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Our full conversation with Jesse Pollak 0:56 Who is Jesse Pollak 2:22 Why Base shifted focus 4:44 Handing the Base app to Cobie 5:32 Taking big bets 7:53 Creator coins 9:39 The DeFi mullet 16:05 Why builders choose Base 18:30 Venice and tokenized inference 20:40 Brian Armstrong's culture of... show more

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