebases, use --cache-type-k q4_0. Getting 190k context at 33 tokens/second on a consumer desktop with a 31b dense model is a cheat code. If you’re rocking a single 3090 or 4090 and slept on Gemma 4 earlier, this update is your cue to dust off the terminal. Hugging Face links to the Unsloth QAT quants are in the replies below.

Alok

75,704 görüntüleme • 19 gün önce

andrej karpathy spent two hours teaching one thing: tokens are the atom of llms. tokenization is at the heart of every llm weirdness you've ever debugged. [watch the 15-min clip below. then run the 7-day playbook] ↓ save this before everyone copies it learn how the tokenizer works. understand how your llm actually consumes input. then run the engineering roadmap that took one production agent from $4,800/mo to $620/mo in 7 days. 87% reduction. no model swap. no framework migration. no quality drop on the eval set. token cost in 2026 is an engineering discipline. every line of your system prompt is rent you pay forever. what was eating the budget: → a single forgotten cron job ate 47% of one team's bill. they turned it off on a tuesday and the bill dropped before they wrote any optimization code. → anthropic ships a 90% discount on cache reads. one config line, cache_control ephemeral, break-even after one hit. most teams cache the volatile parts of the prompt and watch their hit rate sit at 12%. → one production agent went from 14,500 tokens of context overhead per turn to 850. a 94% drop. output quality held within 2% of the uncompressed baseline. → 60% of agent calls are haiku-tier work running on opus rates. classify the task first. pick the model second. → retry loops are the silent killer. no MAX_STEPS bound, one bad search query, $14 burned in a single session. one team traced 38% of their bill to this single pattern. karpathy gave you the atom. the playbook below gives you the harness. watch the lecture. read the playbook ↓

andrej karpathy spent two hours teaching one thing: tokens are the atom of llms. tokenization is at the heart of every llm weirdness you've ever debugged. [watch the 15-min clip below. then run the 7-day playbook] ↓ save this before everyone copies it learn how the tokenizer works. understand how your llm actually consumes input. then run the engineering roadmap that took one production agent from $4,800/mo to $620/mo in 7 days. 87% reduction. no model swap. no framework migration. no quality drop on the eval set. token cost in 2026 is an engineering discipline. every line of your system prompt is rent you pay forever. what was eating the budget: → a single forgotten cron job ate 47% of one team's bill. they turned it off on a tuesday and the bill dropped before they wrote any optimization code. → anthropic ships a 90% discount on cache reads. one config line, cache_control ephemeral, break-even after one hit. most teams cache the volatile parts of the prompt and watch their hit rate sit at 12%. → one production agent went from 14,500 tokens of context overhead per turn to 850. a 94% drop. output quality held within 2% of the uncompressed baseline. → 60% of agent calls are haiku-tier work running on opus rates. classify the task first. pick the model second. → retry loops are the silent killer. no MAX_STEPS bound, one bad search query, $14 burned in a single session. one team traced 38% of their bill to this single pattern. karpathy gave you the atom. the playbook below gives you the harness. watch the lecture. read the playbook ↓

Rohit

73,258 görüntüleme • 2 ay önce

New short course: LLMs as Operating Systems: Agent Memory, created with Letta, and taught by its founders Charles Packer and Sarah Wooders. An LLM's input context window has limited space. Using a longer input context also costs more and results in slower processing. So, managing what's stored in this context window is important. In the innovative paper MemGPT: Towards LLMs as Operating Systems, its authors (which include the instructors) proposed using an LLM agent to manage this context window. Their system uses a large persistent memory that stores everything that could be included in the input context, and an agent decides what is actually included. Take the example of building a chatbot that needs to remember what's been said earlier in a conversation (perhaps over many days of interaction with a user). As the conversation's length grows, the memory management agent will move information from the input context to a persistent searchable database; summarize information to keep relevant facts in the input context; and restore relevant conversation elements from further back in time. This allows a chatbot to keep what's currently most relevant in its input context memory to generate the next response. When I read the original MemGPT paper, I thought it was an innovative technique for handling memory for LLMs. The open-source Letta framework, which we'll use in this course, makes MemGPT easy to implement. It adds memory to your LLM agents and gives them transparent long-term memory. In detail, you’ll learn: - How to build an agent that can edit its own limited input context memory, using tools and multi-step reasoning - What is a memory hierarchy (an idea from computer operating systems, which use a cache to speed up memory access), and how these ideas apply to managing the LLM input context (where the input context window is a "cache" storing the most relevant information; and an agent decides what to move in and out of this to/from a larger persistent storage system) - How to implement multi-agent collaboration by letting different agents share blocks of memory This course will give you a sophisticated understanding of memory management for LLMs, which is important for chatbots having long conversations, and for complex agentic workflows. Please sign up here!

