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.Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸 on the "three-way Mexican standoff" between coders, PMs, and designers: "I'm seeing it in a bunch of the early leading edge companies in the Valley, they're circling around a job title loosely called 'builder,' or something like it. And basically the idea is that you had these separate jobs in the past of programmer, product manager, and designer." " I've been describing what's happening in the Valley companies as sort of this three-way Mexican standoff, where the programmers think that they don't need the product managers and the designers anymore 'cause they can have AI do that, and then each of the other two doesn't think they need the other two either." "I've been predicting they're all correct. The product manager can generate code and design now, and each of them can do the job of all three. The idea is the jobs change so now the job is builder." MTS

.Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸 on the "three-way Mexican standoff" between coders, PMs, and designers: "I'm seeing it in a bunch of the early leading edge companies in the Valley, they're circling around a job title loosely called 'builder,' or something like it. And basically the idea is that you had these separate jobs in the past of programmer, product manager, and designer." " I've been describing what's happening in the Valley companies as sort of this three-way Mexican standoff, where the programmers think that they don't need the product managers and the designers anymore 'cause they can have AI do that, and then each of the other two doesn't think they need the other two either." "I've been predicting they're all correct. The product manager can generate code and design now, and each of them can do the job of all three. The idea is the jobs change so now the job is builder." MTS

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“There’s a Mexican standoff happening between product manager, designer, and coder.” Marc Andreessen on how AI is reshaping core tech roles: “Every coder now believes they can also be a product manager and a designer, because they have AI. Every product manager thinks they can be a coder and a designer. And every designer knows they can be a product manager and a coder.” “People in each of those roles now know or believe that with AI, they don’t need the other two roles anymore.” Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸 on Lenny's Podcast with Lenny Rachitsky

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Marc Andreessen explains how AI has triggered a three-way standoff among Product-Managerss, engineers, and designers. Each thinks AI lets them do the other two jobs, and the irony is that all may soon find AI can manage them too.

Marc Andreessen explains how AI has triggered a three-way standoff among Product-Managerss, engineers, and designers. Each thinks AI lets them do the other two jobs, and the irony is that all may soon find AI can manage them too.

Rohan Paul

155,250 views • 4 months ago

Marc Andreessen: "The job is not actually the atomic unit of what happens in the workplace. The atomic unit of what happens in the workplace is the task." "A job is a bundle of tasks." “Everybody wants to talk about job loss, but really what you want to look at is task loss.” "As the tasks change enough, then that’s when the jobs change." "Ten years from now, is your job title coder, or coder-designer-product manager, or is it just, ‘I build products,’ or is it just, ‘I tell the AI how to build products.’ Whatever that job is called, it’s going to be incredibly important, because the people doing that job are going to be orchestrating the AI." Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸 on Lenny's Podcast with Lenny Rachitsky

Marc Andreessen: "The job is not actually the atomic unit of what happens in the workplace. The atomic unit of what happens in the workplace is the task." "A job is a bundle of tasks." “Everybody wants to talk about job loss, but really what you want to look at is task loss.” "As the tasks change enough, then that’s when the jobs change." "Ten years from now, is your job title coder, or coder-designer-product manager, or is it just, ‘I build products,’ or is it just, ‘I tell the AI how to build products.’ Whatever that job is called, it’s going to be incredibly important, because the people doing that job are going to be orchestrating the AI." Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸 on Lenny's Podcast with Lenny Rachitsky

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Marc Andreessen: "The job is not actually the atomic unit of what happens in the workplace. The atomic unit of what happens in the workplace is the task." "A job is a bundle of tasks." “Everybody wants to talk about job loss, but really what you want to look at is task loss.” "As the tasks change enough, then that’s when the jobs change." "Ten years from now, is your job title coder, or coder-designer-product manager, or is it just, ‘I build products,’ or is it just, ‘I tell the AI how to build products.’ Whatever that job is called, it’s going to be incredibly important, because the people doing that job are going to be orchestrating the AI."

