Probably how Nolan turned Odysseus into a Jackass.

He's a bit of a jackass in the poem too

Yea. Nolan made it worse. Odysseus just doing these things without saying WHY.

@RyoTheCoper He literally says why in the movie

@RyoTheCoper And? Can't you tell me what he said? I don't remember as I have only seen the movie ONCE. Forgive me xD

@tommy02357937 @RyoTheCoper So your upset because you think he’s more of a jackass then the amount of jackass he’s in the poem how much is the threshold in the increase of his jackassness that made you upset

@YUou1053882 @tommy02357937 @RyoTheCoper One thing is to READ about Odysseus' hubris. But how Nolan decided to show it on screen? Pure un-intentional comedy xD I am not upset. Like AVATAR I am simply disappointed.

@YUou1053882 @tommy02357937 @RyoTheCoper I think you're just STUPID. Odysseus is wayyy bigger of a jackass in the poem. Nolan nerfed it, mainly because the things he did were plain dumb. The whole 'nobody' bit.

The nobody bit would have been basically IMPOSSIBLE to depict on screen because of the Greek translation and wording of "nobody". Shooting it with an arrow right after making such a narrow escape is quite a strange choice by Nolan. Just looked SO out of place. And made it funny. Like his Trinity explosion didn't look Nuclear in Oppenheimer. Nobody is Perfect.

He actually was a jackass in homer's poem though

He is a cunning jackass in the poem. Not an arrogant jackass like in the movie.

@MarvelousShifu What’s the difference exactly? He blows his own riddle in the poem? That doesn’t sound cunning.

@MarvelousShifu In the poem, Odysseus waits to taunt the Cyclops until he is FAR away and when its SAFE to do so. But in the movie he takes the rage-bait and fires an arrow right after a narrow escape. It just looked very silly! :) Big mistake either way yes ^

Odysseus was never a typical hero in the poem either. He’s a man with flaws.

For sure. This is why Athena likes him. He suffers. But on paper it does not come out as clearly as Nolan did it on film, in my opinion ;)

In Homer's version, Odysseus calls himself Nobody as a way to trick the Cyclops. Then after escaping he brags and reveals his real name, where the Cyclops then asks his father Poseidon to curse Odysseus and his crew. He was always a jackass.

I know. He was cunning with word trickery but sadly that did NOT come across in the movie. In the movie he simply takes the rage-bait....

If anyone spits out the helmet of a member of my crew that he just ate at me, I’m shooting an arrow in his eye too.

Sure thing kiddo.

@ThreeLeftThumbs You not real then 🤷🏼‍♂️

@ThreeLeftThumbs He would never have dared to shoot a CYCLOPS that ate 7 of Odysseus' men! These replies I am getting are pretty limp xD

I'm convinced the Odyssey is Nolan's love letter to Monty Python and the Holy Grail👏🏼

I want to edit in the KILLER RABBIT from Holy Grail into the Hades scene xD

@RJCE420 Please do! It will be amazing 🤣🤣🤣

@RJCE420

Ragebait. Worse than a beggar.

Rage? People should be laughing of how silly it was at times compared to the original poem. Then again most of these people have NOT read the poem xD But its ok. In the poem, Odysseus only taunts the Cyclops when he believes he is safe! Shooting it right after making a narrow escape looked so Disney-fied.

@KNOWtheLEDGE4 It's funny that the critics of this movie always come up with well-thought-out arguments, while Nolan's fans just act like 5-year-olds. That probably explains how they can ignore Nolan's repeated flaws.

@KNOWtheLEDGE4 Indeed. And its fine :) I've had my run-ins with the @NolanFans before. Bunch of wackjobs xD I am just happy to be alive in a time where Norway beats Brazil in the World Cup, AND we get to discuss The Odyssey to death <3

In the original epic he does something pretty similar, he shouts his real name to mock the cyclops after scaping, not knowing it’s a son of Poseidon, the god curses odysseus by making him wander the seas for 10 years and losing his entire crew

Exactly. Much better handled in the poem. Odysseus only taunts the Cyclops when he believes he is safe and far away.

He was way more of a jackass in Homers odyssey

Better portrayed in the poem than on screen in my opinion.

In the poem, Odysseus tells the Cyclopse his own name out of pure pride. That was even more jackass so then the Cyclopse could curse him with Poseidon.

Much better handled in the Poem: Only when Odysseus believes he is SAFE, does he taunt The Cyclops. And boy o boy was that a mistake. Shooting it right after making a sneaky escape? So silly..

That's a good point. Nolan's Odysseus is far different from the Homer's one.