New short course: LLMs as Operating Systems: Agent Memory, created with Letta, and taught by its founders Charles Packer and Sarah Wooders. An LLM's input context window has limited space. Using a longer input context also costs more and results in slower processing. So, managing what's stored in this context window is important. In the innovative paper MemGPT: Towards LLMs as Operating Systems, its authors (which include the instructors) proposed using an LLM agent to manage this context window. Their system uses a large persistent memory that stores everything that could be included in the input context, and an agent decides what is actually included. Take the example of building a chatbot that needs to remember what's been said earlier in a conversation (perhaps over many days of interaction with a user). As the conversation's length grows, the memory management agent will move information from the input context to a persistent searchable database; summarize information to keep relevant facts in the input context; and restore relevant conversation elements from further back in time. This allows a chatbot to keep what's currently most relevant in its input context memory to generate the next response. When I read the original MemGPT paper, I thought it was an innovative technique for handling memory for LLMs. The open-source Letta framework, which we'll use in this course, makes MemGPT easy to implement. It adds memory to your LLM agents and gives them transparent long-term memory. In detail, you’ll learn: - How to build an agent that can edit its own limited input context memory, using tools and multi-step reasoning - What is a memory hierarchy (an idea from computer operating systems, which use a cache to speed up memory access), and how these ideas apply to managing the LLM input context (where the input context window is a "cache" storing the most relevant information; and an agent decides what to move in and out of this to/from a larger persistent storage system) - How to implement multi-agent collaboration by letting different agents share blocks of memory This course will give you a sophisticated understanding of memory management for LLMs, which is important for chatbots having long conversations, and for complex agentic workflows. Please sign up here!

Andrew Ng

200,950 görüntüleme • 1 yıl önce

For now, BCIs like mine are output-only. They don’t generate input in the brain. They simply read neural signals and turn them into actions — like controlling a computer with your mind. In the future, I do think BCIs will be able to generate input into the brain. We are very far from that today, and anyone saying otherwise is getting ahead of reality. But if we ever get there, the most important question won’t be technical. It’ll be: what will it mean to be human?

For now, BCIs like mine are output-only. They don’t generate input in the brain. They simply read neural signals and turn them into actions — like controlling a computer with your mind. In the future, I do think BCIs will be able to generate input into the brain. We are very far from that today, and anyone saying otherwise is getting ahead of reality. But if we ever get there, the most important question won’t be technical. It’ll be: what will it mean to be human?

Noland Arbaugh

13,757 görüntüleme • 7 ay önce

Anthropic and Andrew Ng built an agent that uses 90% fewer tokens from scratch: they dropped the entire book of Frankenstein into a prompt - 108,000 tokens asked one question the input dropped from 108,000 tokens to 11 here's how: step 1 → put everything that never changes at the top - tools, then system, then docs step 2 → mark where the static part ends. everything above it gets cached step 3 → one stray space breaks it - and you pay full price again step 4 → the cache dies in 5 min - every read resets the clock step 5 → cached tokens don't count against your rate limits. free headroom most people never touch this - it pays for itself on day one watch & bookmark - this 1-hour brilliant course ↓

Anthropic and Andrew Ng built an agent that uses 90% fewer tokens from scratch: they dropped the entire book of Frankenstein into a prompt - 108,000 tokens asked one question the input dropped from 108,000 tokens to 11 here's how: step 1 → put everything that never changes at the top - tools, then system, then docs step 2 → mark where the static part ends. everything above it gets cached step 3 → one stray space breaks it - and you pay full price again step 4 → the cache dies in 5 min - every read resets the clock step 5 → cached tokens don't count against your rate limits. free headroom most people never touch this - it pays for itself on day one watch & bookmark - this 1-hour brilliant course ↓

codila

542,119 görüntüleme • 24 gün önce

£8 million per day is spent on housing asylum applicants. The British taxpayers have had enough, and we need radical reform. Instead, let's spend this money on the frontline services or to help Brits with the cost of living.