Marc Andreessen: "The job is not actually the atomic unit of what happens in the workplace. The atomic unit of what happens in the workplace is the task." "A job is a bundle of tasks." “Everybody wants to talk about job loss, but really what you want to look at is task loss.” "As the tasks change enough, then that’s when the jobs change." "Ten years from now, is your job title coder, or coder-designer-product manager, or is it just, ‘I build products,’ or is it just, ‘I tell the AI how to build products.’ Whatever that job is called, it’s going to be incredibly important, because the people doing that job are going to be orchestrating the AI."

Lenny Rachitsky

46,682 views • 6 months ago

Marc Andreessen explains why AI coding won't replace programmers, but fundamentally change what they do. He argues that AI coding is just the latest abstraction layer, and the job of a programmer has always evolved with each one. Andreessen's key reframe of what's actually happening: "AI coding actually abstracts away the process of actually writing the scripting code... This is the next layer of the task redefinition under the job of programmer." He's clear that the best programmers aren't being replaced. They're already adapting, even if their day-to-day looks radically different now. Their job has shifted from writing code line by line to managing dozens of AI agents working in parallel. "The world's best programmers today will tell you, 'My job is I'm sitting there and I'm orchestrating 10 code bots running in parallel.' Their day job now is kind of arguing with the AI bots to try to get them to write the right code." But Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸 is adamant this doesn't make foundational knowledge obsolete — it makes it more important. "You need to still fully understand and learn how to write and understand code, because if it doesn't work or it's not doing what you expect, you need to be able to understand the results of what the AI is giving you." He draws a direct parallel: Just as someone writing scripting languages still needs to understand how a microprocessor works, someone orchestrating AI bots needs to understand the code those bots produce. "It's this upleveling of capability where you actually want the depth to go down and understand what the thing is actually doing, even if you're not spending your day doing that by hand." The result, in his view, is transformative: "Now programmers are going to be 10 times or 100 times or a thousand times more productive. And that is overwhelmingly a good thing." The pattern: New abstraction layer emerges → tasks change → the job gets redefined upward → productivity explodes It raises a question every programmer should be sitting with... Are you building the depth to evaluate what AI gives you, or just accepting the output?

Marc Andreessen explains why AI coding won't replace programmers, but fundamentally change what they do. He argues that AI coding is just the latest abstraction layer, and the job of a programmer has always evolved with each one. Andreessen's key reframe of what's actually happening: "AI coding actually abstracts away the process of actually writing the scripting code... This is the next layer of the task redefinition under the job of programmer." He's clear that the best programmers aren't being replaced. They're already adapting, even if their day-to-day looks radically different now. Their job has shifted from writing code line by line to managing dozens of AI agents working in parallel. "The world's best programmers today will tell you, 'My job is I'm sitting there and I'm orchestrating 10 code bots running in parallel.' Their day job now is kind of arguing with the AI bots to try to get them to write the right code." But Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸 is adamant this doesn't make foundational knowledge obsolete — it makes it more important. "You need to still fully understand and learn how to write and understand code, because if it doesn't work or it's not doing what you expect, you need to be able to understand the results of what the AI is giving you." He draws a direct parallel: Just as someone writing scripting languages still needs to understand how a microprocessor works, someone orchestrating AI bots needs to understand the code those bots produce. "It's this upleveling of capability where you actually want the depth to go down and understand what the thing is actually doing, even if you're not spending your day doing that by hand." The result, in his view, is transformative: "Now programmers are going to be 10 times or 100 times or a thousand times more productive. And that is overwhelmingly a good thing." The pattern: New abstraction layer emerges → tasks change → the job gets redefined upward → productivity explodes It raises a question every programmer should be sitting with... Are you building the depth to evaluate what AI gives you, or just accepting the output?