I think I can discuss Nolan's and Homer's The Odyssey until I die <3 I don't hate the movie. I have issues with the soundtrack and some adaptation choices. But overall I am BEYOND HAPPY The Odyssey is being discussed all over social media. A perfect distraction.

Are you deadass!? I would have done the same thing 10x over fucking cyclops deserved it after chewing off his comrades heads! Fuck that cyclops good thing they stabbed it's eye and fuck Poseidon!

LOL the RAGE xD Thanks!

@FiyahBrand Must be fun navigating life being this fucking retarded

@FiyahBrand Just because you bleed every day does not mean you should hang around on X, cunt. I am having the time of my life discussing The Odyssey, for good and bad. And for the fun Nolan brought to it. Now shoo.

@FiyahBrand Lmao you pay for a free app your opinion is worth dogshit

@FiyahBrand Ooooh what a retort! You will never have a checkmark because you're a poor third world scum. Now shoo back to reddit.

He's way more of a jackass originally

And when reading the poem it makes sense. But watching it in the Nolan version it became funny ^ Forgive me.

Nolan actually made him less of an asshole. You have to remember in the original story they get cursed because Odysseus brags to the Cyclops that "it was Odysseus that tricked him", so when he prays to his father Poseidon he has a name to give him.

Exactly. In the poem, Odysseus WAITED until it was safe to taunt The Cyclops. Much smarter. Not very smart to shoot at it JUST after you made a narrow escape xD

In the movie, it came off as a moment of passion/rage. He was pissed about his men getting killed. In the original, he was just being a dick lol

I wish Nolan had included at least SOME of the dialogue between them.

he was more of a jackass than what nolan showed.

Its better to read about it than Nolan showing how silly he is. Not the entire movie of course but there are moments in the movie where I laughed un-inentionally. The editing made it all seem so janky and choppy and rushed.

He’s always been a jackass. Atleast with this there was a valid reason why he shot that arrow. Odysseus was never flawless

I never said he was flawless. I just thought it was funny how Nolan chose to portray it on screen ^ The editing was soo janky.

Yep. There’s no hint in Nolan’s Odyssey of Odysseus the “grand strategist” as Homer called him.

Exactly! Thank you <3 How Odysseus handled the Cyclops in Nolan's version became a pure "rage bait" moment xD

the most unecessary thing odysseus could do

The most unecessary cinematic TROPE :)

@cinevorafilms This exact scene is in the book, Odysseus is a jackass, this would be the only thing the film gets right. Lay off the slop posting and go back to first principle research, you are the problem.

@cinevorafilms The fuck are you yapping about. Its not exact. Odysseus taunts the Cyclops when he is FAR away and when its SAFE to do so. In the movie he takes the rage-bait and fires an arrow. Read the poem again ffs.

Tards trying to defend this are so pathetic, Nolan's inability to adapt that scene—by removing the "nobody" line—is proof that this movie is a joke, and anyone who defends it is a moron who'll swallow any piece of shit.

@LenoxKydo Portraying and translating the Nobody would be hard on screen I think. But it could certainly have been handled much better, and realistic. Odysseus taking the rage bait was pure sillyness to me.

Not really

True. But it FELT like un-intentional comedy :) Forgive me <3

The whole point of the story is he is a jackass and the gods punished him for it.

He’s more of an arrogant jackass in the poem 😭 Nolan gave him good PR

I didn't watch the Odyssey however the more I see, the more I hate it.

You should see it tho. The HADES scene alone is worth it ^

Nolan toned down Odysseus' jackassery

Just hating for engagment atp🥀🥀

Hating? Such crazy words. I am just disappointed. You know, like AVATAR.

Fr. Some parts felt underwhelming for a battle hardened barbarian

Because in the book he gets on the ship and as they’re sailing away he tells him his name. Which would be boring in a movie

Not really

He kept his honor in the end though. Into The West. Next to Gandalf and Frodo <3

Odysseus was always a jack ass. Nolan just shamed him for it. Lol

True xD I just thought the editing and pacing made it downright funny. After ALL THAT sneaking, he decides to get rage baited?

Точное попадание атмосферы 👍🤣

WTF taught him how to shoot a bow?????

Matt Damon has the same expression whenever he fires that bow xD -And when he fires a gun in Jason Bourne xD

Gruesome.

@Juayitl

I also didn’t like it, but isn’t that supposed to his whole bit ?

You are right.. Odysseus' greatest strength his is greatest weakness. I just thought it became a bit un-intentional comedy portrayed on screen :)

Christopher Nolan didn't turn Odysseus into a literal stuntman from the Jackass crew, but his gritty, deconstructed adaptation makes the Greek king make choices as baffling as a painful physical gag.

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The Cyclops wasn't even his biggest opp. It was his own decisions