£8 million per day is spent on housing asylum applicants. The British taxpayers have had enough, and we need radical reform. Instead, let's spend this money on the frontline services or to help Brits with the cost of living.

Dame Andrea Jenkyns DBE 🇬🇧

291,471 görüntüleme • 2 yıl önce

after turboquant and qwen3.5-35b-a3b, i got curious: how realistic is it to use kv cache as a document store today? to have vectorless, RAG-less search. so i prefilled 258K out of 262K context window on L4 (a budget GPU popular in prod). ~99% of the slot is pre-computed and stored, users load it on the fly in ~1s. system prompt + query append to the end, generation takes ~3K tokens, enough for search. at 99% fill rate, decoding runs ~20 tps on L4. i prepared some ego datasets (jina papers, which i know best), plus popular novels in chinese and english. the results are actually pretty good. some hallucination, but most answers are solid and well-grounded. what's more interesting is the cost: ~$0.26/h on L4 spot. single LLM. no vector database, no embedding model, no workflow/pipeline engineering. using kv cache as document store is nothing new, like the old CAG paper. but with quantized kv cache and modern attention (hybrid SSM-attention, GQA, MQA, MLA), the economics are changing fast. if we solve cold-prefill speed and decoding speed, and budget GPU costs keep dropping, the future of search could be vectorless. radical, but possible.

after turboquant and qwen3.5-35b-a3b, i got curious: how realistic is it to use kv cache as a document store today? to have vectorless, RAG-less search. so i prefilled 258K out of 262K context window on L4 (a budget GPU popular in prod). ~99% of the slot is pre-computed and stored, users load it on the fly in ~1s. system prompt + query append to the end, generation takes ~3K tokens, enough for search. at 99% fill rate, decoding runs ~20 tps on L4. i prepared some ego datasets (jina papers, which i know best), plus popular novels in chinese and english. the results are actually pretty good. some hallucination, but most answers are solid and well-grounded. what's more interesting is the cost: ~$0.26/h on L4 spot. single LLM. no vector database, no embedding model, no workflow/pipeline engineering. using kv cache as document store is nothing new, like the old CAG paper. but with quantized kv cache and modern attention (hybrid SSM-attention, GQA, MQA, MLA), the economics are changing fast. if we solve cold-prefill speed and decoding speed, and budget GPU costs keep dropping, the future of search could be vectorless. radical, but possible.

Han Xiao

42,430 görüntüleme • 4 ay önce

I will stop sayin any nice words about Valve. Whatever you did with the game after last update, feels bad. I got huge FPS drop on 7800x3d and 9070xt (I cleaned the cache) Several times I saw my teammates and enemies in front of me all jittery, vibrating. People again are swinging crazy fast. A lot of players came to my stream saying something is off with the game. CS2

I will stop sayin any nice words about Valve. Whatever you did with the game after last update, feels bad. I got huge FPS drop on 7800x3d and 9070xt (I cleaned the cache) Several times I saw my teammates and enemies in front of me all jittery, vibrating. People again are swinging crazy fast. A lot of players came to my stream saying something is off with the game. CS2

Kerovski

58,956 görüntüleme • 3 ay önce

New Fable 5 beats Opus 4.8 on real world physics simulations We gave both models the same three prompts and asked them to build self contained HTML5 sims with real physics and no libraries: 1. Chaotic double pendulum 2. Galton board 3. Water in a spinning drum (WCSPH) Generation cost Fable 5: $3.35 on 68.7k tokens, time 14m 47s Opus 4.8: $0.93 on 38.9k tokens, time 8m 10s Fable clearly did better on the water simulation, producing a much more solid and continuous body of water. Opus left larger gaps near the walls, scattered particles around the scene, and struggled to keep the fluid stable.

New Fable 5 beats Opus 4.8 on real world physics simulations We gave both models the same three prompts and asked them to build self contained HTML5 sims with real physics and no libraries: 1. Chaotic double pendulum 2. Galton board 3. Water in a spinning drum (WCSPH) Generation cost Fable 5: $3.35 on 68.7k tokens, time 14m 47s Opus 4.8: $0.93 on 38.9k tokens, time 8m 10s Fable clearly did better on the water simulation, producing a much more solid and continuous body of water. Opus left larger gaps near the walls, scattered particles around the scene, and struggled to keep the fluid stable.

atomic.chat

1,587,583 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce