POTENTIAL GAME thoughts after last week: -F2P model experiment for fighting games is done. Its not even that I think it CANT work, it just WONT, imo. -far from "dead," but it's just like any other game now, the community has to carry it-HARD. Full vid:

Free to play model just doesn't work for fighting games like imagine opening up a dbfz and the game said to progress the battle pass play nappa like fuck no

Not gonna hold you man this comment made me laugh. Good shit lmao

Just dont be a greedy fuck and sell $100 bundles , brawlhalla worked for almost an decade, and 2XKO isn't even a game , even less has a connection to league beside "here's a league character, ask someone that play league since the beginning and they'll know every piece of lore.

F2P when the norm for a new release is 60-70, just doesn't make sense to make it free. You can still have a competitive advantage selling in the 30-50 range 😭 Tbh the community is growing every year but people see the most viral game pop off and suddenly the fgc is "dead" 💀

This is definitely the wrong conclusion to draw imo. F2P can work for fighting games, but probably not at the standard of "game" they are now. 2xko only demonstrated that a game with poor marketing, confused direction and impatient backing wouldn't have immediate broad appeal.

Both games failing have nothing to do being free or not. They are just bad directed games. SNK keeps making those low quality games, nobody expects success. 2xko is criminal case of how not to make a game. We will support good fighting games, all they have to do is listen.

One reason FGs still struggle to engage long term is b/c they lack a social aspect found in team games and also ppl won't flock to where others aren't. I feel like DOA5 had a good enough model of F2P and was very casual friendly by its tutorial-like Story Mode. Img unrelated

If you are gonna do f2p, you need to have the content to support it. 2XKO just felt like it was half of what should have launched with.

I saw the 2XKO ads. I'm a fighting game player, the ads targeted me, not League of Legends players.

Yeah, since Warner Bros own both NRS and DC Comics, they can definitely pull off a proper DC game that has a 1v1 mode as f2p depending on how and what they market the game as. Marvel can too, but Disney will say no 100% of the time. Both have the popularity, history and money.

You mean...like multiversus? Lol.

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My biggest takeaway is how sad it is 2XKO won't be remembered for pushing the genre forward in any sense. I can't dwell on it in a "this dooms the genre" way with all of its missteps, but I sure expect to hear about it for the next decade 🙄

F2P for fighting games does not have to be over

@MicahOnline_ I chose my words carefully. What company as big as WB or Riot outside of JP devs would you want or expect to challenge the model and genre that way?

I dont really expect anyone to, would be happy with any big company doing it cause it can be successful if marketed correctly. Valve could do it if they wanted to, Blizzard, any company that has made ftp games as a service successfully could do it if they learn from riots failure

@MicahOnline_ again, i chose my words carefully. Do you think either of those companies will or would? i didnt say it COULDN'T...i said it WON'T

it’s hard to predict what a company WILL do especially when it comes to making brand new games. no time soon for sure but 5-10 years in the future I think it is inevitable that there will be a successful ftp fighting game. definitely could see valve doing it within that timeframe

I say Valve specifically because they seem mainly interested in being in the same space as Riot, that being video games as esports as a business

Brawlhalla

Thats not new

SF7 will be ftp with no motion inputs lol

Thoughts on the model KI and Granblue Rising used? As in having both a Premium version with most of the content but also a free ver with just a few chars and modes available. I feel like 2xko should've gone for something like that, rather than charging so much for skins.

Fatal Fury tried to actively abandon their audience to reach a larger demographic, ended up appealing to nobody. 2XKO tried to pander solely to small FGC crowds, appealed only to them and basically no one else. For some reason video game marketing has gone out the window

first sentence is fiction but last sentence is ok

i may be exaggerating slightly

You aren't exaggerating. You are just wrong. Legit have no idea why you typed that

thanks for the insights and hope

It works on a good game,if only Capcom tried with SF6 and actually pumped content like 20 costumes a year/6 characters. 2XKO would never work, looks visually dogshit, character design is so lame and ugly and function as reverse PR. Dota exists, Path of exile exists, need content

I’d also like to add Dnf duel in the discussion too like balance aside, it should have been way more popular given the install base

Idk how it applies to this conversation at all

@ATLFunkyP man need talk to you about this shit for sure. gonna watch this vid tonight!

The best f2p fighter was DOA5 but no one wants to hear that

Top 4 on playstation market. But the game is dead. Meanwhile this nigga was booting up melty in the washroom.

There's just not that many people that play fighting games and player retention outside of team games is hard except for the super dedicated competitive people. Flawed concept from the getgo sadly