Big Brain AI

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.Joel Hellermark: If you could have a billion Deutsch-level intelligences, wouldn't that be a massive advantage for humanity? David Deutsch: I think having two might be an advantage. I mean, people, there's the law of comparative advantage says that the more different you are from other people, the more valuable you are economically. That suggests that if you have an exact clone of you, you're almost not at all more economically valuable than just one of you. You know, you'll be competing with each other for the same job. You wanted a unique job, your perfect dream job, and now it's the perfect dream job of a billion other AGIs, you know, in your conception. I don't think it can be like that. People are valuable because they are different. Everybody is unfathomably different from everyone else. That fact is not being harnessed enough and can be harnessed more.

.Joel Hellermark: If you could have a billion Deutsch-level intelligences, wouldn't that be a massive advantage for humanity? David Deutsch: I think having two might be an advantage. I mean, people, there's the law of comparative advantage says that the more different you are from other people, the more valuable you are economically. That suggests that if you have an exact clone of you, you're almost not at all more economically valuable than just one of you. You know, you'll be competing with each other for the same job. You wanted a unique job, your perfect dream job, and now it's the perfect dream job of a billion other AGIs, you know, in your conception. I don't think it can be like that. People are valuable because they are different. Everybody is unfathomably different from everyone else. That fact is not being harnessed enough and can be harnessed more.

Deutsch Explains

34,490 views • 10 months ago

Satya Nadella says LinkedIn merged four job titles, product manager, designer, front-end engineer and back-end engineer, into one: "I'll give you at LinkedIn, we used to have product managers, we had designers, we had front-end engineers, and then we had back-end engineers and so on." "So what we did is we sort of took those first four roles and combined them. In fact, increased scope and said, they're all full-stack builders." "So at the same time, as you can imagine, if we're to build an AI product today, there's a complete new workflow, right? It starts with evals, right?" "So basically, there's this eval to science, to infrastructure." "And so evals are done by these full-stack builders and what have you and product managers in the new form, the infrastructure is built by the systems engineers at the back-end because they support the science that supports the product." "So in some sense, there's a new loop and you have to structurally change." LinkedIn has already put this into hiring. Its Associate Product Manager program is finished, and the replacement, the Associate Product Builder track, teaches code, design and product management at the same time. Evals sit at the front of that workflow rather than the end, so writing them is now part of building the product instead of a check before shipping. - Satya Nadella (Satya Nadella), Chairman and CEO of Microsoft (Microsoft), with the All-In Podcast (The All-In Podcast) at USA House, Davos 2026.

Satya Nadella says LinkedIn merged four job titles, product manager, designer, front-end engineer and back-end engineer, into one: "I'll give you at LinkedIn, we used to have product managers, we had designers, we had front-end engineers, and then we had back-end engineers and so on." "So what we did is we sort of took those first four roles and combined them. In fact, increased scope and said, they're all full-stack builders." "So at the same time, as you can imagine, if we're to build an AI product today, there's a complete new workflow, right? It starts with evals, right?" "So basically, there's this eval to science, to infrastructure." "And so evals are done by these full-stack builders and what have you and product managers in the new form, the infrastructure is built by the systems engineers at the back-end because they support the science that supports the product." "So in some sense, there's a new loop and you have to structurally change." LinkedIn has already put this into hiring. Its Associate Product Manager program is finished, and the replacement, the Associate Product Builder track, teaches code, design and product management at the same time. Evals sit at the front of that workflow rather than the end, so writing them is now part of building the product instead of a check before shipping. - Satya Nadella (Satya Nadella), Chairman and CEO of Microsoft (Microsoft), with the All-In Podcast (The All-In Podcast) at USA House, Davos 2026.

Karl Mehta

516,002 views • 2 days ago

Brad Gerstner: “AI is becoming deeply unpopular in America” “Silicon Valley is losing the battle around AI.” “Doomers are now scaring people about jobs. They think all these job cuts that are going on in America are the result of AI.” “And number two, they're seeing their electric bills go up and they think that's also the result of AI.” “I've talked with a lot of Republican Senators and House members who say they are afraid to mention the words AI because their popularity ratings go down.” “We need to get on the other side of that, because that is a losing proposition for America.” “I think both of those are false narratives, but we need to get on the other side.” “In China, they're not gonna slow down.” “So if we do an own goal here and slow down because we think somehow that this is the path to greater economic growth, it's gonna be a real problem, both national security as well as economic security.”

Brad Gerstner: “AI is becoming deeply unpopular in America” “Silicon Valley is losing the battle around AI.” “Doomers are now scaring people about jobs. They think all these job cuts that are going on in America are the result of AI.” “And number two, they're seeing their electric bills go up and they think that's also the result of AI.” “I've talked with a lot of Republican Senators and House members who say they are afraid to mention the words AI because their popularity ratings go down.” “We need to get on the other side of that, because that is a losing proposition for America.” “I think both of those are false narratives, but we need to get on the other side.” “In China, they're not gonna slow down.” “So if we do an own goal here and slow down because we think somehow that this is the path to greater economic growth, it's gonna be a real problem, both national security as well as economic security.”

The All-In Podcast

2,074,815 views • 9 months ago

Marc Andreessen explains that America can win the future of manufacturing by building the advanced products of the future in highly automated factories that create well-paying, high-skilled “blue-collar-plus” jobs: “What you have is a large number of jobs, that are, call them ‘blue-collar-plus jobs’, and then also white-collar jobs, and all the associated service jobs around those that are building and maintaining that new kind of plant to build that new kind of thing.” “I think what you can do is you can leap forward on the nature of the product you’re building.” “By the way, if we don’t do that, all of those things are going to get made in China.” “What an amazing story it would be for America in the 21st century, which is we reindustrialize not to build the products of the past but to build the products of the future.” Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸

Marc Andreessen explains that America can win the future of manufacturing by building the advanced products of the future in highly automated factories that create well-paying, high-skilled “blue-collar-plus” jobs: “What you have is a large number of jobs, that are, call them ‘blue-collar-plus jobs’, and then also white-collar jobs, and all the associated service jobs around those that are building and maintaining that new kind of plant to build that new kind of thing.” “I think what you can do is you can leap forward on the nature of the product you’re building.” “By the way, if we don’t do that, all of those things are going to get made in China.” “What an amazing story it would be for America in the 21st century, which is we reindustrialize not to build the products of the past but to build the products of the future.” Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸

a16z

124,115 views • 8 months ago

Salazar: Remember, they're just starting in the job… Let's see how they do the next two years. And then we can judge them. But not because of one mistake that they put a reporter. Maybe they made a mistake and they put that. I mean, listen, those who do not have any sins, they can throw the first stone.

Salazar: Remember, they're just starting in the job… Let's see how they do the next two years. And then we can judge them. But not because of one mistake that they put a reporter. Maybe they made a mistake and they put that. I mean, listen, those who do not have any sins, they can throw the first stone.

Acyn

331,675 views • 1 year ago

"They have bought in and been okay with the hard and now the hard is not hard. I hope that will carry over for the rest of the season and the rest of their lives- that they can handle hard things. If that's what becomes of them, then it will be a good coaching job by all of us."

"They have bought in and been okay with the hard and now the hard is not hard. I hope that will carry over for the rest of the season and the rest of their lives- that they can handle hard things. If that's what becomes of them, then it will be a good coaching job by all of us."

The Winning Difference

24,377 views • 6 months ago

We are in a technological war with China, we really are. There are three countries that spend the most on AI. Number one is the US, number two is China, number three is the UAE. The UAE is friendly to the US, they work on American chips, they work with Nvidia. And so if we didn't give them chips and we starved them from technology, they would simply buy them from Huawei. The problem with that is that the chip is the queen bee. You set a chip out into the ecosphere, all the honeybees gather around it, they're the programmers, and they make the honey, they write the code, they create the value of the hive. Every time the queen bee's DNA is upgraded, all the other bees know how to write that code and make that honey. Do we want American honey out there or do we want Chinese honey?

We are in a technological war with China, we really are. There are three countries that spend the most on AI. Number one is the US, number two is China, number three is the UAE. The UAE is friendly to the US, they work on American chips, they work with Nvidia. And so if we didn't give them chips and we starved them from technology, they would simply buy them from Huawei. The problem with that is that the chip is the queen bee. You set a chip out into the ecosphere, all the honeybees gather around it, they're the programmers, and they make the honey, they write the code, they create the value of the hive. Every time the queen bee's DNA is upgraded, all the other bees know how to write that code and make that honey. Do we want American honey out there or do we want Chinese honey?

Kevin O'Leary aka Mr. Wonderful

24,193 views • 1 year ago

VARNEY: We've had 3 months now of real weakness in the job market. Is the economy moving into a new phrase where we're losing jobs? That would not be good politically for the president HASSETT: I don't think that's what we're seeing at all. One of the things we have to remember is that because we've been deporting folks, that put downward pressure on what the breakeven job number is.

VARNEY: We've had 3 months now of real weakness in the job market. Is the economy moving into a new phrase where we're losing jobs? That would not be good politically for the president HASSETT: I don't think that's what we're seeing at all. One of the things we have to remember is that because we've been deporting folks, that put downward pressure on what the breakeven job number is.

Aaron Rupar

108,437 views • 3 days ago

“And I've realized that with this person in my life that just was the right fit for me, you can have the two passions coexist, and they actually fuel each other.” and the way they cheer for each other 🤧

“And I've realized that with this person in my life that just was the right fit for me, you can have the two passions coexist, and they actually fuel each other.” and the way they cheer for each other 🤧

ver.

33,929 views • 1 month ago

Builder Profiles are now live on Frame. A new chapter for building in public. The world is changing fast. Solo builders can now ship world changing products faster than ever, and the best ones do not stop at one idea. They iterate, launch, and build across multiple products until they break out. Builder Profiles give verified builders a single identity and asset to build around. Product markets let every new product add to that profile and compound its value. Now you can back builders directly and capture the value of the full builder journey. Back builders, not just projects.

Frame

19,334 views • 5 months ago

Orlando Bravo: "The SaaSpocalypse is over... AI is an enormous, enormous tailwind for software companies... I was here last year at Super Return, and I think one of the LLM leaders made a comment that by this year, 50% of all white-collar jobs are going to be gone. And somebody in private equity made a comment that 50% of the people in this conference wouldn't have a job by next year. And look at the conference. You even had security outside. There's more people here than ever before... Our companies, 60% of the code that they write is machine-generated. But our number of developers, we have 20,000 of them, they're going up because now they can be a lot more productive."

Orlando Bravo: "The SaaSpocalypse is over... AI is an enormous, enormous tailwind for software companies... I was here last year at Super Return, and I think one of the LLM leaders made a comment that by this year, 50% of all white-collar jobs are going to be gone. And somebody in private equity made a comment that 50% of the people in this conference wouldn't have a job by next year. And look at the conference. You even had security outside. There's more people here than ever before... Our companies, 60% of the code that they write is machine-generated. But our number of developers, we have 20,000 of them, they're going up because now they can be a lot more productive."

Marcelo P. Lima

208,375 views • 2 months ago

.@SECWAR "Our job is to have the backs of warfighters. To ensure that they have everything they need so they’re never in a fair fight – but we can’t do that without you. What you are building here at Bath is essential to the Arsenal of Freedom.”

.@SECWAR "Our job is to have the backs of warfighters. To ensure that they have everything they need so they’re never in a fair fight – but we can’t do that without you. What you are building here at Bath is essential to the Arsenal of Freedom.”

DOW Rapid Response

13,583 views • 6 months ago

Chamath: Tesla and Google are best positioned to win AI because they are building the full-stack Jason: "The game here is who wins the AI prize five years from now?" "Chamath, who's your number one and number two?" Chamath: " Tesla's one and Google's two." "And the reason is because they are the closest to having that vertically integrated stack that I spoke about." TESLA 1⃣ "I think that Tesla has the best vision models." "Now with xAI, they'll have one of the best LLMs and reasoning models." "And they'll be able to eventually stick that on Dojo." "And then all of that will be in all of the physical AI that you will interact with in your daily life." "Whether it's a robot, or whether it's a car, or whether it's a Robotaxi. So that's number one." GOOGLE 2⃣ "And then number two, for many of the same reasons, I think Google." "Because you'll have the Gemini family of models, which just absolutely kick ass." "Like Veo 3, which we haven't really spoke about, is gonna destroy Hollywood in the next year, like Hollywood is done, I think." "But they're landing model after model." "They have the TPU, and the next generation TPU I think is exceptional." "They're baking quantum." "And then they have an entire funnel of billions of people that they can direct experiences to." "So Tesla one, Google two."

Chamath: Tesla and Google are best positioned to win AI because they are building the full-stack Jason: "The game here is who wins the AI prize five years from now?" "Chamath, who's your number one and number two?" Chamath: " Tesla's one and Google's two." "And the reason is because they are the closest to having that vertically integrated stack that I spoke about." TESLA 1⃣ "I think that Tesla has the best vision models." "Now with xAI, they'll have one of the best LLMs and reasoning models." "And they'll be able to eventually stick that on Dojo." "And then all of that will be in all of the physical AI that you will interact with in your daily life." "Whether it's a robot, or whether it's a car, or whether it's a Robotaxi. So that's number one." GOOGLE 2⃣ "And then number two, for many of the same reasons, I think Google." "Because you'll have the Gemini family of models, which just absolutely kick ass." "Like Veo 3, which we haven't really spoke about, is gonna destroy Hollywood in the next year, like Hollywood is done, I think." "But they're landing model after model." "They have the TPU, and the next generation TPU I think is exceptional." "They're baking quantum." "And then they have an entire funnel of billions of people that they can direct experiences to." "So Tesla one, Google two."

The All-In Podcast

7,919,032 views • 1 year ago

The three ways AI, particularly long-horizon agents, are changing the role of PMs: "First, product development is changing because the models and the capabilities are growing so fast that if you try to be very strict and stringent about describing exactly what you're going to build, its not going to work. It's very important for the PMs to be understanding of what these models are capable of and to be hands-on. The only thing PMs do now is articulate what the customer needs are at the highest level. But the actual product is built bottoms up by engineers, researchers, and product managers and designers all working together on the code itself. Second, the product manager and designer role are merging increasingly. When given the choice between an extra designer and extra engineer, they're saying, give us an extra engineer. And the other very important thing that's fundamentally different is non-deterministic software. Today, you could do X, Y happens. But if you do slight variation of X something completely different happens. That means someone has to evaluate whether or not what the software is producing is reasonable or not across various use cases. So the PM's job is to be very clear at a high level of what the user needs are, and then have a very clear sense of whether this product is good to ship or not by evaluating it."

The three ways AI, particularly long-horizon agents, are changing the role of PMs: "First, product development is changing because the models and the capabilities are growing so fast that if you try to be very strict and stringent about describing exactly what you're going to build, its not going to work. It's very important for the PMs to be understanding of what these models are capable of and to be hands-on. The only thing PMs do now is articulate what the customer needs are at the highest level. But the actual product is built bottoms up by engineers, researchers, and product managers and designers all working together on the code itself. Second, the product manager and designer role are merging increasingly. When given the choice between an extra designer and extra engineer, they're saying, give us an extra engineer. And the other very important thing that's fundamentally different is non-deterministic software. Today, you could do X, Y happens. But if you do slight variation of X something completely different happens. That means someone has to evaluate whether or not what the software is producing is reasonable or not across various use cases. So the PM's job is to be very clear at a high level of what the user needs are, and then have a very clear sense of whether this product is good to ship or not by evaluating it."

Patrick OShaughnessy

41,781 views • 6 months ago